WestCanMan

He is a certain way because he was raised a certain way. Justification to kill is a big part of islamic culture. There are 30x as many white, non-muslims. 30x as many incels. How many of these homocidal rampages? It can't be justified. Justified is a horrible word. Muslim terrorist attacks killed random Canadians. He killed random muslims. As a country we don't consider that justifiable, but you have to be able to understand that he'd have better things to do with his life than kill a group of people that he had no reason to dislike. If you couldn't figure this out for yourself that's a joke, but believe it or not there's this: Humans do things for reasons. Sometimes their reason is their religion, sometimes it is because they are human. If a person is a Christian and they attack someone just to steal something that isn't 'Christian". If they get attacked and they fight back that's human. You can call them failures if you want, but you can't say that their religion told them to do it. If a group of muslims goes off to kill people to force their religion on them, take slaves, that's part of their religion. This is just you playing stupid again. This doesn't take exceptional intelligence to be understood. 1) If people pick and choose something that's not part of their religion, that's individual choice. It doesn't reflect on their religion. 2) If people do exactly what their religion tells them, then their choice is a reflection of their religious ideals. The number of people forced into slavery by Christians is small compared to islam. It was Christian nations which abolished slavery - Britain and the US led that charge. This takes intelligence to understand. 1A) If the leader of a group says do something, and his followers do it, then their actions reflect on the group. 1B) If the leader of a group says don't do something, and his followers do it anyways, then their actions don't reflect on the group. Especially when there are very real, and commonly enforced punishments for those things. Are you a child-killing pedophile just because Clifford Olson was? He's Canadian too right? No. If you pay your taxes, like the Cdn gov't tells you to, is your action reflective of being a Canadian? Yes. Terrorism is part of islam. Moderate Muslims are part of a religion that has always used terrorism to achieve their goals. Mohammed was a violent bigot and he was kicked out of Mecca. He committed a genocide and forced women and children into rape-slavery to get back into Mecca. People who love mohammed are conditioned to accept those behaviours, even if they pretend not to. That 'attack' was just not unprovoked. It was done to make people stop doing something illegal and immoral. That doesn't make it justified, but don't compare it to people who are killing just to spread religion.

That was a muslim incel from a muslim family dude. He was also racist towards white people. You're taking a kid from a muslim family and lumping him in with young white men, when that young muslim was killing people based on his racism against whites. That's idiotic. Makes perfect libsense, but this isn't a liberal echo chamber. You could just as easily characterize him as Jewish or Chinese. If I go riot tomorrow it's not because of my blackness. I'm not black. We all have some really distant ancestors who were black though, so by your loose standards I guess I could. The truck attack was a muslim, Bisonnette was just a retaliation. If there were no muslim terrorist attacks here there would be no Bisonette attack. To say he was a Trump fan is really sleazy on your part. We both know that all muslim terrorists in Canada are Trudeau supporters, what does that mean to you? It's a complex issue, I doubt you'll understand, but when Christians act according to Christ's intentions they're Christians. When they're defending themselves they're human. If they do non-Christian things they're not really Christians. When muslims act according to mohammed's intentions they're muslims. When they're defending themselves they're human. If they do non-muslim things they're not muslims. Christ didn't force women and children into rape-slavery. Mohammed did. Christ didn't commit any genocides. Mohammed did. When muslims force people into slavery or commit genocide to spread their religion they're being muslims. When people accept mohammed as their prophet they're accepting his slavery and genocide as divinely-inspired, and legal. Accepting it as good. When they use extreme violence to force non-muslims to live in fear they're emulating mohammed. That makes their actions islamic in nature. To say that "incels represent the white race" in some way is just stupid. Anyone who makes that connection is just blatantly stupid. Moronic. White nationalists in this country have done what? Where in this country can you go where there is security in place to protect people from 'white nationalists'? What's the annual defence budget to protect Canadians from white nationalists? Is it $0.00?

Thanks eyeball. You finally said something intelligent. Note that Eyeball also made some sandbox insults that we won't relay here in this message, due to the vulgar and childish content.

Are you trying to prove that you don't know much about Canadian history? You're really only aware of one muslim terrorist attack in Canada, and you couldn't Google it? Do you really have no idea why we go through airport security, or why they have cement barricades protecting our Christmas markets? You never heard of a truck attack in Toronto? You never heard of Cpl Cirillo and the attack on the Parliament? You never heard of the car attack on Cdn soldiers in Mtl? You never heard of the gang of 18 in Toronto? You think that the 'incel', from a muslim family, who killed all those white people and told the darker people that their melanin made them safe was doing it because of his own whiteness? Where have you been the last 20 years? Why do you post on a political forum if you have absolutely no fucking clue what's going on? What do south Asians have to do with this? Are you including Sikhs, Hindus and Buddhists as muslims? Do you know how many Hindus were killed by religiously-bigoted muslims through the centuries, to spread islam by the sword? Some estimates are as high as 100 million. That's a lot of severed heads. As recently as the '40s that religious zeal for bigotry-killings hit the 10M mark when Pakistan separated. That's more than the entire population of Ontario. You're the one conflating issues Boges. No one said that 'all muslims are terrorists'. But, simply put, a lot of muslims are terrorists, and a large percentage of muslims support terrorism. It's a fundamental part of islam. Not all Christians sing in the choir, but 'the choir' is a part of Christianity. Guess how many terrorists they had in the gang of 18? I'll tell you, to save you the embarrassment, it was 18. Do you think that you or anyone you know could find 18 people to get in on a terrorist attack? By the time that you tried to recruit 3 people, don't you think you'd be ratted out? How the fuck can you get to 18 before someone goes to the police and says "I know these guys who have a really bad idea"? FYI, the more people you bring in from terrorist hotspots, the more terrorists and terrorist supporters you bring in. That's math. Statistics. Probabilities. Certainties. I wouldn't say that muslims can't immigrate here, but I'd say that mass-immigration from places where there are so many terrorists that they overthrew the government is stupid. I'd also say that it should have been priority for Canada to help Christians and Yazidis get out of Syria, when they were facing an actual genocide (denied by our PM), not just making a grand show of importing islam. Muslims in Syria weren't in the same kind of danger. They just wanted out because their own people were destroying the country. That's as dumb as it gets.

I'm not backpedaling on anything. Every single thing that I said is 100% true and you know that, but because of your own lack of integrity it's normal for you to make ridiculous accusations once you're backed into a corner. The fact stands, that by your standards I can edit the crap out of your posts to completely change the meaning of them and it's ok. I won't be doing that with Argus or Rue or anyone else here because they've never advocated for media dishonesty. Only you protect the media's right to lie, and if it's ok for CTV to lie then for certain it's ok for the rest of us. I was wrong about you eyeball. I thought that you were immoral, but it turns out that you're amoral. Makes sense, in light of everything else.

Almost none. Muslims are 1% of the population and they've done lots of terrorist attacks. When we go through airport security that's not because of Christians or white people or Buddhists. When they put cement barricades around Christmas markets s that trucks can get in to kill people that's not because of black people or Asians or Hindus. Where do you see the government taking direct action to stop white people from doing mass killings?When was the last time you thought "If we don't put security here them crackers will just massacre people!" Where is that security in place Boges? You know all this. Don't act like it's news.

The reason why there's "a huge issue of police violence and racism in America" is because people like these will never be allowed to show their faces on CNN, MSNBC, CTV or CBC. If they allow a POC to address these topics, in this manner, on those stations, at best you'll get someone far less eloquent than these guys who never really gets a chance to speak, and they'll inevitably be shouted down by 'progressives' for being an "Uncle Tom". And that's on-camera. Off-camera people like this are called 'porch niggas' by the oh-so-righteous progressives. It really seems to me as though the people who just pay lip service to black people, but really want to harm them, are the Dems/Libs. 1) Maybe there's a really good reason why the longest-serving Senator ever for the Dems was a former Grand-Dragon of the KKK. 2) 38% of the "right to choose" deaths (abortions) are black. 86% are minorities. 14% are white. https://www.guttmacher.org/infographic/2017/abortion-rates-race-and-ethnicity Dems pimp abortion like the greatest thing since sliced bread. 3) Dems advocate for the removal of police, defunding the police, etc. NYC homicides peaked at 2,245 before Mayor Dinkins era, when the murders finally started declining.They went down to 1,561 in his 4 years, a 30% decrease. In 8 years under Giuliani they went from 1177 down to 587, another 50% decline. https://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/race-crime-and-police-closer-look-7832.html "Too many cops. Cops are bad." - BLM and the Dems.

Italians and Irish aren't really comparable to muslims. How many Italians or Irish have committed terrorist attacks in Canada?

This was the top item that came up in my Google search when I typed in Hannah Fizer: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fatal-shooting-missouri-woman-deputy-traffic-stop-sparks-protest-leaves-n1231646 Google.... BLAM! 244,000 results in .47 seconds. Done.

See, all I did there was selectively choose your own words, in their correct order, from your post, that fit my narrative, and neglected to use the parts of your post that didn't fit my narrative. That's like blaring out a headline where CTV uses the parts of a story that fit their narrative, and neglect the parts of a story that don't fit their narrative. Or maybe it was just sloppy editing. The onus is on you to PROVE that it was intentionally. You need a whistleblower in my office, or my post stands as an accurate reflection of your post. See how that works? Now that you've made it clear that you're ok with CTV's editorial standards it's so much easier replying to your posts.

I was in the military, I worked with people from Timmins and other places like that. Some from north Ont were even ESL people who never spoke english at all til they joined up. I don't know anyone who talks like that. In southern Manitoba and Sask I've known a few people to talk 'a bit' like the people in the Fargo movie. People who say warshed instead of washed, etc. That's about it.

Those aren't 'stereotypical Canadians', they're like caricatures. Not the same thing.

Thanks. I just used my 'CTV-level' editorial skills to quote your post. It's not an exact replica of your initial post but it's close enough to meet your standards, right? Good to know.

No, I've seen commercials and it looked silly. Is it on Netflix?

2020 road to power: 1) Claim victim status, show fear and rage 2) imply a direct correlation between victim status and moral superiority, 3) use the moral superiority to vilify people so that their factual talking points are pre-emptively dismissed, 4) commit rioting, arson, looting and murder, to show rage 5) wait for Barack Obama's stamp of approval for your righteous anger 6) commit rioting, arson, looting and murder, to show rage 7) wait for Michelle Obama's stamp of approval for your righteous anger, 8) commit rioting, arson, looting and murder, to show rage. CNN and CTV won't show balanced and fair coverage of these events. It's part of their liberal agenda to deflect criticism from rioters, murderers and looters, plus rioting and killing makes for great ratings if you're in the news media biz. All of that anger goes back to the first step, of proving your victim status. Here's the official statistic on victimhood via police killings, by race, for the US: https://www.statista.com/statistics/585152/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-race/ Oblama is a racist farce (that stands for [Only] Black Lives Matter)

I just googled CTV National News for June 13th and this came up: https://www.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1970845 You have to watch 3 thirty-second commercials every time you go into their vault and I'm not here to make money for CTV so I won't be watching any more of their videos, but the headline segment here is a good example of how intentionally ignorant & inflammatory their news coverage is. "Killed after falling asleep at a drive-thru" is their entire opening comment about the Brooks shooting at the beginning of this newscast. Then they go a voiceover of "We, as a country, can't breeeaathe anymore" while they're showing some footage, and then there's an angry black man jabbing his finger at the camera saying "Black lives matter! They alwaayys matter!", as if that's supposed to be news. They didn't start with "killed after punching a cop, stealing his taser, and shooting it at the officer". Not even "Killed after passing out drunk at a drive thru and getting into an altercation with police", they just open with their blatantly misleading & inflammatory quote. CTV is pure filth. You can mange mange mange all you want. It will tickle your hate bone and get you all fired up to go chase some windmills. If you want to find the quote I mentioned earlier, you can wade through their feces and watch their commercials, the fact is that it's it's there. Your comment above is just stupid. CTV carefully phrases their opening monologue, and it is never a casual mistake that it is the exact way that it is. They neglected to mention all of the key elements of the event, and their coverage paints a grossly misleading picture of what happened. If that's good enough from one's perspective, that explains why so many people have such a limited/backwards understanding of most news events.

That's probably as close to 100% accurate as you can get. Trump is the most hated man in the world by alt-left media, and I don't know if it's his foul mouth that's to blame or if the sleazy leftists of the world fear him, but there's no good reason for the level of lying and stupidity that comes out of the mouths of leftists. It needs to be understood that the vast majority of conservatives aren't racist, in fact I'd say that there are far less conservative racists than there are dem/lib racists, but I'll speak for myself, I really do hate liberals now. I have an actual hatred for anyone dumb enough to support Trudeau or the Pelosi/AOC/Hillary/CNN/CTV gang. I have literally no respect whatsoever for 99% of people who consider themselves liberals. Seems like such a small list for the depth of the hatred I have for that piece of crap. Bolton doesn't understand that when Trump is the POTUS, Trump gets the final say in important matters of state. Bolton might feel like he's the expert on matters of foreign affairs, but Bolton's expertise is all about "how other people did things". Trump doesn't do things like Obama, or GWB, or BClinton. He does things like Trump. When one of Trump's lines is crossed, he sends shiny toys out to destroy things. The world should understand that by now. His lines are sensible. Don't kill Americans. Don't gas people. Go on your merry way. Bolton is a woman scorned. Boo hoo. He's not like Trudeau, who will bend himself into a pretzel so as not to offend anyone who isn't a nameless Canadian. Trump moves in straight lines. It's difficult for people who are used to schmoozers. If Trudeau was elected POTUS in 2016 islamic state would be bigger than ever and they'd have a sister-state in Africa just as large, but they'd have an earful of positive encouragement to change their ways. I just don't care about Bolton. I'd rather have a strong leader than an idiot and a wussy. The things that Trump does make sense. They're not calculated to make him look good at the country's expense. They're to move the US forward. That's what's supposed to happen when you're leading a country. During covid Trump set up a framework for the Governors to work within, and to have a chance at success. For example, banning travel from China, Italy etc helped. It was a positive. He didn't tell people not to wear masks. That's a net neutral position. He put the army to work building hospitals. He actually found a way to get masks to Americans. He enacted the wartime production act or whatever it's called. He went after common sense solutions, like the trials of off-patent anti-virals. He didn't just jump to the idiotic conclusion that "WE ARE ALL SCREWED UNTIL WE PAY HUGE MONEY FOR A VACCINE!" He didn't open the country as wide as possible for covid to get in, tell people not to wear masks, give all of our masks to China, and then hide in his fucking basement for months. Trump rocked covid compared to Trudeau. Trudeau just followed the WHO's sinister instructions like a puppy, in hopes of winning the UN's shiny bauble, and he hid in his basement because he knew how bad his own directives were. Hundreds of thousands of people were flying in from covid hotspots every day, waltzing through our jam-packed airports, all while Canadians were told not to wear masks. It's atrocious. It's not Trump's fault that people like Nancy Pelosi and Bill DeBlasio were telling people to do the exact wrong things well after Trump had already started fighting covid. It's not Trump's fault that governor cuomo wanted sick people to go back into care homes instead of covid treatment centers that were set up by the federal government. Trump isn't an actual dictator. There's one dictator in North America. There's one leader who bought the state-owned and independent media, and makes ridiculous and catastrophic decisions which either go unquestioned by the media, or backed by the media. Trump handled the Floyd riots like a leader. He wasn't like Obama, just egging the rioters and cop-killers on for 3 years and thumbing his nose at bankrupted store-owners and burning communities. His job was to protect Americans and he did that exact job with little regard for anything else. Boo hoo rioters. You don't get free TVs at someone else's expense just because something happened that you don't like. Funny that Cuomo set up the NYC prisons to just let all the rioters back on the street to loot and pillage again, while citizens and cops were getting killed. You gotta look at the view from 20,000 feet Rue. The Dems and Liberals are not our friends. Idiots who blindly follow CTV and CNN are not our friends. You know how bad it is to defund police and put the angriest, dumbest Americans into that role with no training. You know that appeasement in the face of violence and destruction is the absolute wrong answer. God bless Donald Trump.

That one is probably worth having video of. I’ll try and dig it up later today.

When he turns to shoot, the officers shoot. That's it. The officers guns don't go off in the millisecond that it takes for Brooks to fire. They make the decision to fire when the taser comes around. If they shot Brooks 3 seconds later there would be no point to it, I agree. FYI, some tasers do have two shots in them, for if the first shot misses.

You are a liar, so yes, it's entirely civil. Do you want me to just ignore the elephant in the room? Do you normally try to have 'civil' conversations with people where you tell blatant lies to their face?

In the opening monolgue that I saw, when they aired their big segment on racism against minorities by police, they carefully neglected to mention the taser. You, Icini, moonbox and other also think that's the way to go.

How the f can you not know you're lying? Brooks turned and shot a taser at the officers. f someone shot a taser at you from 10 feet away you wouldn't neglect to mention it. You're basically just a liar moonbox.

Police didn't close ranks to protect Chauvin at all. Police forces from all over the US announced their disapproval, as was appropriate. The Brooks incident is entirely different though. Officers should be closing ranks to protect the officers involved because the DA in Atlanta was telling lies about the officers at the press conference. That's insane. "Brooks was slightly over the limit, and jovial." It's nice to know that in Atlanta I can punch a cop in the face, shoot a taser at them and still be considered 'jovial'. The officers in the Brooks shooting were polite, patient and professional with him the entire time. They were never rude or forceful. They gave Brooks every opportunity to go along with his due process in a safe and unthreatening manner. It's Brooks who was found passed out drunk at the wheel and then blew .108 - way over the legal limit anywhere. He lied to the police multiple times. Police needed to take him in for blood tests so that they could be certain of a DUI charge. They also needed to find out if there were also drugs in his system, which could make him even more wasted than just the .108 BA. It was Brooks who wigged out, punched a cop, stole a taser and shot it at the officers. Under Georgia law, firing a taser at someone is the same as firing a gun at them in the eyes of the law. A taser is treated as a firearm. Brooks' ignorance of the law is no excuse. The DA's feigned ignorance is just another of his many lies. Just two weeks earlier this same DA charged an Atlanta officer with aggravated assault for merely POINTING a taser at someone's chest, and then the DA pontificated to the world that a taser 'is a deadly weapon'. "The problem" is that cops have a hard job, and the media and the powers that be are currently campaigning to protect the 'rights' of individuals to resist arrest and attack police. They should be taking every opportunity to spread the message that obeying lawful commands and allowing due process to take it's course is the only way to handle these situations. Police and black men will continue to play this deadly game as long as those people keep saying that resisting is ok, the cops were to blame for everything bad that happened. These incidents will keep occurring, riots, looting and arson will ensue. Cops will be murdered in the streets. Rinse, repeat. The media and the Barack Obamas of the world are to blame for a lot of these deaths.

No you haven't. That's a lie. You've seen footage of him being shot when he fired a taser at police. Unless you're willing to let someone shoot you in face with a taser you're in no position to say that the police should let someone do that to them.

This is all in the wrong thread. There's a Brooks thread in the US forum.