WestCanMan

Get a life, User. Stop making generic accusations that you can't back up. There are NO covid claims that I made which I ran away from, liar. 1) The covid vax didn't work, period, and it killed and severely injured a lot of people, but TBH, that's not even the standard that necessarily had to be reached for me to make the claim that vax fascism was unwarranted. In order for vax-fascism to be deemed to have been worth it, and rise to the level of "the end justifies the means" (look at leftists aspiring to Machiavellian standards which they pretend to abhor), the covid vax would have had to have worked extremely well. Covid deaths went up by 30%, that's obviously not "worked very well". Do you think that the covid jabs worked very well? Were we looking for a massive increase in hospitalizations and a 30% increase in deaths? Tell me User... Make your f'ing point. Say something challenging and specific, not generic, snotty and vague. 2) The example from India was not "debunked", it was "ignored". The success was explained away by the "correlation isn't causation" argument, but now even the NiH says that ivermectin works, so the causation is now proven. 3) Tell me now whether or not you think that the NiH said that ivermectin works against covid... 4) Tell me now, at what stage of the covid saga did the NiH say that ivermectin was shown to have been working against covid...?

I didn't accuse you of saying anything. I simply stated a couple of facts. We can't force people, and people have 100% solid reasons for not trusting Health Canada. People didn't stop trusting Health Canada because they're stupid, people stopped trusting Health Canada because they caught our medical professionals lying to them. Facts, facts and more facts. Yes, I still personally believe i the measles vaccine, but I also don't trust our medical professionals at all. Never a singe one. Not a single thing that I said about this was proven false. Do you doubt the massive increase in infections? The 30% increase in deaths? That 85.7% of our covid deaths in 2022 were occurring among the multi-vaxed? Tell me what you think is wrong, and I will put you squarely in your f'ing place. Understand what I'm saying here: people in Canada have extremely good reasons for not trusting our medical experts. That is a sad fact that cannot be challenged. It is carved in stone. Intelligent, open-minded people understand that implicitly. Whether or not you understand that is simply a measure of your mental capacity. Be the stone wall if you want. Thanks for putting out old, debunked, anti-ivermectin propaganda. Even the NiH is finally acknowledging that ivermectin actually works against covid. It is in the article I posted earlier. Stop pretending to not know that. FYI the success against covid in Uttar Pradesh happened before 2% of the population was vaccinated, and there weren't just ivermectin kits for 5M people. https://rescue.substack.com/p/the-media-is-silent-but-the-data A report from the WHO confirmed the strategy: Government teams moved across 97,941 villages in seventy-five districts. The state government deployed 141,610 teams and 21,242 supervisors to ensure total rural area coverage. Are you saying that 141,600 teams only gave out 5M kits? So each entire team only gave out 50 kits? That's like a whole team of people being deployed only to give kits to all of the people in one townhome complex. How long did they work for, according to your "expert"? Just until the first coffee break of one day? Buddy, the whole strategy of the covid game was to "lie about everything covid-related, and if you couldn't lie about it then just don't talk about it". Do you think that the CBC, BBC, NYT, WashPo, FB, Twitter, Google, YouTube, AP Reuters were busy lying about covid 24/7, and kicking people off their platforms for talking about the BSL4 lab, but the LATimes was busy telling the truth? https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9135450/ That's the NiH dude. NiH. Here are their words. You tell me what you think these words mean: In the last decade, several in-vitro studies have shown its [ivermectin's] anti-viral activity against a broad range of viruses. At the beginning of the COVID pandemic, ivermectin was tested in vitro against SARS-CoV-2 and showed a highly significant reduction (99.8%) in viral RNA after 48 hours [1], but it was criticized that this was achieved by using a much higher dose in comparison to the standard dose in human use [2]. However, its anti-COVID activity in real-life in patients who were treated with standard dose of 3 days of ivermectin showed the significant reduction in culture viability in the ivermectin group compared to placebo [3]. In addition, ivermectin has anti-inflammatory properties based on in-vitro and in animal model studies. An extensive review of the potential mechanisms of action for ivermectin against COVID-19 was recently published [4]. You tell me how that NiH article says that ivermectin doesn't really do anything. Now go back and read this part again: At the beginning of the COVID pandemic, ivermectin was tested in vitro against SARS-CoV-2 and showed a highly significant reduction (99.8%) in viral RNA after 48 hours Ivermectin was an off-patent drug that had been used for decades and was known to be safe. FYI, because ivermectin was an off-patent drug, that means that anyone and their dog who was capable of making ivermectin was allowed to make it without paying anyone even one cent in royalties. But there was an all-out war against ivermectin in our media, and by our government and our medical community. Honestly, look at that NiH article and tell me all about ivermectin not working again.

Dude: you can't force people to take vaccines. Even ones that work as advertised. All that we can do is try to reason with people who have been lied to by Health Canada. You have to acknowledge that it's hard to sell someone on a measles vaccine from Pfizer after Pfizer just threw down that covid vax bullshit. If you believe Dr Fauci and you believe that the covid vaccinations were a success here, that's just you ignoring the cold, hard facts that have been presented to you. Utter Pradesh had success fighting covid with ivermectin. Covid deaths dropped dramatically there compared to other Indian provinces. The only case that could be made against that success was "correlation isn't causation". Canada had no success fighting covid with the jabs. Our covid deaths went up dramatically, and the vast majority of our covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed. That's not "westcanman just saying that", it's "westcanman passing along Health Canada's own stats to you in a way that you would rather not acknowledge". The only defence of the vaccines' failures was "infections went up drastically". Well guess what? Forcing people to vax was only justified by pretending that they slowed the spread. So whether you want to acknowledge that the jabs failed: because more people died, or they failed because so many more people got infected, either way you look at it, the jabs ABSOLUTELY FAILED because both things actually happened. Math says that, and math trumps closed-door trial data. After the scientists try their theories out on the general public, at scale, math determines the champion. Ivermectin won. Just get the F over it, dude. The vaccines were forced on us all because they were supposed to bring down covid deaths and they went up by 30% in 2022. Full stop. They were forced on us to do something that they simply DID NOT DO. Health Canada's stats said that in no uncertain terms, but CBC never passed along the info. So now that we're done done pretending that there were two types of people "the vaxed and the unvaxed", we can't do that anymore? Nice try. There are actually two types of people: 1) people who acknowledge the vax scam, and 2) cultists. Here's the deal, dude: the people who push the real vaccines also lied to us about the covid vaccines. Intelligent, open-minded people understand that implicitly. It's not easy to get people to take "medicine" from Pfizer, for very good reason. That is what we are dealing with. Did you not read the NiH article I posted that acknowledges that: ivermectin isn't just an anti-parasitic medicine anymore, as the MSM would have you believe it has been a successful anti-viral medication for decades ivermectin also had very real success against covid in clinical trials FYI number 2 there provides the "causation" effect that was somehow missed when ivermectin usage somehow correlated with massive covid-fighting success in Uttar Pradesh https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-miracle-not-heard-around-the Uttar Pradesh's ivermectin campaign enjoyed the greatest success of any covid-fighting technique anywhere in the world. Period.

Left4rds are such pathetic, stupid little clowns, it's really sad that they outnumber intelligent Canadians by enough to carry the vote. These guys can't debate facts on any topics here, all they can do is click the down-arrow and tell a few lies. Just disgusting.

Lying loser. He voted against a bloated omnibus bill packed with gov't overspending. The LPOC killed our energy sector and then started spending way more money, because that's just how f'ing stupid they are. Only a total ret4rd (like you) would think that's a good idea.

Maybe screaming at clouds, and cheering for assassinations, genocides and assassination attempts is therapeutic.

CBC: "If you choose a Trudeau-clone to run the Conservative Party then we will tell our cultists to vote for him." No thanks. CBC, eyeball, herbie and all the other cultists can F right off. We can either elect Poilievre or let the country continue to go to hell based on the CBC's cultist gospel, I couldn't care less anymore. We really don't deserve any better if it comes down to that.

Poilievre, period. It's disrespectful for anyone to challenge him.

@User Bro, it's 2025 and ivermectin's effectiveness at fighting covid is still being lied about in the mainstream. Just think about the fact that there was a dirt-cheap and perfectly safe tool for fighting covid, something that we could have dosed the whole planet with for maybe $100M, and instead we gave Pfizer and Moderna untold billions of dollars for a dangerous pseudovax that failed (when deaths go up sharply and infections and hospitalizations spike after we "vaccinate" 85% of the population, I call that vaccination campaign a failure) The data came out in Uttar Pradesh on a massive scale, they have 5 times the population of our country there, and it was debunked by a snotty "correlation is not causation" retort plus some more fake studies that were published in popular medical journals and trumpeted on our "trusted news initiative" networks. Dr Kory is still being maligned and slandered right now on Wiki, User. Today. YEARS after we knew that ivermectin works. By contrast, here's what wiki says about Fauci in their opening paragraph: Anthony Stephen Fauci ForMemRS (/ˈfaʊtʃi/ FOW-chee;[5] born December 24, 1940) is an American physician-scientist and immunologist who served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) from 1984 to 2022, and the chief medical advisor to the president from 2021 to 2022.[6] Fauci was one of the world's most frequently cited scientists across all scientific journals from 1983 to 2002.[7][8] In 2008, President George W. Bush awarded him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the highest civilian award in the United States, for his work on the AIDS relief program PEPFAR.[9] Where's the mention of Fauci's little "funded the creation of the covid virus and then blamed a f'ing pangolin" faux pas? Kory fought hard for mankind and he's still being maligned, Fauci served Pfizer like a slavish dog and sold us all out, and he's "a tireless worker and champion" 🤮. You're light years on the wrong side of history now.

Did what? Did Republican politicians turn a blind eye to the rioting? Did Republican politicians do their best to justify the rioting? Did Republican politicians do their best to incite more rioting? Did Fox News call the rioting "mostly peaceful protests"? Did Republican politicians turn a blind eye to any assaults? Did Republican politicians turn a blind eye to any murders of civilians or police officers? Did Republican politicians or Fox News waste any time at all telling people to cease and desist? Did Republican politicians and Fox News create false narratives and release doctored videos to incite more riots? Just wtf are you embarrassed about? Over the past 40 years Republicans rioted for a grand total of 3 hours. Stop comparing the GOP's paltry level of "riot shame" to the level of shame that the Dems absolutely reek of. It's like comparing losing a Bic lighter in the park to the Exxon Valdez spill. Actually, it's worse than that. Only a Michael Hardner-style "conservative" would try to pretend that there is any kind of parallel there.

When you take into account all the expenses involved in building the energy sources, and the massive batteries needed to make their energy somewhat more practical (batteries don't store enough energy at that scale to last for weeks at a time, and solar is weak all winter long), and the environmental costs to build them, and the petroleum used to build them, and the petroleum products required to run them, and their extreme environmental impact at the end of their service life, and the fact that solar ONLY creates energy when energy is in low demand here, just makes them more of a hobby than a real-life solution. Energy is a need, not a luxury. Affordable energy is a need, not a luxury. You can't build an economy on expensive, ineffective energy sources. Canada can't afford to continue to live at the standard of life that we previously enjoyed while destroying our energy sector. It's like quitting your day job and just getting a Sunday morning paper route but still expecting to afford all the same things you did while you were working. Herbie's next quote: "I quit my day job and then bought a house using only the money that I earned delivering newspapers on Sunday morning! Honest injun!"

If you think something I said was incorrect then be man enough to say it exflyer, you gutless weasel.

You're wrong about so much of that, and I don't know why you're so adamant about it all. 1) the net effect of the measles vax on a population is "a magic shield". The effect of that vax on individuals is still "pretty damn close" to being a magic shield 2) There are 2 types of vaccines: actual vaccines and cultist vaccines 3) The credibility of the medical profession was absolutely destroyed by the covid farce. That's what lying does: it destroys one's credibility. You could argue that some of those people weren't "lying", because they were just really stupid and had less of an understanding of epidemiology than a passing grade 12 biology student, but that still destroys their credibility. The whole covid/vaccine farce was just a web of lies from the beginning, and you can't refute a single lie I pointed to. High-profile, well-respected doctors called out those lies. They were excoriated, censured, and threatened with losing their licenses, but they still stood firm. Dr Kory is still being lied about to this day, even right on wiki: Pierre Kory is an American critical care physician who gained attention during the COVID-19 pandemic for advocating widespread off-label use of ineffective drug treatments for COVID-19, as president and co-founder of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC).[1][2] Kory testified twice to the U.S. Senate regarding COVID-19. During his testimony in December 2020, Kory erroneously claimed that the antiparasitic medication ivermectin was a "wonder drug" with "miraculous effectiveness" against COVID-19.[3][4] That's just 100% wrong: It's not just "antiparasitic". Initially, yes, but https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9135450/: "In the last decade, several in-vitro studies have shown its anti-viral activity against a broad range of viruses." It wasn't an erroneous claim. From the same article: However, its anti-COVID activity in real-life in patients who were treated with standard dose of 3 days of ivermectin showed the significant reduction in culture viability in the ivermectin group compared to placebo [3]. In addition, ivermectin has anti-inflammatory properties based on in-vitro and in animal model studies. An extensive review of the potential mechanisms of action for ivermectin against COVID-19 was recently published [4]. Even in 2025, lies about the covid jab and ivermectin are still the norm, as evidenced by wiki's lies. There you have it

1) Dude, you need to take a Valium. Measles is deadly for kids under 2, and potentially really bad for kids from 2-5. Understanding that means, to the average person, that kids should be vaccinated for it. 2) The "pretty much" comment was that "the measles vaccine pretty much is a magic shield". You said it was not a magic shield, but in truth, it is. If there are 4 people in your family who are all vaccinated and you have a 12-month old baby, the "97% chance of not carrying the infection home to the baby" feels pretty damned good. By contrast, if you have 4 people in your family and they all got 4 covid jabs, the chances of them getting sick with covid didn't change. Canada had several times as many infections in 2022 as the other years, and they weren't all among the unvaxed, judging by the fact that over 85% of the covid deaths came from the multi-vaxed. 3) The science you're referring to was literally all lies, dude. the first time Fauci came on your TV to say "pangolin", that was a massive f'ing lie which is 100% contrary to the whole concept of science. If you knew in that moment how much of a lie that was then you never would have listened to another word he said. All of Fauci's claims, predictions and guarantees were all false when he said them. All of them. Saying that "the vaccines will all be safe and effective" was a lie: science never would have predicted that could happen in 6 months. Science includes history, and history is full of examples of drugs which proved to be completely hazardous to human health. Saying that they were safe, at the time he said it, was a lie: we already knew of deaths and myocarditis and pericarditis. FYI that's not "safe". It's safer than being in a plane crash, but it's not safer than "just getting covid" for young, healthy people. That's neither here nor there. Sorry but it's just a really stupid analogy. Here's a similar analogy that's actually on point: If you found out that WalMart created the f'ing covid virus, and then blamed it on a pangolin, would you trust WalMart to tell you how to treat covid? And that's actually a tougher question to answer than you think: Maybe they created the virus and then let it out because they already had the cure, and they knew that you'd have no choice but buy it... Maybe covid was a Chinese bioweapon and the jab that you received was actually the cure for a bioweapon that the US was going to release as retaliation after enough people took it (Like I said from the beginning of covid: the Chinese were basically eliminating infants 20 years ago to curb their population... If they could release a virus that would kill almost everyone over 65, would they do it?) To say: "the covid virus either escaped the Wuhan lab accidentally or it was a product of nature" is actually a false dichotomy... Those aren't the only two options and it's not even close. Maybe it wasn't even the Chinese lab that created it, maybe the Americans created it in America 30 years ago, or 5 years ago (despite international laws), and released it by the Wuhan lab. Maybe it was created in Ukraine and released there. The possibilities are endless, but everything Fauci said was still a lie, because it was all blatantly untrue when he said it.

Dipshit, you're just admitting that wind and solar are intermittent, ie unreliable, ie practically useless. Dipshit, left4rds are the ones saying that "green energy" is so much greener and better. I wasn't the one who made that up. Dipshit, Trudeau is the one who killed the energy sector, Notley would have just been his sidekick in that endeavour, but a distant second. It's bizarre BS for you to blame Danielle Smith. Dipshit, not all of the energy used in Canada is turned into electricity first. Most of the homes in BC are heated with n-gas. However, electricity is still important, and coal was a perfectly reliable source of energy, along with nuclear and hydro. NGas is not as reliable as coal: BC had a pipeline explosion in 2018 and we were one rupture away from an absolute catastrophe. Not only would tens of thousands of homes been without heat, normal homeowners can't just turn furnaces on after the gas line runs dry. We don't have enough qualified professionals in BC to turn everyone's furnace back on in one month. Your "enemies" - coal, gas and oil - aren't our actual enemies as Canadians. Our enemies are Trudeau, Carney, the rest of the LPOC, and the CBC.

They lived under a microscope. What percent of people do you think have cheated on their spouse or a girlfriend/boyfriend?

Speeders don't willfully kill 100,000 American youths every year. Fentanyl dealers do.

We re-elected a narcissistic criminal here twice, mainly because he managed to use 1.4B taxpayer dollars to blatantly bribe the media. That's not a "Democratic success story", herbie. Point to the page in "Democracy for Huge Idjits" where you saw "using gov't money to bribe the media is good for a democracy"...

The NEJoM also had to retract a fake study that they did about HCQ. All that the NEJoM ever did, right from the beginning of covid until the end, was pimp the pseudovax and ignore/discredit everything and everyone else. You might as well post Trudeau's own biography as proof of his greatness and Harper's failure.

One of the biggest problems that we have in this country is "institutions that reflect your sub-human values", eyeball. I would never expect a pregnant 27-yr-old woman to take an experimental injection just to protect me from a viral infection that I had a 99.9% chance of surviving. Never. I'd rather fight a grizzly bear using only a twig and an inch of dental floss.

You know it's a sad day when places where women are beaten up for not wearing the proper religious attire (Saudi, UAE, Oman, Qatar) are considered better places to live than Canada. At least we're still ahead of islamic sate.

🤣 Holy cultist dipshits, Batman. There is no actual math on earth that supports your ridiculous claim. How did 85% of the covid deaths in 2022 come from the multi-vaxed if it was "95% effective against BS BS BS blahblahblah..."? Did the multi-vaxed just get infected 100x as often as the unvaxed? Would you like to see Health Canada's own stats again, showing that over 85% of covid deaths were coming from the ranks of the multi-vaxed? That's a fact, bunker-boy. Sorry but your "95% effective" rubbish is as desperate & pathetic as it is stupid.

"Reportedly" lol. Stow it. Did I just hear that from a f'ing Trudeau supporter? 🤣 STOP! I'm gonna die laughing ffs. No doubt you support islam, a religion where marrying children is legal, with a prophet who married a young child himself...? Now ask me if I care about the fact that Prince Andrew might have had sex with a 17-yr-old, at a time when the age of consent was 14 in Canada? Do you even have proof that she was 17 at the time, or especially that he knew that she asn't older than that? What was he told? What did she say to him? You don't know, so shut your f'ing trap. FYI the age of consent in Canada is still just 16, and that's because Harper's conservative gov't fought to bump it up 2 years. Your precious NDP and LPOC would still have it at 14. Yes, because you have no proof that their loyalty to you was lacking. Sure, an oath can be terminated by the actions of the recipient though. Part of any oath of fealty is the implicit understanding that the loyalty goes both ways. So if the sovereign decides to kill you for no reason, you're obviously not duty bound to jump off a cliff just 'cuz they said so. The monarchy never inflicted covid fascism on us, forced kids to take a dangerous pseudovax that they didn't need, or beat peaceful protesters in the street, so I trust them more than I trust the dirtbags in the LPOC. King Charles is our actual sovereign, as per our constitution. LONG LIVE THE KING! Gimme a break, cougar. What were you saying and doing while our LPOC was forcing kids to take a jab which we KNEW to have both dangerous, permanent and even lethal side effects? Who can a person like yourself possibly ever look down on? Is a pedophile, rapist or murderer all that much worse than you? It's debatable.

You're tilting at windmills, user. I never flippantly dismissed any misfortunes that happened to anyone. 1) the time between birth and two years old is a scary time for everyone, because babies can't be vaccinated 2) measles isn't as dangerous for kids as it is for babies, that's just a fact. I'd argue that having your 6-yr-olds vaxed is more beneficial for your babies than it is for them. If I'm wrong about that, then I'm obviously not alone. Go tell the medical professionals at Stanford that they're wrong. So what? It's accurate. The measles vaccine is pretty damned close to being a magic shield, and that's why people use it. It massively decreases the chance that your child dying from measles or suffering life-altering side effects. But IT'S A VACCINE. That's what VACCINES have always done. Big Pharma, Fauci, and the Canadian Gov't just took the word vaccine and used it to print money during covid. FYI the covid shot was absolutely not a VACCINE by the standards that we have all come to know and understand, any more than Vitamin D injections would be considered vaccinations. "Thanks to your dose of the vitamin D vaccine you're less likely to get cancer. Therefor it's a cancer vaccine!" "Science" 🤣 The "science" that you're citing was never anything more than a pack of lies. It was a lie to say that HCQ had no chance at all of ever working and Dr Dider Raoult was a fool for ever thinking it might it was a fabrication to pretend that there was definitely going to be a vaccine for covid and that we knew in advance it would be 100% safe and effective it was a lie to promote the message that vaccines were our only hope of beating covid it was a lie to say that the vaccine was safe and that it was working as advertised in 2021 (when it was known to be harming and even killing people) it was a total fabrication to promote the message that children and healthy young adults somehow needed a jab or that taking it would prevent the spread of covid it was a lie to say that covid almost certainly came to humans through an intermediary species even in 2022 we were still being lied to over and over and over again about the efficacy and safety of the pseudovax when our MSM ignored the fact that covid deaths in 2022 were substantially higher than in previous years, that was a case of lying by omission is lying. Cases and hospitalizations were up as well our MSM also chose to hide from you the fact that the vast majority of covid deaths in 2022 (more than 85%) were among the multi-vaxed, and that's almost as big of a lie as Fauci's own whopper about the pangolin not only were we lied to constantly, people were banned from FB, Twitter, etc for telling the truth about things like the BSL4 lab in Wuhan. The TRUTH was banned here, user. our CBC is openly a part of the "Trusted News Initiative', aka the Goebbels News Network, along with the people at FB, Twitter ,etc, that banned the truth about the BSL4 lab. They also banned the truth about the Hunter laptop, even to the extent of kicking the NYPost off of social media. This isn't just a case of "tens of thousands of people just being stupid and wrong 100% of the time for years on end". It wasn't science or mistaken science. It was lying and manipulation on a scale that would have made Goebbels blush. FYI when 'scientists' say things that they know to be untrue (because even I knew them to be untrue), that is not science. That is not even bad science. That is just lies. They pissed on your face and told you it was raining, and now you're trying to tell me it was rain when I knew it was pi55 all along. Of course I have lost trust in those people. I KNOW THEY'RE F'ING LIARS. If you run into a Dr that tells you the truth, consider yourself lucky. If you buy some pills and they actually do what they're supposed to, consider yourself lucky. But "trusting the science" isn't a thing anymore for intelligent people. I hate to say that I trust Joe Rogan more than I trust the Canadian gov't and our medical community, but I'd rather listen to Rogan be occasionally wrong than listen someone that is definitely lying all the time.

Correction: Carney lies about everything because the only alternative is to admit to how badly the LPOC has at various times either failed or intentionally screwed the country up in the last 10+ years and how badly he is doing as PM. But the CBC backs all of his lies then tells Canadians that our main problem is the leader of the opposition, and the cultists have proven time and time again that they will just commit all of the CBC's drivel to memory without questioning any of it, so he has no reason to start telling the truth. Try to get ex-flyer, moonie, or eyeball to admit that Trudeau or Carney ever lied or did anything wrong and you'll hit a brick wall. To those little cultist nutjobs the jabs worked 100%, only the unvaxed died, there was no problem at all with the way Canadians were treated during covid, the SNC and WE mixups were all just misunderstandings, killing the energy sector was a boon for our economy, there are 215 kids buried in Kamloops that were slaughtered by knife-wielding nuns, hijabs are a symbol of joy and all cisgender white men in Canada are evil, etc... It has all been sunshine and roses here under our glorious leaders in the LPOC, and Poilievre is our greatest enemy. I'm not kidding when I say that I'm not "Canadian" anymore. I have nothing in common with these worthless losers that form the majority of this country.