WestCanMan

Lol. Great Thunberg springs to mind. In all fairness to her, she's a kid with some passion and I don't blame anyone for wanting to be heard, but I honestly thought that it was the height of stupidity for leftists to put her on her lofty pedestal re: the climate change debate. Boy was I wrong. Nothing will ever beat the day that CNN put her on a race relations panel . At that moment I felt like western society was on the verge of absolute failure.

As if we needed any more evidence, it's almost official now: https://nypost.com/2021/06/06/damning-science-shows-covid-19-likely-engineered-in-lab/ If this is true then it is officially over for Fauci, because he said in no uncertain terms that all the evidence pointed to the virus naturally evolving from bats. If this genome pairing really is in C19, and it has never been found anywhere in nature before, this is the piece of solid forensic evidence needed to confirm what we surmised all along from the pattern of lying & destroying of evidence by the culpable parties, the massive coincidence required for their story to be true, the history of lab failures in Wuhan and the lack of precautions that they took in handling coronaviruses, etc.

OMG cougar, your historical awareness is funnier than your spelling. The diseases that I'm talking about are not from the middle ages. I didn't say Bubonic plague or Justinian plague, I said the Spanish Flu, TB, smallpox, etc. Do you really have no f'ing clue when those things were killing people? Do you know nothing about the Spanish flu? You might wanna sit this one out.

Welllll, for sure the things that the FN people are talking about did happen. Children were definitely molested and abused, and even if no one ever made the accusation or admitted to it, it's impossible for 150,000 children to be put into facilities like that and for none of them to end up being abused. I think that we've come to understand that as a species. What almost certainly didn't happen is a bunch of murders. Of course there should be an investigation, but it's ridiculous for our MSM to crow that the least likely scenario is the most likely scenario.

Of course it is about where you watch 'it' and how much of it you watched. If you're watching CNN and CTV you're never going to hear anything that they don't want you to hear. FYI omission by lying is a huge deal. This is what you get from CTV, CNN and CBC: "Hey dummies, covid came from a wet market. It says so right here in the Lancet. Anyone who says anything different is just a racist. We should go around in big groups hugging people like Nancy Pelosi, and ride the NYC subway like normal with no masks on as per DeBlasio's orders, we should force care homes to take C19-infected patients in, we can't test HCQ because it kills people and causes blindness, and we need to hate Trump because he's killing people with covid." Honestly, leftists are just that stupid - they gobbled up every bit of that shit and asked for more. No myata, not at all. Are you fuckin kidding me? Did you not read the part where the Chinese gov't denied the world access to investigate covid, destroyed evidence, forced a Dr to retract his statements, and then that guy "died of [a bullet infected with] covid"? Do you understand that the WHO was telling THE PLANET EARTH that H2H transmission wasn't happening when all of the evidence pointed to the fact that it was? They told the world not to bother preventing people from covid zones from coming into their countries. The WHO had one big test in our lifetimes, it was an easy one, and they got zero percent on it. 0%. Even Trump did way better than they did and he didn't spend one second in med school. Only Trudeau was dumb enough to believe them 100%. Trump had those pieces of shit dead to rights when he defunded them but the MSM and Democrats fought for the WHO harder than they fought covid, and the WHO is a den of maggots. You clearly didn't even read the article, you don't even have a clue wtf you're talking about. Go look and it now and you'll see how stupid your comment was. Harris and Biden were part of the crowd calling the lab theory a 'fringe theory'. I'd argue that being part of a coverup is bad. What about you? Even if God himself appears on earth, works a couple of vast miracles to prove who he is, and then says that virus came from a wet market, that still doesn't vindicate the abject stupidity/criminal conduct of calling the lab theory a 'fringe theory'. Do you understand that? If nothing else, there was an overabundance of evidence that people who worked in/funded the Wuhan labs were acting in ways that scream "COVERUP!" If the mafia refused to let anyone investigate the suicide of someone who blew themselves up in a car just before they were about to testify against them, then the mafia destroyed all of the evidence, and put out a press release saying that the mafia wasn't to blame for it, would you believe it? Would that change if The Lancet released an article saying that they weren't to blame? How about after you found out that John Gotti was the lead investigator for the Lancet? How about when you find out that mafia forced someone to recant their testimony, and then that guy 'died of covid'? Biden/Harris: "If you suggest that there needs to be an investigation into the mafia, you're a crackpot or a racist." Myata: "I'm not a racist Joey B! I don't want an investigation! The argument in favour of an investigation isn't supported by evidence!" WCM: "The evidence was destroyed, mayata, by the mafia, remember?" Myata: "No, I didn't bother to read that part, but I'm going to say this again, there is no evidence."

No one knows right now whether those are unreported deaths, and it's almost impossible for it to be so. The Boer War was two decades earlier, but 1919 was a year unlike any other in Canadian history. I mean, honestly, what percent of the mass graves from after the Civil War in NA do you think are from 1919? Probably all of them. Aside from maybe in Mexico, from drug wars.

Myata, you should just watch Tucker Carlson instead of just clinging to the leftist mantra: "Everything on Fox is bad! We will never look for ourselves to found out what they are saying, because it is like downloading evil directly into your brain!" Honestly by now you have ample evidence of leftists lying to you 24/7. You have nothing to lose by taking a glance. What's the harm in seeing one more lie, after all that you've gone through watching CTV and CNN, and listening to Trudeau, AOC, Biden, Harris, etc? Are you still clinging to the hope that one of thsoe losers will say something intelligent and accurate one day?

Here's an article that you'll appreciate: https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/the-lab-leak-theory-inside-the-fight-to-uncover-covid-19s-origins . It distances this investigation from the right-wing sources who have been considering the lab-leak theory all along, and even makes snotty remarks like: "And yet, in the wake of the Lancet statement and under the cloud of Donald Trump’s toxic racism, which contributed to an alarming wave of anti-Asian violence in the U.S., one possible answer to this all-important question remained largely off-limits until the spring of 2021." They're clear about making this officially a left-wing cause now, even though it was the Dems and their pitbulls in the MSM and social media that had originally cast this discussion as verboten. Not surprisingly, when they came over to the right-wing side of the aisle, they suddenly had FACTS on their side. Their mix of shock and elation must have been quite overwhelming. They had this to say: So these things that Trump was saying at the very start ("we have some evidence that supports the lab leak theory") and that Rand Paul and others tried to corner Fauci on, are now also leftist talking points. Here's another GOP talking point for you, that has been cleared by Vanity Fair: Here's an admission of guilt by Vanity Fair, but they're careful not to mention who the guilty parties were - IE the political party, MSM outlets, and social media outlets who made the topic out of bounds and banished people to FB/twitter jail for stating that which was verboten: Here's how far drooling leftist neanderthals go to prevent people from thinking for themselves: Here's the zinger - the point where it is revealed that, once again, "science" was actually just a political tool: (So..... one of the most culpable people on earth actually organized the scam to block the investigation into the virus, and at the snap of his fingers the leftists instantly started barking their common refrain: "SCIENCE HAS SPOKEN! SCIENCE HAS SPOKEN! SCIENCE HAS SPOKEN!") Aside from being snotty, and telling the lies about the GOP that leftists sources are obliged to tell, VF really lied by omission here: The honest truth is that Trump punished the WHO for their blatant support of the Chinese but the MSM and the Dems went 100.00% against Trump. Media and high-ranking Dems helped to kill off any consideration of the WHO's role in hampering the investigation. None of this should be news to you, because it was all widely reported, but now that you look back at this, doesn't it make you feel foolish for disregarding the lab-leak theory when you were simply told to? Honestly it should say "wink, wink" beside "COVID-19" above. Anyhoo.... LOL @ VF: FYI, the Commander-in-Chief has a 'god-mode' security clearance. He has access to all information that anyone else in the US has access to. What he saw or did not see, no one else can say. Another thing: the "intelligence officials" are the liars that helped cover this all up in the first place. They were also implicated and indicted as criminals in the Russian collusion fiasco. *Spoiler alert*, more Vanity fair snottiness ahead: Hawkish lol. Just because other people were smart enough to read the writing on the wall over a year before VF stumbled into the truth in the dark doesn't make them "hawks". This next bit just proves that leftists were being blatantly stupid for accepting the xenophobia angle, but VF is too stupid to realize it so they printed it anyways: In case you fail to understand what I said above, this blows the xenophobia argument out of the water, unless you think that Chinese people are racist against Chinese people. Safety was a joke in the Chinese labs: I'll spell this part out, because they miss the full gist of it (being leftist dolts and all) - if you believe that the C19 virus that originally busted out was a naturally occurring virus, and not altered by gain-of-function research, then this means that the Chinese virologists were basically playing with this global pandemic virus at the kiddy table. Next... So, when you come up with some more eyebrow-raising evidence, you need to stfu. Makes sense when you consider how they handle literally every other narrative. And yes, I mean narrative, because leftists deal in 'narratives' and nothing else. This is just an aside, but I'm pretty sure that the theory that spurred the HCQ trials was the fact that it might block covid at the ACE2 receptor. For some reason leftists went wild the second that HCQ was mentioned. If you ever wonder how hard Nancy Pelosi would have fought covid if she really gave a shit, just look at how hard the leftsts fought HCQ. The disinformation campaign was set to hyperdrive. Daszak again: Oh yeah, then there was this: There were so many reasons why "right-wingers", aka geniuses from a leftist POV, questioned the wet market theorists, it was obviously not a case of being 'hawkish'. But God forbid we question the almighty WHO, which said that H2H was not a thing lol. Fuckin leftards are the dumbest things on the planet. If you want to read the rest, go for it. VF sickens me and I'm sick of mansplaining as well. TBH you coulda just done a Ggl search yourself.

So, back at the beginning of the 'pandemic', sensible people deducted that the likeliest place for covid to have originated from was the BSL4 lab in Wuhan. It's right at ground zero for the outbreak, they were studying bat coronaviruses - including dangerous "gain of function research", and there are tens of thousands of wet markets all over China so the chances that covid would spring from that exact wet market was far too coincidental. One of the world's most "highly acclaimed scientific/medical sources", the Lancet, was quick to throw down their criticism of the lab theory back in Feb of 2020, and that put an end to such discussions. The Dems, Biden, and their MSM considered the lab theory to be a 'fringe theory', IE you're a crackpot if you believe such nonsense. Talking about the Wuhan BSL4 lab would get you sent to FB jail, along with any other covid comment that they didn't like, including talking about HCQ, something else that the Lancet attacked: https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-papers-retracted-lancet-new-england-medical-journal Tucker Carlson, the brightest star by far in the world of television media, summed it all up brilliantly: https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/tucker-some-within-the-us-government-helped-china-coverup Within minutes of tis thread going up, you can expect an idiotic and inflammatory thread about Trump or the GOP to go up to distract from the conversation about the origin of covid. Who would really care about such a thing anyways?

Sure, the failing of Canada's modern education system is that liberals are morons whose contribution to society is little better than urine on the chalkboards, but it's impossible to have a society where no one says anything stupid, and the intelligence level required to teach school kids is minimal. If you want to do something about it then as parents, we just have to get involved with their homework and help them realize how narrow-minded their teachers actually are. For example, one of our girls was writing an essay in grade 10 which she titled "Who Were The Slaves", where she want on to explain how "slaves were the black people who were owned by white people in America...". It's what she honestly believed, it's what she was taught. In the end, it was a really good teachable moment about why not to just ingest the slop that other people, even those in positions of power, are regurgitating.

They didn't expect the Spanish flu to come along when they set those schools up. The problem that they faced was: children were living in primitive shelters during the Arctic winters, not learning math, English or science, and their parents were determined to keep it that way. The children were spread across millions of sq km of wilderness, and it wasn't feasible AT ALL to set up schools for them all which were close enough for them to walk to and from each day. Boarding schools checked every box from cost-efficient, effective (the only really wealthy person that I personally know sent his kids to boarding school, then they both made it into Cambridge), and it got them out of their primitive shelters. To put this into context, Nikola Tesla graduated 15 years before that school was even set up, and Tesla knew more about physics than everyone on this site put together. None of those kids even knew what a battery was, or how to spell 'dog'. They were looking at several more generations of exactly the same if nothing was done about it. Extricating those children from their situation was an imperative for people who believed in things like education, equality and increasing their standard of living. Most of us would call people like that 'decent'. If dialamah is the altruistic person that she claims to be then she'd be beside herself in Dec of each year, thinking about kids being raised without access to education, living in stone-age accommodations, with zero chance of ever improving, or giving their kids a a chance. The fact that it played out so poorly is just a failing of human nature, and not the result of an evil plot.

Exactly. They didn't live in places with marked roads and home addresses by the front door, they didn't always live in permanent settlements, and in some cases they even had temporary seasonal settlements. Leftists have no clue what was involved in 'notifying families' back in the day. Just imagine it's Nov 1919 and some dude has to go out on horseback to notify a family that their child is sick. The Spanish flu is going around and it's worse than covid by orders of magnitude. Healthy 28 yr olds and pregnant women are dying faster than any other demographic. No one wants him travelling into their town, he can't stay in their hotels, and in the winter he can't just pop into Save-On to get fresh veggies, because selling fresh vegetables in winter wasn't a thing back then. If the stores were open when he got there they might not be open because of the flu, they might not allow people from outside their town in, or they might be out of stock. But dauntless is his middle name so he saddles up and heads out to find someone who lives "somewhere between Adams Lake and Shuswap". It's not like he could just send the family a text, or cruise down plowed, sanded highways in a Jeep Wrangler with the tunes cranked, using the GPS, leads him directly to their front door within 1 hr. He has to go through bear and cougar country on a horse with no headlights, and if he gets attacked he has no cel to call an ambulance. He's just fucked. So for the sake of argument, the poor sap goes out on horseback, gets lucky, and when he gets back there are 11 more sick kids. And someone in his own family is sick. That's no prob though. "Git 'er done Luke! You got this!" You'd think that all the C19-spazzed leftists here would understand how people would go into a bunker mentality during a pandemic that was far more serious than the vid, and how hard it might be to ride around the northern wilderness in December notifying nomadic tribes-people who might also be avoiding the plague.

You said this: It's bizarre that you think people just kill children like that. If you think that's the likeliest cause of death when there was TB, Typhoid, smallpox and the Spanish flu going around then stupid is a better word. But you almost have to be evil to have such a wicked POV. If someone in your family or your care dies of a disease do I get to accuse you of murder dialamah? Are you a murderer? Do you find it easy to just bury people? Do you find it easy to just bury children? Serious question. I think you're sick.

I wouldn't call this 'an equalizing tool', I'd call it racism, and I'd call it pandering to 'woke' idiots and black racists, and I definitely wouldn't dismiss it as 'meh'. There are people who aren't black who have just as much need and right to help from the gov't.

Do you understand how factually inaccurate that sentence is? If I said that "the kids there were fed hamburgers", that would mean that all of the kids were fed hamburgers. If I said that "the kids there were subject to physical and sexual abuse", that would mean that all of the kids were sexually abused. By the same token, I could say that Jr hockey players in Saskatchewan were abused, just because of what happened to a few kids on one team. It's atrocious what happened to those few Jr hockey players, and to whatever native children who were abused, but understand this: IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THINGS HONEST AND IN PERSPECTIVE. THE FACT THAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE OPPOSITE IN EVERY SINGLE POST THAT YOU MAKE SAYS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU. It would be completely honest, by your standards, to say that Native children were subject to physical and sexual abuse from their parents and siblings. Is that a useful part of a conversation? No, it is not. It's misleading and idiotic, so why does it resemble your writing style? This is one of the downfalls of all types of communal living. It's why members of the military are forced to shave their heads, for instance. Science would predict this correctly 112,254,924 times in a row. I'm eager to have media in this country that presents stories from a factual perspective, and not with a political agenda. Does that make sense to you dialamah? Why are you so protective of their 'right' to be dishonest? What does that say about you? The jumping off point for productive dialogue is an honest, objective and comprehensive article or story. As long as people like you keep on waving pom poms for CTV, CBC and Global they'll just continue to feed you more of the same shit. Just know that at some point they'll be encouraging your kids to fight in a war, and you've allowed them to be liars and helped build up their false 'credibility'.

OMG, get a grip. You're honestly saying that you believe that schools would just let the kids die and bury them, thinking that their parents would just forget about them? "Heyyy, didn't we used to have 4 kids? Where's the other one?" "No, I think we actually had like, 7 or something." OK dialamah. Makes sense.

It's weird how carefully scripted this whole media event actually is. Everywhere that we see this story covered, in print or on air, they're always careful to steer the story away from the obvious question: "How is it possible that kids were dying at their school?" because they know that in order for the story to keep building momentum, they need people to have the murder angle looming large in the background. They're careful not to mention murder when they talk about those bodies, because it opens up that whole subject, but then they switch away to the story about people who were murdered, and that's their 'in'. This 'discovery' is being used to build up focus on Trudeau's shiny new virtue signalling campaign and nothing else. It has replaced covid as the new drug of choice to hook the stupid viewers who are experiencing covid withdrawal.

Remember this school was in Kamloops, which is in a heavily populated area, so it's not as if every kid who went there was from 2,000 miles away. A lot of their families would have lived well within a day's journey.

Every reasonable person is grieving the fact that small children died so far away from home. It's gut-wrenching to think about a 6 yr old child on their deathbed who hasn't seen their mom for... an hour? A day? God forbid a week or a month.... I would think that in a lot of instances it was a week or more, and that for those children, sadness and desolation must have made the difference between living and dying. It's unbearable for some people to think about kids not being buried where they normally would, but that's a distant second for me. But that's not how this story is presented. This story is presented as "evidence of a mass murder, which is part of a genocide, until proven otherwise". The truth is that 1) there's a very sad story to be told here, 2) there were likely several people who were taking care of those children who knew more grief every single second for years than you'll feel for those kids in your entire lifetime. Just think about it. A lot of the people who choose childcare as a profession actually like children. SHOCKER! They don't usually take war veterans with PTSD or ex-convicts and put them in charge of orphanages, just so ya know. This could be a case where the adults in charge of that school were sick and dying as well as the kids. You just don't know, do you dialamah? But hey, don't let that stop you from assuming the worst, or slandering people, because that's just your own nature. Our media is just disgusting. Here's a story from CTV that discusses the topic in depth and doesn't mention A SIGNLE CAUSE OF DEATH in any residential school, ever. No stats on how many children died of different causes, nothing. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/delicate-sensitive-process-expert-talks-on-searching-for-burial-sites-with-radar-1.5450922 They're not treating these children as children, they're treating them as pawns in la turd's anti-Canada virtue signalling campaign. Singh is out there blubbering and blowing snot bubbles because he can't afford to miss the bus. No one in the media is talking about what likely happened, and that's called "ignoring the elephant in the room". What you need to ask yourself is: "Why doesn't the media ask the most obvious questions? Why do they leave us to assume the worst?" Hmmmmmmmm.

That's a bit hokey, but I think it perfectly sums up the way American GIs felt about supporting fire from Huey gunships.

Here's the scene from the movie. It's a pretty decent one by today's standards. Side note: I always feel like 'fix bayonets' is a uniquely awful command to hear. The age old equivalent would be something like 'hold the line', but it was normal back then. Modern soldiers don't expect to smell the breath of the person they're killing.

I can understand your POV, and I admire the fact that you're willing to look at our own situation instead of jumping directly to whataboutism as an excuse for our past transgressions. However, we are human, and in order to judge our predecessors fairly we need to compare ourselves to the whole spectrum of human behaviour in the past. We also need to judge people from the past by comparing them to their contemporaries, and the people from their own recent and distant past, not by comparing them to people who grew up in a world which in no way resembles the one that they grew up in. What went on pre-1492 was far crazier than what we did to the natives in Canada, by a lot. The standard prior to that was steal everything that you can, enslave as many people as you can, steal their women, and it's shitty to even say it, but throwing babies from the castle walls isn't a myth. Humans are as shitty, or shittier, than any animal out there (but TBH, throwing babies off of the walls isn't unique to humans. If a male lion takes over a pride and he gets a chance to kill the cubs of the dominant male before them, they will). I can promise you that if Mohammed's own army came here that man would have converted literally every buck here to islam, and the ones who refused would have their heads chopped off and their wives and children would be slaves. That's the actual backdrop that you need to compare Canada's settlers with. It was nothing like 2019 Cabbagetown where little Johnny, Kwame, Isoruku, Hakim and Geronimo grew up together, oblivious to racism. This society is like this because CANADIANS (our ancestors) MADE IT THIS WAY and for no other reason. No one forced us to treat other people like equals. We had the power to be worse than we are and it was our ancestors who dragged civilization from the dark ages to exactly where we are today. It is 100% legitimate to compare Canadians to what other cultures did when they were in positions of power and there's literally no other comparison worth making. Look at all of the lakefront in BC's lower mainland. FN people own most of it, they can hunt and fish without quotas while other Canadians sometimes aren't allowed to do either at any point during the year, or just seasonally - with quotas. They don't pay property taxes, and if they live on res sometimes they don't even pay income tax. They get more medical and dental benefits than the rest of the country. They get free university. It's not a bad gig. Can you find me a place anywhere else on earth where the minorities get those kinds of benefits over and above the majority culture? Don't kid yourself, it doesn't exist. Just completely disregard the morons here who will diss Canadian culture at every turn. Everyone has an elevator speech about the greatness of their own religion, their culture, their people, blah, blah, blah, but almost all of them will jump right to calling you a bigot if you discuss their history, because the facts are not on their side. No other culture would have been this good to FN people if they got here first, period. We were still shitty by today's standards, but those are standards which we created and which no other culture has ever lived up to.

I'd be hesitant to declare my allegiance in that direction. You never know if, by some weird sequence of events, Harry becomes King. I wouldn't cross the street to save that man.

Exactly. The Spanish also suffered under muslim rule for centuries right before they went on their own rampage. What they did was more of a learned behaviour than anything that they thought of themselves. I'd hazard a guess that every human being on this planet is the product of rape at one or various points in their family history. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the average human is the product of 50 raped maternal ancestors over the past 400,000 years, or who were impregnated as slaves and had never consented to sex or motherhood, but I don't know how anyone could ever claim to know such a thing. I find the word 'humanitarian' to be quite ironic for this and a lot of other reasons. I'd argue that if one was to do something that is uniquely human, it wouldn't be very altruistic.

I have to put all this shit in context for literally everyone I talk to. That's because our news likes to trick people into assuming that these were from murders. 1) The school opened in 1890. 40 years before penicillin was discovered. 2) A lot of Canadians, even in modern cities like Mtl and Tor, were still dying from things like smallpox, TB and the flu at that time 3) The Spanish flu hit in 1919 and there are mass graves all over North America from that time period. My guess is that this is what the mass grave was from. It would have been hard to get dead bodies shipped around the country back in 1919 because travel wasn't quick and easy, and they didn't have hermetically sealed containers for shipping dead, diseased bodies around. I don't know what the cause is, but I find it disheartening that all of the usual suspects are gleeful about the prospect of assuming the worst and slandering everyone that they can while this remains a mystery. Some people just suck. Whatever.