WestCanMan

Re: my reply to Argus above, I didn't even mention how the MSM overlooked it when Chris Cuomo was in covid quarantine, went out and got in a fight, and then made a hokey video about "Here I am coming out of covid quarantine for the first time in weeks" lol. Uhhhhhhh, we're not retarded fuck-fuck. We saw the video of you walking around outside the other day. I also forgot how Andrew Cuomo forced thousands of people who were still infected back into care homes when he had other options, he forbade anyone from testing them for C19, and then he forced his minions to fudge the number of care home deaths and/or record them as 'hospital deaths', and he got an Emmy for that. You just couldn't make leftists care about the people that he killed while he was acting like "the covid god who led us all to safety while Trump was killing people" ?. It took the Emmy-tards almost a year to take away after he was outed. They waited until the ass-grabbing scandal took him down so that they could quietly remove their name from the covid euthanasia scandal. Why is it that no leftists care about the Cuomos' covid scandals? Like, not a teensy little bit? Is it a scandal? Is it just part of the vast array of covid bullshit that we've just gotten used to? Fact: leftist are nothing more than useful idiots.

I think that 2020 was 'the perfect storm' for covid hysteria. (I think that the age of the baby boomers is also a factor that I hadn't even considered until I was near the end of this very post. The baby boomers have always sparked 'the new economic trend" such as toys in the '50s, cars in the '60s & '70s, etc, and now they're at the 'oldies requiring vaccines' stage of life.) 1) There was anti-Trump hysteria, and covid was just another way to attack Trump. And like everything else, the accusations didn't have to make sense, they just had to be believed or you were a racist. 2) China was pissed off at Trump, and the Chinese gov't had their own guy installed as the head of the WHO. What better time for a virus to leak out that kills old, fat people (aka yank-boomers). 3) Big Pharma has always wanted the seasonal flu jab to be mandatory, but the nurse's union fought them off successfully when they got to their high-water mark previously. They know that if they can get the vaxx into the 12-59 yr old demographic they can pump out some sweet-looking stats. 4) The MSM's ability to control people in 2019 was through the roof. Never before were as many Americans as easily led around by the nose as they were during the collusion delusion. 5) Boomers - see above 6) The tough thing about speaking out against covid hysteria is that everyone was shit-scared of saying the wrong thing just in case all of the liars were right. When the Karens in the MSM kept yelling "it kills everyone" we could see the stats ourselves: the avg age of death was 78 and in most cases there was 1 or more co-morbidity, but it's hard to give advice that could be fatal if it eventually turned out to be wrong. The vaxx companies can be wrong though. They can literally kill you and get away with it. You still have to sign a waiver to take their shit, and as soon as the stats come in that say 'the jab isn't working' they can say "Delta threw us a curve. Theta threw us a curve. The I Ata Pi threw us a curve. Tau threw us a curve..." Soon they'll be on to Swahili, then Cyrillic, then Chinese characters, then they'll finally just use the dollar sign and tell us to stfu and take the jab.

Here's the deal with covid. If you're saying things that promote covid fear, or provide support for Big Pharma's vaxxes, you get a star. It's not enough to get vaxxed yourself now, you have to try to ostracize people who don't mindlessly follow the bizarre new message of the day, every day. If you own a business and you want to keep it open, you need to enact a bunch of COVID SAFETY rules and put mentions of covid in people's faces at every opportunity. Make rules like "If people lean on this railing at the ballpark, you have to sanitize it". Ding! You can play baseball now! Or: "All the people who come to the grocery store have to walk in and out through the same set of doors, the other ones will spread covid!" Or: "You can riot and loot without spreading covid, but you can't sit on your own blanket in the park." The Covid Karens are Big Pharma's useful idiots.

Big Pharma is one of the biggest lobbyists in the western world. This wasn't the first big push to get everyone vaccinated against the 'big, bad seasonal flu'. How did the WHO get everything so wrong when they only have 1 fucking job, and it's a job that almost any mom on the planet would have dne better at in 2020? Why did the ridiculous pangolin theory remain so popular when there was a BSL4 lab right beside the wet market that was testing gain of function research on bat coronaviruses? Why was it so fucking racist to even talk about the lab leak theory? Why are 12 year olds being vaccinated when they aren't at risk from covid and they can still carry the virus anyways? Can you tell me how leftists somehow knew in advance that HCQ was going to kill people when that hadn't been the case for 60+ years? They were wrong about that, but who cared? Why did two of the world's largest and 'most-respected' medical journals public fake science to discredit HCQ? "Uh, due to privacy concerns, we can't back any of that shit up." Where was the coverage of that? Where was the anger when 'science' lied? How many times has 'science' been wrong now? Can you imagine if the leftists who went berserk to discredit HCQ the second that they heard about it had put that same level of effort into fighting covid back in January of 2020? C19 wouldn't have had a chance in hell to get here. Instead of telling people to ride the subway like normal they'd be telling them to find alternative modes of transportation or even stay home whenever possible. Instead of telling them not to wear masks they'd say keep your mouth and nose covered at all times. Instead of calling travel restrictions against people coming out of China "racist" they would have been very keen to stop the virus at its source. Instead of putting out a video about how awesome it is to hug strangers in a huge crowds in Chinatown, Pelosi would have been promoting all races to fight covid together. We would have kept our N95s here at the beginning of the outbreak but we still don't have access to them. Weird. Why doesn't our country try to start manufacturing them? We earmarked $900M for We Charity instead of making an N95 mask facility. No one gave a fuck. Why? Can you tell me how those exact same leftists somehow knew in advance that the hastily prepared and not properly tested vaccines were going to be perfectly safe? They were wrong about that. Lots of people died. But we never really heard the anecdotes about those deaths. The MSM was silent. That's weird, because the MSM just LOVES covid stories. They go out of their way to find covid stories to talk about, but when young healthy people were killed by the vaxx it wasn't a story. Why? They told us about a 59 yr-old dude from England who 'had no underlying health conditions' and died from covid. Anecdotes are a big deal. But we have to ignore vaxx death stories. Stories about teenage jocks who got extremely serious side-effects from the jab are not for public consumption. Can you tell me where the rumour that Trudeau was a covid hero came from? He told Canadians "covid won't get here". Then he gave away all of our PPE. When we still had no covid here he let tens of thousands of people fly in from covid hotspots and wander freely without screening, quarantine, masks, or any other measures to protect Canadians. Our medical experts told us not to wear masks. He turned his nose up at American vaxxes, put us at the back of that lineup, then he had to poach 2,000,000 vaxxes from the 3rd world charity pool. Canada has the world's 39th-largest population, we're 189th in pop density, we're an ocean away from the origin of covid, but we were in the top ten to hit 5,000 covid deaths. Trudeau held press conferences with fake C19 safety (he was socially distanced but maskless MSM stooges huddled together under a tent to film his propaganda). Trudeau told people not to cross provincial borders then he went to Quebec a week later. He said that Canadians have to Quarantine when they came back to Canada then he didn't quarantine himself. Trudeau literally botched every single facet of covid defence imaginable, but he has unfalteringly been proclaimed a covid hero from the onset. How is that not some kind of conspiracy? The vaxxes were pimped as safe (lie), they'd get us to herd immunity (lie), vaxxed carry far less covid (lie - vaxxed and unvaxxed carry covid at the same rate), they said that dbl-vaxxed people dont get very sick (that'a a lie, they were dying right from the beginning), we get bogus science discrediting competing treatments (why the fuck would we be against testing other means of fighting covid?), our government puts out misleading stats to promote the vaxx... I'm not telling you what to believe, I'm reminding you of all the things that you already know, and putting them together in a post. Just look at all that shit and try to tell me that you're not sick of getting lied to...... The only thing that you know for sure is that Big Pharma is winning the war on turning the seasonal flu vaccine into a mandatory shot, and that people between the ages of 12 and 59 have to get the jab to pump up the vaccines' success stats. What else do you actually know for certain Argus? What can you tell me that you'd bet your life on?

What is the problem??? I guess part of the problem is that you still don't get it? And that now you're interpreting the data with ridiculously flawed logic? Hint: there wasn't even 1 person in Ontario that was dbl-vaxxed for the first two months of the study, and those are the two peak months for every flu season. There were 14M people who weren't dbl-vaxxed during those two months. Do you get it? When people start to wear mittens, it's flu season. When people start to wear sunscreen, the flu drops off the map. By the time that there were a significant number of people who had been dbl-vaxxed and gone through the 14-day period at the end, the flu season was already in sharp decline. Look for yourself at the covid numbers for both 2020 & 2021 (look at 'Daily New Cases in the United States' at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/). Covid infections in 2020 followed the exact same annual trend as the seasonal flu - high in fall and winter and declining sharply through spring and summer. Covid in summer of 2020 was next to nothing.

You're extremely eager to just put their sordid past behind you and focus on their juicy new shit. That's alarming. Did you actually think about this before you started regurgitating it? I bet that you didn't. Just for shits and giggles, how many times do you have to catch them lying before you start to question them?

1) OK then you tell me what it means to you when the gov't of Ontario posts 'stats' based on data collected between Dec 14th and Aug 7th of that year, and acts like there are some conclusions to be drawn from them? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU C2015? 2) What do you think about the people who sad :"HCQ kills people and turns them blind, but the vaxxes that come out will be safe and effective"? It turns out that they lied about the first part, and they also lied about the second part, because the vaxxes are responsible for thousands of deaths. 3) What do you think about the people who said that the vaccines would give us herd immunity, who have now walked their claim back to "they'll still allow the spread of covid just as fast as being unvaccinated does, but it will make it less likely for you to die." 4) What do you think about the study form Israel that shows that 60% of people in hospital with covid are dbl-vaxxed? Right now, from what I see, you're choosing to disregard most of everything, and just focus on some new study from the Ont Gov't after their first study was shown to be bogus. That's some pretty bizarre cherry-picking. You're like a woman who only trusts Bill Cosby to get her drinks.

That's just bullshit C2015 and you know it. When I said the stats that the gov't of Ontario was pushing were bullshit I was 100% right. If you have a beef what I said then state your case then do so, don't just make snotty insults. The Ont gov't was just proven to be intentionally deceptive. Did you look through that study to see if it was deceptive or did you just post their next round of stats without questioning them whatsoever? Let me guess, it's the latter. Can you paste these latest, most excrement stats, C2015?

1) You didn't acknowledge that you understand what I told you. It's important for you to be able to think for yourself C_2015. Getting citizenship here is just a worthless passport swap if you're not going to think for yourself. You may as well be back in China or Iran where the gov't 'tells', and you just STFU and think what you're told to think. 2) Do you understand that the dbl-vaccinated are carrying covid at the same rate as the unvaxxed? Like I said before, they're not vaccinating kids to save them from covid, and they're not vaccinating them to stop them from spreading covid. Right now, dbl-vaxxing kids does 2 things: 1) It makes lobbyists (Big Pharma) a shitload of money 2) It pads the vaccines' stats Scientifically, it doesn't do anything. It is only known to do those two things that I mentioned.

"Pro-vaxxers" is an alternative way of saying "the people who believe everything that they are told without question." You're not 'pro-vaxx' because you studied the topic closely and tried to understand the stats yourself. You're pro-vaxx because Trudeau, Pelosi, CNN and CBC are wildly pro-vaxx and you don't have a filter in your head that helps you to think for yourself. Just remember - the Gov't of Ontario published a study that said that 92% of Ontarians who got sick with covid between Dec 14th and Aug 7th were unvaxxed, and they promote it as if it means something. Would you care to guess how many of those people were dbl vaxxed between Dec 14th, when the data started to be collected, and Feb 28th? There were almost zero people dbl-vaxxed, and 14M who were not dbl-vaxxed. How is that 'a study'? Do you know how many people contract the flu, and covid, during Dec to February, compared to June and July? Do you understand that the gov't of Ontario was being wickedly deceptive by posting that kind of a study as evidence of anything? You're not a 'pro-vaxxer', you're a person who regurgitates propaganda.

The Province of Ontario has a very recent history of putting out misleading vaxx stats, and they also vaccinated the vast majority of people who wouldn't have been at risk of hospitalization and ICU admission to pad the vaxxes' stats. You understand that, right? Do you understand that vaccinating 12-50 yr-olds was just 'padding the stats'? It's like giving men 90 men and 10 women Pamprin, and then saying "only 4% of the people in a recent study experienced pain from menstrual cramps when using Pamprin". You need to understand that there are lobbyists who give politicians all kinds of juicy perks for pulling the right strings. A perfect example of that was SNC Lavalin - one of the biggest lobbyists in Canada, with a court-documented history of giving bribes in the millions of dollars to Canadian officials, who had a law created for them by the PM, and who were also able to get the PM to place undue pressure on the AG to use that law when the AG had decided that it was not the right thing to do. Lobbyists are a very big deal.

Mask-wearing contributes to covid hysteria, and helps to justify the Big Pharma solution. Lockdowns also promote covid hysteria, which helps to justify the Big Pharma solution. If you think about it, literally every single action and comment that every leftist politician in NA made led us down the path to vaccines and away from everything else. Trudeau's decision to allow flights from covid hotspots, the fact that he gave away all of our PPE and got back junk, Trudeau saying that 'covid wouldn't really get established here, DeBlasio telling NYers to ride the Subway like it's normal, Pelosi going out into a throng of strangers in SFran and hugging people, leftists urging on riots while forbidding all other gatherings, leftists went snakey on HCQ and spread lies and disinformation at a pace that would make the Nazis blush, etc. Now all that leftists politicians do is push the vaxx and publish misleading stats, and their next step is to ostracize people for not vaxxing.

One other thing that the Vaxis have going for them, is that the unvaxxed have people like my neighbour bumping up the mortality stats. He's only 6 years older than me but he looks like he could be my dad. He's been smoking weed and drinking since 1980. He has "no underlying health conditions" but he couldn't walk up two flights of stairs without keeling over. I can promise you that none of the pharmaceutical companies want that guy taking their meds, and represented in their stats.

We need to be careful about what we're offering up to people who are collecting data. Right now there are millions of children between 12 and 18 vaccinated, and hundreds of millios of 19-60 yr-olds. Why is that? Is it to save them from covid? Not at all. Is it to stop them from spreading covid? Nope. They can still do that too. Then why? What does it do for certain? Two things: 1) it boosts the profits for the Big Pharma lobbyists who are talking to our politicians, and 2) it boosts the stats for the Big Pharma vaccines, because none of those millions of people would have gotten sick from covid anyways. Just think about it - Big Pharma and their political operatives are forcing millions of children and young adults to get vaccinated with experimental jabs just for their own profit margins, and to create a wave of fake science. FACT: WHOEVER HAS THE MAJORITY OF THE 12-59 YR OLD CROWD ON 'THEIR SIDE' IS GUARANTEED TO WIN THE COVID STATISTICS SWEEPSTAKES. NONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL DIE FROM COVID. When dbl-vaxxed people die from the vid, the vaxxists say "They were almost all elderly with co-morbidities". WOW! No shit Dick Tracy.

I actually copied your style and tone for two reasons: 1) because you deserve to be talked to like that, because it's accurate, and 2) it would be nice if something happened here to deter people from talking like you do, so I kept it going in hopes that people take notice of it. I'm not the original author of such language, just a person who's talking in a manner that seems to be allowed here, for now. At least we've finally come to the inevitable point where you realize that all of your arguments have been eviscerated, so you've just cut your post down to the snotty insults and abandoned the BS. Kudos BF.

I don't know because I've never paid it much heed in the last year. If it was wildly successful I think that we'd know by now because someone probably did a worthwhile test somewhere. What you still don't understand is that it was actually really important to have an objective study at one point and that never had a chance to happen because as soon as Trump said HCQ it became a political hot potato and the moron crowd went absolutely berserk on it and they still do. 1) You really need to grow up. Your rants are pathetic and childlike. 2) It's tough to say if something 'works' to the extent that Drs were hoping that HCQ might work, because a 0% mortality rate wasn't a realistic goal among the demographic that's at risk from covid after the virus has really taken hold. Basically, when you test people who are 78 yrs old, have co-morbidities, and are a week or two into their battle with covid it's just a fact that some of them are already going to die unless your cure is on par with 'antibiotics vs bacteria' and that's not normally a thing in the world of dealing with viruses. The hope for HCQ was that it would help people in the target demographic who used it right away when they first got infected, and that it would really help people under 70 from getting sick enough to suffer long-term effects, but objectively studying covid right now is like a death sentence for your career as a virologist. 3) It's really easy for people who have a stake in discrediting HCQ to rig tests to make it look bad, and those people include a] dirty politicians like Pelosi and Schumer who attacked HCQ when they had no way of knowing whether or not it would be effective, and b] people who work for Big Pharma who really want patented vaccines to be the only game in town and do not want off-patent medications like HCQ to work against covid. 4) Just to illustrate how idiotic your statement "nobody expected it to be a potential cure until Trump the moron uttered it in one of his idiotic ramblings" was, here's a snippet from an article that was done long before C19 became a cash cow: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7128816/ I'll just say this again, your comment "nobody expected it to be a potential cure until Trump the moron uttered it in one of his idiotic ramblings" was nothing short of pure ignorance. You bitched about HCQ for a year and you still didn't even know a fuckin thing about the topic. In addition to the fact that HCQ has been considered to be a potential ally in the fight against covid, it's one of the cheapest drugs on the planet. If HCQ cold have worked it would have been the absolute best scenario for people from the 3rd world, right up to the very wealthiest. I expect you to know all this now, There's no more excuse for you to say any more stupid things like you did in the post that I'm quoting now. Ok you really have a problem with logic. Let me spell it out again - if what you're quoting is true, then it means that the travel ban was a success, because... 1) COVID ORIGINATED IN CHINA. 2) ACCORDING TO YOU, COVID HAD TO GO THROUGH EUROPE TO GET TO THE USA. THAT MEANS THAT IF EVERYONE HAD BANNED TRAVEL FROM CHINA LIKE THE USA DID, THEN AMERICA WOULDN'T HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH COVID VIA EUROPE. OTHER COUNTRIES THAT BANNED FLIGHTS FROM CHINA, LIKE JAPAN AND TAIWAN, WERE VERY SUCCESSFUL AT STOPPING COVID. If your study said "All of the covid in America came directly from China", that would mean that the travel ban didn't stop fuck all. Do you understand that? Also, your statement that it was a 'partial travel' ban was just ignorant and stupid. He allowed Americans to come back from China, that's not a partial ban. It's a ban. Dude, just because you’re too stupid and uneducated to understand statistics, you got sucked into posting worthless crap, but don’t assume everyone else is. You’re not fooling anyone - you got 100% owned and proven wrong. You literally posted numbers which are reported daily in plain language but don't actually mean anything…and because you’re such a bottom-of-the-barrel oaf who can’t make heads of tails of it you still don't understand that the numbers you posted are completely meaningless. Then you just posted a link and said "Find somethng in there that proves me right". And then in your most recent reply you just said “haha me right you wrong, me smart you stoopid!” You’re not fooling anyone dumbass, you got owned. This was your own idiotic, worthless post: FYI that means that 23% of the infected people were dbl vaxxed.... and 77% were....WTF were they? Can you tell us all without making guesses or assumptions? No, you can't, so you just posted pure horseshit and you still have no fucking clue, even after you had it spelled out for you. So instead of owning it and trying to post something else that was useful, you resorted to throwing a tantrum. FYI, Moderna will definitely consider you "unvaccinated" if you have one of their shots plus a Pfizer. So will Pfizer. If you get two Moderna shots, but they're twice as far apart as is recommended, they might still consider you unvaxxed, and a lot of Canadians are in that exact boat. So "individuals who are not fully vaccinated or have an unknown vaccination status" is just a completely worthless 'stat'. If you get this one wrong again you're just a complete idiot.

The only idiocy here is the hypocritical drivel that oozes out of your brainwashed, uneducated 'mind'. Like I said - you’re completely inventing the claim that Russians weren't paid, and your claim that everything Hillary did was somehow legal yet it was illegal when Trump committed a lesser version of the same act is the epitome of hypocrisy. Meanwhile the Trump team should have alerted the same US authorities that decided not to prosecute Hillary for her crimes, and who granted immunity to Hillary's acquaintances for nothing in return, when approached by the Russians, instead of merely listening to them. If you gave 7 monkeys 7 keyboards for 7 minutes they would eventually recreate every intelligent & accurate comment you ever posted.

I think it's pretty well-known that a lot of universities in the States are closer to 'alt-left' than 'alt-leaning'. Woke dogma is law in places like Berkeley.

? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/07/30/provincetown-covid-outbreak-vaccinated/ The CDC thinks that vaccinated and unvaccinated people carry covid at the same rate. 3/4 of the people in Mass were vaxxed, and 3/4 of the people in Mass who were infected were vaxxed. There is also a large study out of Israel showing that people who previously had covid do far better than people who are dbl vaxxed. I might have had covid last January but I never got tested so I don't know. I remember eating a small bag of jalapeno chips and not being able to taste them, but I didn't get very sick at the time so I didn't think it was the mighty covid. That was before I knew about 'loss of the sense of taste' being a covid symptom, as well as the part about 'remaining asymptomatic'. I'd actually like to get a test to see if I've had it. I suspect that I did but I'd like to know for sure.

This actually reminds me more of the "caesar salad special" train and Justin's own trouble wth protestors lol. Back when P.E. Trudeau was PM he gave the finger to a bunch of people in Salmon Arm BC who were protesting (because of the growing inflation and Trudeau's attack on the resource sector), and then the train was pelted with vegetables and rocks the rest of the way through Canada. Now Justin is facing seriously angry protestors while he's out trying to campaign, and it's got a lot to do with his attacks on the energy sector and inflation as well (of course there's much more to the protests against Justin but that's an aside).

IMO the only reason why the CBC is giving the conservatives their due in this election is because of the Maverick Party. If the polls were showing Trudeau cruising to another victory then the Maverick Party would be a force to be reckoned with out west, because just getting a bunch more conservatives elected out here would be a moot point. That's not to say that the Mavs would win massively, but there's a very real chance that they'd be able to grab enough seats to have more status than the Greens and maybe even the NDP. Just imagine a country where 2 of the 4 largest federal parties are separatists - that would be Trudeau's legacy.

I sensed a big change in the weather when Trudeau's teddy bear photo op flopped. Normally that would have been a glorious moment for him but it landed like a turkey from a helicopter. I know a lot of Canadians who never saw it, so it didn't get a ton of coverage, but he was universally seen to be using dead children as an election prop, even among Liberal sycophants. In that moment, even if O'Toole was just standing still he took a big leap forward. He's not seen as divisive or as a big user of people, just a guy with a tough job to do. IMO the bloom is off the rose, and that's all there ever was in this instance. The quote that sums him up best is still Leo Knight's : "Trudeau is the Kim Kardashian of political leaders, an all-style, no substance bimbo with all the depth of a puddle." In 2019 their crusade from the last 20 years (climate change) was reported as the biggest election issue, and yet the Greens were still unable to gain any ground on anyone. IMO their embarrassing loser of a leader just caps their party's potential as 'a sideshow' at best. No one takes them seriously. Bernier strikes a chord with conservatives who are furious with Trudeau's inept and vacuous leadership. There are atheists & religious devotees who would vote for Satan right now if they thought that he could beat Trudeau and they're not happy with "Trudeau-lite".

The vaccination passports would make sense if unvaccinated people could spread covid and vaccinated people couldn't, but vaccinated people are just as capable of spreading covid as anyone. In this idiotic "vaccination passport" scenario, vaxxed people get to go out in public and spread the disease and unvaxxed people still face the same chances of getting infected.

Your post was pure idiocy. 1) Hillary actively hid money that was funnelled to Russians, and she solicited them for intel. There's evidence of clandestine activity, consideration for services rendered which were illegal (if colluding is illegal), and she initiated the contact with Russians. Those are all very important legal considerations. 2) A Russian told Trump's people that they had evidence of a crime, and it's not a crime to go listen to evidence. There was no money exchanging hands for services rendered. The meeting wasn't done covertly because there were a lot of people there. Again, all very important legal considerations. The fact that the woman was Russian doesn't make a lick of difference. If someone has actual evidence of a crime and they want to give it to you, it's almost a civic duty to listen. You can read English, so you have to be smart enough to understand all of this, and you must realize how foolish you look by now. You just choose to live a lie.

I don't know if HCQ works or not, and that's not the point. The point is that I was absolutely correct when I said that leftists lied like motherfuckers about HCQ when the info from the first study came out. If you don't believe me that the Lancet and NEJoM posted a bullshit study to discredit covid then look it up yourself. I already posted it several times in this thread. You have literally no excuse for not acknowledging that now, aside from abject stupidity or the fact that you're lying. HCQ doesn't kill people period, and that has been known for 60+ years. You have to take more than a Kg of HCQ to start to be at risk of vision damage. Leftists went hyperbolic against HCQ with blatant lies. They fought against it far harder than they fought against covid, and that's a fact. Just look for anyone on the left doing anything to fight covid before Feb 29th of 2020. There's nothing. But at the first mention of HCQ they attacked it like rabid dogs and they're still saying stupid things to this day. Just look at what I quoted above. It's completely retarded. Oh my god and then you talk about stupid, brainwashed bullshit. Even if the most-likely-bullshit study that you're quoting is true, then Trump's travel ban still worked because it means that covid had to get to America through Europe instead of coming direct from China. Do you understand that? No one is denying that covid came from China. If they're saying that it got here from Europe then the travel ban worked. DOH! Politicians are committing your number one sin by promoting masks and vaxx. They should just stfu, right? Politicians are lying by saying that cloth masks stop covid. There's not a study that shows that. N95 maybe, but Trudeau gave all of ours away and got garbage back. Politicians always lie about the vaxx. They claimed in advance that the vaxxes would be safer than HCQ (that original sin again - LMAO). That was a lie. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people died from the vaxxes. No one died from HCQ. They claimed that the vaxxes were going to give us herd immunity when we got to 80%. That's not the case at all. They put out misleading studies that exaggerate the effectiveness of the vaxxes. The only actual fabrications about HCQ came from leftists, including the Lancet and NEJoM. OMFG, now you're saying that we should guess. BEAVE: "JUST LOOK AT THE DATA, IT OBVIOUSLY MEANS SOMETHING, I JUST HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT THAT IS! BUT IT HAS TO BE GOOD! JUST MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT EVERYTHING POINTS TO MASSIVE VAXX SUCCESS!" Everything that I said was 100% percent true and makes total sense. You just quoted some stats that you thought were meaningful and I proved that they were totally useless bullshit. You coulda just said "Thanks man, I'll never quote that BS again. You just saved me from looking retarded in the future." Instead you doubled-down on the stupidity. That's just a mixture of your conspiracy theories, stupidity and whining. Your stats say exactly what I told you they say and they lack the information that it would take in order for them to be meaningful. 1) Stats are always meaningless when the most important info is missing from them. 2) If there are stats there that are actually meaningful then find them and cite them next time instead of getting suckered and citing worthless bullshit. You can try to read the full stats yourself and search for something that's not worthless, because you're the one who extracted pure bullshit and cited it in your other post (this oughta be good - watching you try to read a scientific report has got to be like watching a monkey try to program a space rocket).