WestCanMan

https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-recommends-against-moderna-pfizer-vaccines-for-most-pregnant-women-11611775138 The WHO also said that blocking travel from China was unnecessary, and they said that H2H transmission wasn't a thing after they knew that was false, so I take anything that the WHO says with a football-sized block of salt.

Of course not, because a lot of them are young and they only got pneumonia because they had aids. Those are AIDS deaths and no one would argue against that. But we're talking about people like: 85 yr olds who've had several open-heart surgeries and who are dying from emphysema and liver disease and we both know that they didn't get into that kind of shape because of covid. And if you think I'm exaggerating, I'm not, at all. It's an absolute certainty that tens of thousands of people had that surgical history plus a lot of the things that I mentioned there. The CDC's report said "on average" the 94% of people who had more than 1 cause of death listed had, on avg, 2.6 co-morbidities. Look at the covid deaths stats in the US: over 600,000 of the 650,0000 deaths are from people 50 and over. 500,000 of them are from 65+, and only 12% of the population is over 65. Literally 5 of 6 deaths come from 1/8th of the population. And even in the 65+ category, 94% of the deaths involve co-morbidities. These are all facts. Google that shit for yourself if you don't believe me. You should honestly look at this as an exercise in thinking for yourself. You can come back on here and lie your face off if you want, but for your own good, go read something. Stop watching CNN and CBC. I'm not trying to be rude, but you really should be able to figure things like this out for yourself.

I don't claim to know what the FBI think of young girls, but I do know that they're not actual police, per se. So find some 2005-2020 photos of Epstein and Trump then. Not a lot of pedophiles brag about what they do. Also, decades ago, Epstein would have been a young man, and you don't know what his sexual preferences were back then, or what he was letting on. Trump has no ties to that island nor to Epstein in recent years. Your idiotic article is almost two decades old now. Go fish Beave. Again, as usual, you're squarely in the go fish stage of your argument. People tied to Epstein recently are Prince Andrew, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton and many others, but we don't know who they are because the good ol' FBI has all the footage from the cameras on the island. Again, they're greasy pieces of shit, not to be confused with actual police. If you look at your last paragraph honestly, you'll realize that it sounds more than just a little bit moronic. When I call out the credibility of the FBI I name actual cover-ups, lies, disinformation, criminal activity and specific people who have been charged or specific evidence that they've buried (eg the video footage from Epstein's island - thanks for reminding me). The MSM is just a complete joke and if you can't acknowledge that then you're just being dishonest.

I'm not going to tell you what to think. All I am doing is telling you what the media should have told you to begin with. You don't have to think for yourself at all if you don't want to. Just carry on dude, but don't take offence when I point out the abject stupidity in your posts from here on out. No, it means that when someone has more than one official cause of death you don't just get to lump it all into one category. If someone is over 75, they have 5 causes of death, and they die with covid, in reality that's more like .2 covid deaths, but it gets chalked up as 1. Side note: some dipshit on the news yesterday said that more people in America have died of C19 now than died of Spanish Flu lol. What a fuckin crock. The hardest hit demographics for S-Flu were healthy 28 yr old men and pregnant women. Covid has only killed a handful of people under 50 who would be considered healthy.

Yes, Obama is a bigot. Yes, the FBI completely lacks credibility as a result of being duped and committing crimes during the highly publicized and totally fake collusion investigation, but also from letting a pedophile continue to rape yung gymnasts. The FBI is a joke dude. If that was the KGB doing all of that then CNN would have a heyday writing about them. Even your own comment says "women on the younger side". Not girls. Epstein was banned from Trump's Fla estate for over a decade. Go fish. Your posts reek of desperation, ignorance and stupidity.

And 600,000 deaths in the US get reported on the news as covid deaths and you don't question a single one of them. ?

Read much? He died the night of June 15th, there was an autopsy performed on his body, by July 2nd he was already buried and there is still no official cause of death, but he shared the common vaxx symptom of other boys and young men. If people who die with covid can be listed as covid deaths then this is definitely a vaxx death. The well-documented vaxx symptom is still the only known medical issue that he was suffering from. Stop playing incredibly stupid dude, I already explained this to you in plain English: only 6% of the deaths listed as covid deaths happened without other co-morbidities listed among the causes of death. When you see "85 yr-old died of covid" there's a 94% chance that covid is only 1 of the causes of death on their Death Certificate. On average, there are 2.6 other causes listed. That means that in a lot of instances there are quite a few. If you wanna make people think that you're way smarter than you really are, just copy and paste my posts. You're welcome.

https://nbc25news.com/news/local/cdc-94-of-covid-19-deaths-had-underlying-medical-conditions When you hear a stat like "600,000 Americans died of covid", that's not accurate. It's actually "600,000 Americans died with covid". You could really only say for sure that 6% of those people died from covid. Yes, sometimes. An inflamed heart is a hallmark of covid vaccinations. The vast majority of people who have 'fluid in their lungs' live to tell about it. It's not a death sentence unless you're 85 with 2.6 co-morbidities. I think that Pfizer and Moderna won't stand for any less than 100% certainty. Any grey area is welcomed. Your confirmation bias is showing. When a 13 yr-old dies in their sleep there's a cause. When an 85 yr-old with co-morbidities dies it is a mixture of things. Now you know. Don't mess this one up again.

This is tough for me because my own son is turning 12 soon and the pressure to get him vaxxed will be very real. He's a competitive athlete and he was already going to provincial championships when he was 9. Now he's at an age where there are national and int'l tournaments that he has a chance of qualifying for, and I don't know if he'll be able to go unvaxxed. I don't think that covid would make him very sick, but I don't like deciding for my kid either. I'm seeing my own family Dr tomorrow, I'll go with whatever he says, but I'm still really hoping for the Medicago vaxx to get approval. It's a traditional vaxx, not mRNA.

I can't say for sure, but when people who are 85 with co-morbidities cough within 2 hours of dying it's instantly declared "COVID! Case closed!" and that's a wrap, so how isn't that 13 yr-old's death automatically considered "vaxx-related" until proven otherwise? Why does every single vaccine adverse reaction death require a lengthy, official investigation but C19 is always instant? If you think about whether or not there's a strong causal relationship, it takes a lot to kill a 13 yr old in their sleep, but thousands of 85 yr-olds with co-morbidities die in their sleep every night.

They're not listening to scientists ffs. They're listening to lobbyists. Do you think that Biden, Schumer, Pelosi and Trudeau know an electron from an elephant?

I'm not following anyone. I just reminded you of the myriad of MSM/Fauci/leftist lies that you're well aware of but choose to turn a blind eye to. If you're dumb enough to listen to people after their tenth lie that's your problem.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/2021/07/02/jacob-clynick-pfizer-covid-vaccine/5323095001/

Why are you trying to limit the hypocrisy to just celebrities? I named two high-level politicians as well. One of them is President Biden's "Special Envoy for Climate" and the other happens to be our PM. "Rules for thee, but not for me!" What about the hundreds of people who flew to Pallermo in private jets? What about the thousands who flew to Davos in their private jets? Those are your climate change champions. They're your leaders. Why do you follow people hypocrites like that? No, it is not true. It's true that he's an atmospheric physicist who taught at MIT for 30 years, so there's a really good chance that a lot of other people think exactly like he does. Go find out what "the majority of climate scientists" actually say for yourself, don't just quote fuckin liars like John Kerry and Justin Trudeau. If 97% of scientists say that climate change is real then 3% are morons - the climate is always changing. But you won't find anywhere that "97% of scientists believe that man-made climate change is real and that it's going to result in disaster if we don't change". That's not a real thing at all. It's fake as fuck. And just remember that the IPCC is from the UN, just like the WHO, which told us to leave flights open from China and not to wear masks when we all thought (knew) that sounded (was) catastrophically stupid.

You're the moron EC90. You don't know jack about vaccines and you just stuck something in your body based on a recommendation from the CBC and lying leftist politicians. I'll take my chances against covid and I don't give a rat's ass what you think. Get over yourself.

Celebrities are lying when they say that they give a fuck. So is Kerry. So is Trudeau. And FYI the last two aren't merely celebrities. I think that people in the MSM say "scientific consensus" just like they say "intelligence officials concluded that the laptop was Russian disinformation". And not "all climatologists" agree on global warming. Here's a guy who knew more about the climate back in 1980 than you will ever know: https://www.prageru.com/video/climate-change-what-do-scientists-say?gclid=Cj0KCQjwqKuKBhCxARIsACf4XuGQJiwJpSUADzldLj5omvY5MwB0Zgv1Qq5eP7ur46A9TC19FcFPtYYaAkQNEALw_wcB I don't believe what Bernie Madoff says about investments, what the Taliban say about women's rights, or what the Liberals and Democrats say about climate change and vaccines.

No. Vaccines have not been successful against the flu. CDC: There are also risk factors with the flu vaccine, and common symptoms: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/flu-vaccine.html Sounds a lot like..... the flu. Summary: Sometimes they make the right stuff, sometimes they don't, and even when they make the right batch, it only works 40-60% of the time against two strains of the flu. For the 3rd, it barely works for anyone. And people who take the shot can still get flu symptoms just from the shot, so what's the point? The polio vaccine works. Ditto for meningitis, smallpox and many other serious diseases. Thank god for that. The flu vaccine kinda works, and it protects you from something that's not dangerous to most people. So whats the point of taking it? No, these are the first mRNA vaccines ever used.

Vaccines have never been successful against the flu, and mRNA vaccines don't have any kind of a previous track record to speak of, it's just ignorant people who don't know that.

I look at the facts. Facts are actually the foundation of real science. That's not ignorance. It's 100% certain that vaccines make big pharma and the politicians who like lobbyists rich. Everything else is just a crapshoot.

Eventually science stopped denying the round earth lunacy too. It wan't hard to notice that smoking was killing people, the evidence was eventually overwhelming. Money bought the scientific consensus for a long time. Money doesn't have to hold the scientific consensus on the topic of global warming forever, does it? The Dems just need to win a few elections and it's gold. they've gotten busted on dozens of huge lies, including Russian collusion. No one cared. They won't care about global warming either. They're fuckin idiots. Trudeau spent $4B of taxpayer money, so what? The pipeline still goes nowhere, and Trudeau wipes his ass with taxpayer dollars. When Canada is an indebted shithole his family will move. I'm not telling you a conspiracy theory. I'm telling you facts. Literally everyone who pushes global warming to us flies around on private jets or owns multiple homes. That's a fact. It's not a conspiracy theory at all TB. Look it ffs.

People have died from taking the vaccines, even as young as 13. It's not uncommon for kids between 17-19 to get inflammation of the heart that lasts up to two weeks. These are just the things that we know about, but getting this information is like pulling hens' teeth. Is there more? What about in the long term? Of course we don't know yet, do we? The MSM doesn't talk about these things, they just push, push, push the vaxx all the time. The media pushed false side-effects of HCQ, they tried to tell us that the vaxx would be safe, they still pretend that there are no dangerous vaxx side-effects, they cited awesome-looking vaxx-stats that mainly include periods of time when no one was even vaxxed, they ignore stats from Israel which seem to indicate the vaxx does almost nothing, they said the vaxx would get us to herd immunity, then they told us that even though people would still get covid they wouldn't get sick, then they said that only old & sick people were dying after vaxxing, is that even true? They tell anecdotes about unvaxxed 59 yr-olds who died of covid in Britain, but have any vaxxed 59 yr-olds died? Probably, but if they do you will never hear about it, because they also ignore anecdotes about 13 yr-olds who died of the vaxx in Detroit. The MSM automatically stomp down any talk about possible success from therapeutics. Do they even talk about the apparent success of the therapeutics that the Dems just took total control of? Nope. That's a weird scenario, hey? They said that they wouldn't work, then when they work the Dems took total control over the supply, and they just say "You still need to rely on the vaxx as the main method to avoid covid". That's also weird, because top Dems (like Kamala and Biden) and MSM members (like Joy Reid) were vaxx-skeptics when Trump was touting the success of operation warp speed. Then they were pro-vaxx, but anti-mandate. Now they're in full mandate-mode. They force anyone that they can to take it, ad they put undue pressure on everyone else. If you think that any one of those things that I said is incorrect or inaccurate, I'd love for you to point it out. I pay attention to the lies, EC90. When someone lies to me, I don't assume that the next thing that they say will be true. If you actually think about it, the total sum of all of the credibility that the Libs/Dems and the MSM have on covid is less than zero. FYI that's bad. Your "end of discussion" comment really just means that you can get lied to over and over and you'll still just instantly believe the very next thing that you're told. Whatever the Libs/Dems say is gospel to you, and you refuse to listen to anything else. Go on your merry way dude, but no one is taking advice from your willfully ignorant mouth.

I'm not backtracking at all. There are American interests aligned against Alberta oil, and Saudi interests aligned against North American oil. Those guys definitely have enough money to buy science. The tobacco industry also had enough money to buy science for a long time. Big Pharma's vaccines have actually never worked if you really think about it. As soon as a bunch of people were vaccinated, and they kept getting sick, the Delta variant was blamed. Then when vaccinated people started dying, it was "just the elderly with co-morbidities" that were dying. That sounds strangely like the people who were dying of covid to begin with. I'd really love to know if 85 yr olds with co-morbidities are even allowed to take the vaccines or if they're warned against it.

A good idea would be to have enough housing for all of the legal and illegal immigrants coming into the country, regardless of where they're coming from, but it makes no difference either way to Pelosi, Schumer, AOC, Biden and Harris because they'll always be able to afford multiple luxury homes no matter what. Pelosi's husband is a really shrewd investor ? A bad idea is to allow people into the country faster than you can create infrastructure and housing for them all. It makes a huge difference to the poor people who the Dems pretend to care about. There's no one complaining about vacancy rates - homelessness is rampant. Harris's plan to favour immigrants of her own stripe is just a racist idea, plain and simple. There are people in 200 countries who'd love to go to America. Why should she favour people from the birthplace of one of her own parents if not from racism?

We didn't even need to have a pandemic here. Our PM said that C19 wouldn't really get here, and he left flights from China wide open for months. His flunkie told Canadians not to wear masks. As a result of his massive stupidity, we were one of the top ten countries to hit 5,000 covid deaths. Japan did what anyone with a brain would do: shut down flights from the pandemic's origin and gave every family two N95 masks, and they have a population of 126M (by contrast our PM gave almost all of our PPE to China - we never got any N95s back from them). The entire population of Canada lives within Tokyo's metropolitan area and yet they took several more months to get to 5,000 covid deaths. The fact that we experienced so many deaths and then had to endure crazy lockdowns is all on our village idiot. The bought-and-paid-for MSM never said diddly squat about their golden boy though. They said that he was farting rainbows and you sniffed the glory.

I already explained this to you above. Suzuki et al are only attacking Alberta and US oil. There's no one in Quebec protesting against Saudi tankers in our tidewaters. Leo DiCaprio doesn't fly to Saudi Arabia to protest against oil over there. Biden and Kerry are against fracking, they're not telling Iran to produce less oil. When's the last time that you ever saw a leftard protest against oil from/in the ME?