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What about: "The ayatollah was a beloved father figure to the Iranian people"? I can't believe that CNN hasn't used that one yet...
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Yikes. That's how G-d ignorant and stupid Canadians are. They have no idea what the Chinese would do to Canada if they got power over us. The number of their own people that they killed in the 1950s might be more than the current population of our entire country, then in the 2000s they were doing God only knows what with excess babies. Something tells me if they had the power to control all of Canada's land, they would have been encouraging their people to have more than two babies and they'd find the space for them here
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I told you guys weeks ago that Iran was likely to kill their own people to blame it on Americans. I even said earlier today that the US should limit the fighting to days when there was no school, so that the Iranians couldn't hit their own schools and blame America You're pretty quick to seize on anti-American news and blow it way out of proportion, like one of the ayatollah's puppets in the DNC Biden fired ONE drone strike during the Kabul debacle. ONE. It killed a bunch of innocent children. That's a 100% catastrophic failure rate. The US and Israel fired thousands of missiles at 500+ targets today. They killed the ayatollah and dozens of his his highest ranking officials and military leaders. But you wanna fixate on that ONE incident which could still have been done by Iran. Newsflash: Even if it was the US, they had one errant missile out of 1,000. That's not even a 0.0% failure rate, it's a 99.9% brilliant success rate. And again, this Trump war is a war of regicide, where you go leader vs leader and try to do the least amount of damage possible to legitimate soldiers, instead of keeping the leaders protected and just having a massive peon-slaughter on both sides. Look at your posts, robo, and ask yourself: "How do my critiques and praise differ from what one of the ayatollah's own propagandists would say?" It seems like you're pretty simpatico with the Ayatollah's messaging, and that of Hakeem Jefferies and Ilham Omar. Robo: "I wish that the ayatollah would win, and continue to slaughter Iranians, so that Trump would look bad."
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Can we align ourselves with China without aligning ourselves against the US, MH? China was trying to complete a deal with Iran to sell them anti-ship missiles. How close should we really be aligned with them after that? Should we give them intel? Harbour their spies? Allow them to plant missile systems here? Think about the optics of a shipment of shiny new EV's arriving here from China the day before a Chinese missile roasts 500 American sailors to death... "Yay Carney"? Think about the old maxim "A friend to all is a friend to none" for a second, if you will. At first it sounds kinda mean, like "Why can't I be friends with everyone?" But how can you have real friends if you don't put their interests ahead of everyone else's? "Can you imagine no love, pride, deep-fried chicken, your best friend always stickin' up for you even when they know you're wrong?" - Train, Drops of Jupiter Trump is going at us over free trade, yes, yet the US still isn't screwing us all as badly as Quebec is, and he hasn't done as much damage to our economy as Trudeau and Carney did.
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Did Pakistanis STEAL Indian land? Yes, far more land than Israel "stole". The Pakistanis killed about 2,000 times as many people. The Pakistanis displaced ten times as many people, with no right to return. The Pakistanis got that land given to them the exact same way that Israel was given theirs: by British partition, 8 months earlier. The Pakistanis even committed a SECOND genocide, which was also in the millions, in 1971. Now tell me how easily India can recruit Arab nations as proxies, you f'n stupid troll. They can't. The muslims all welcomed Pakistan with open arms that same day. Robo: your animosity towards Israel is born of bigotry and stupidity, which is par for the course when you're a cultist loser 😉
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I'm not a religious person, but in my own way I'm praying that the common people of Iran, who just wanna go about their own business, come out ahead in all of this. I hope that the injuries, deaths, and even the damage to their personal belongings is kept to an absolute minimum, and that at the end of the day, Iran becomes a more tolerant and inclusive society where different cultures can flourish.
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I don't care about a win for Trump, or for the US... the survival of Persian culture and beauty is what's at stake here. For my entire life, Iran has been a symbol of ugliness, oppression, hatred, bigotry and brutality, and that's not what people are about, at all. It's not what Persians are about, and tbh, the majority of muslims aren't even that way, but the sad thing about islam is that it's a system where the ugliest people always rise to the top. There's a really long, sad history of western involvement in the ME which has brought about the same results over and over and over: at the end of the day, all that's ever really achieved by western intervention is a bunch of people die (tens or even hundreds of thousands) and a more brutal regime takes over, leading to more oppression and more suffering than ever before. The body count needs to stay ultra-low this time, and non-tyrannical deaths need to be kept to an absolute minimum. Even the hundreds will be high, although in a military action of this magnitude, that is really high hopes. I hope this doesn't happen, but like I said before, I expect that the ayatollah already has a plan in place to bomb some of his own people to blame the Americans. I think the Americans should almost have a strict policy of only doing attacks during days when there are no classes in session, just so that it's impossible to ever say "It was an American/Israeli bomb that killed the children in that school."
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This just in! America defeats America!
WestCanMan replied to John Johnston's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
1) Let us know when they drone-strike 7 children to death 2) In light of what just happened in Iran today, it makes sense that the US gov't is overprotective at the moment. -
Two neo-Nazi groups joined together and wore a symbol that only Nazis have worn in the past 80 years, and you're calling it a coincidence... "Sometimes Ukrainians choose emblems from GERMAN medieval heraldry". Regarding the Azovs, the chance of any group being a Nazi is 1 in a million. There are a lot of groups out there and almost none of them are Nazis. One of their groups was a Nazi group. Multiply that by another 1/million, for the chances that they joined up with another group that just randomly happened to be Nazis, when they weren't looking for other Nazis to join up with. Now multiply that by another 1/million, for the chance that they would just randomly pick a symbol from medieval GERMAN heraldry but they weren't looking specifically for something Nazis wear. 1/1,000,000 x 1/1,000,000 x 1/1,000,000. I chance in a quintillion that that's all random chance, and it wasn't a nazi group. Oh, wait, they "randomly" wore two Nazi symbols. Let's throw on another 1/1,000,000. Now it's 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. One in a trillion trillions. So, I'm sayin' there's a chance...
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AI Search: Social-National Assembly (SNA - Соціал-Національна Асамблея): A neo-Nazi group. Dude, National Socialists are Nazis. They are just barely couching the word Nazi by saying that. It's like the word "Nazi" wearing a teensy little thong. So, yeah, two Nazi groups. 100%. OMG, are you retarded? Who else has used that symbol in the last 80 years aside from Nazi groups? NO ONE. I said that it has been an EXCLUSIVELY A NAZI SYMBOL FOR 80 YEARS....... BECAUSE ONLY NAZIS HAVE USED THAT SYMBOL FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS.... ONLY NAZIS HAVE USED THAT SYMBOL FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS. Right? That means that "it has been exclusively worn by Nazis for the last 80 years". That is EXACTLY what that means. And I am 100% correct again. This is getting really f'n annoying. And it appeared in medieval GERMAN heraldry. Not Ukrainian heraldry. GERMAN HERALDRY. So you're trying to say that "modern Ukrainians, from 2 NAZI groups, randomly decided to use a medieval GERMAN symbol, but it had nothing to do with the fact that they were both Nazi groups and it was a Nazi symbol..... You are f'ing crazy. K-raaayyyzeeee.
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Two Christian churches combine, and the members all wear crosses and get together together to pray on Sundays. "But the new church isn't Christian." - User Hockey players from all over the NHL join up to go to the Olympics. They wear team Canada jerseys and play hockey. "But it's not a hockey team." - User
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This just in! America defeats America!
WestCanMan replied to John Johnston's topic in Federal Politics in the United States
This is worse than the time that Biden blew up a carload of children with a drone-strike. 7 children. All killed. By Joe Biden. If he was actually even awake at the time. It was likely an unknown underling that made the call, but at the end of the day, it was Biden's fault. Anyways, this is way worse than that. Right, @John Johnston -
Are you admitting that they were Nazis now, because if you're finally doing that, then we are done here. But to this point, this is the first time that you're really hinting at accepting the N word for them. Up until now you were desperate to pretend that they belonged in the far right category but not the Nazi category. See that? You just lied again, by minimization. It's not a case of "some founders were Nazis" at all. It's a case of: Two groups joined to formed the vast majority of the Azovs 1 was a group of neo-Nazis, and 1 group was "National Socialists", which is another term for Nazis. So it was formed by: Nazis and other Nazis. These self-proclaimed Nazis wore Nazi insignias, which you like to pretend is a coincidence, because you say that "they chose cool logos harkening back to the days when random medieval GERMANS used them" lol. Not Ukrainian... German The self-avowed Nazis wearing the Nazi insignias committed war crimes I said many times that "The Azovs were a Nazi battalion when the Ukrainian army brought them into the fold", to which you always reply: "The Ukrainians brought lots of militias into their army". The Azovs have been distancing themselves from Naziism as fast as they can for years now, because billions of dollars in aid is riding on it. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that. All you do is lie, and then wrongfully accuse me of lying. Go look back to my first comments about the Azov Nazi Battalion. I've always said that they were Nazis when the Ukrainians brought them in. Of course they're pretending to not be Nazis anymore.
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That's because you lied, User. It was 100% deceitful to try to take the Nazi label away from the Azovs when they are the ones calling themselves Nazis and National Socialists while wearing Nazi insignias, to rebrand them as "alt-right" when the alt-right description was wildly inaccurate. You know for a fact that even the Freedom Convoy here in Canada was called far-right, and alt-right, by no less than our own PM and MSM. Were the Freedom Convoy members at all like the Nazis? Freedom Convoy/Nazi Battalion, same/same? The Azov Nazi Battalion WERE NAZIS by their own definition, by their tattoos, by the insignias that they all wore, and by their war crimes. PERIOD. Those are all 100% established facts. Their war crimes are documented, and stand as a historical fact, they just didn't stand trial for them. To try to water their description down to "alt-right" is to move them out of their proper category and into a meaningless category where leftists throw everyone that they don't like. IE, it is to engage in deception, and engaging in deception is lying. Minimizing is lying. Lying is lying, and you outright lied several times. Nothing that I said is inaccurate, but you keep on trying to change the goalposts and use inaccurate descriptions to try to prove tht you are right, when you know that you are wrong. Bro, people called themselves Nazis and wore Nazi emblems, and you tried to say "Those weren't always Nazi symbols." Sure, but when avowed Nazis wear Nazi symbols, it's not a f'ing coincidence. You're a liar dude. Not just a bit of a liar, you're a raging, all-out, nutjob liar. Your credibility is sinking like a lead balloon here.
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Is this an LPoC censorship issue? A DNC censorship issue? Why was the simple Search feature taken off the site? I already posted this in the steering thread.
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That's just semantics, dumbass, but you're still 100% wrong, like every time. And not just because you're stupid, because you're lying. FYI "Nazi" is a sub-set of "Alt-right", from a leftist POV. Nazis are actually socialists, because of the lvl of control that the gov't exercises over the economy and health care, etc, but lefties like to say "alt-right" to lump them onto the conservative side of the graph. So you can say either one, and a leftist will agree that they're the same thing, but FYI a Nazi is a very specific subset, so my description is just several times more accurate than yours. It's like if we are looking at an actual pitbull, and you say "It's a dog", and I say, "Yeah, it's a pitbull", and you counter back with, "No, it's not a pitbull, it's a dog." Sure you can say it's a dog and be 100% correct, but that doesn't mean that the dog in question isn't a pitbull. Get it? "Dog" means everything from a pug that can't even kill a mouse to all kinds of breeds that are capable of killing grown men. Therefor, dog is an almost useless description in some contexts, as is "alt-right", and that's why you choose to use it deceptively. You're clinging to your deceptive term like a drowning man clutching at straws. Leftists call everyone who doesn't love abortions of 7-month old babies alt-right. You're making the Azov Nazi Battalion sound like normal people. So, FYI, the Azov Nazi Battalion fits 100% into the Nazi category - by their own insignias, statements, and deeds - and just loosely fits into some people's version of the alt-right category. If you join a Nazi group, you're probably a Nazi. It's pretty hard to join by mistake, and then stay there for any length of time. User: "Ooops! I'm hanging out with cannibals, and it's dinner time... Does it make me a cannibal too if I just eat some of those juicy-looking ribs?" Now, no doubt some of the teens and grandpas that the Ukrainian gov't snatched off the street and forced into active duty in the last few years weren't Nazis, and were attached to the Azovs against their will, so the Azovs are becoming less and less of a Nazi battalion all the time, but it is still 100% correct to say that: The Ukrainian gov't brought a Nazi battalion into their armed forces The Azovs actually were a Nazi battalion, committing war crimes, when Russia accused them of being a Nazi battalion committing war crimes. End of discussion. It's true, so just stfu and admit it. FYI just because Putin is a dick doesn't mean that everything he says is untrue. Hell, AOC, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi tell the truth sometimes. Even Adam Schiff has told the truth more than once in his lifetime. And just because other Ukrainian soldiers were committing war crimes doesn't make it ok for the Azov Nazi Battalion to do it. You're lying about other things as well, but I'm not gonna go point-by-point anymore. It's just well-established that you're lying about everything in this thread now. You're literally blowing your credibility to hell here, User. They called themselves Nazis and National Socialists, wore Nazi insignias, and committed f'ing war crimes. If they did that in Canada or the US, we would accept that they were indeed Nazis (technically 'neo-Nazis' I guess), and throw their Nazi asses in jail.
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Lol. You call me dishonest, then the very next thing you say is a total lie. FYI Patriot of Ukraine isn't "far right". Noooooot at all. They were "neo-Nazi". It's important not to mix the two up, because anyone with a firmer anti-LPoC stance than Poilievre is considered "far right" here, and that doesn't make them neo-Nazis by a bajillion miles. And FYI the neo prefix doesn't diminish the Naziism aspect at all, it just means in "new". They're "new" Nazis, as opposed to Nazis who were working for Hitler in the '40s. People within those "neo-Nazi" groups don't call themselves neo-Nazis, they just call themselves Nazis, like the Azov Nazi Battalion did before they had to change the optics to make way for billions of dollars to flow into Ukraine. This is from Wiki, not from 'me' personally: Patriot of Ukraine: A neo-Nazi, ultra-nationalist organization that acted as the core of the new battalion. Social-National Assembly (SNA): An umbrella organization for various far-right, ultranationalist groups that, along with Patriot of Ukraine, formed the foundation of the unit. That's two Nazi groups. Neo-Nazis, and National Socialists, which is a cuter name for Nazi, and nothing else. What is written there^, by me, is a 100% accurate reflection of the actual historical record. What you're doing is trying to whitewash the historical record to remove the Nazi aspect from the Azov Nazi Battalion. Again: the Azovs themselves were in charge of determining whether or not they were Nazis, and they left no doubt: they called themselves Nazis and National Socialists (Nazis again), they wore Nazi insignias, and they acted exactly like Nazis... They raped and tortured POW's who were wearing military uniforms, and therefor should have been protected by the Geneva Conventions. I don't know what your problem is with this. It's cut-and-dried: the Azov Nazi Battalion were Nazis, and there's no room to dispute that claim rationally. Are you ethnic Ukrainian? Is that your problem? You want to expunge the record of any association between Ukraine and Naziism? Well here's a chill pill for you: back in the 1930s and '40s, when Ukrainians were deciding between fighting Hitler and fighting Stalin, Ukrainians had WAY MORE REASONS TO HATE STALIN THAN HITLER, and it's not even close. Stalin was responsible for killing anywhere from 3.5M Ukrainians (the very lowest estimate) to 10M Ukrainians (highest estimate) by forced starvation in the 1930s and before Hitler was even a big name, and Hitler hadn't done anything close to that to the Ukrainians yet. Not only did Stalin take all the food out of Ukraine in the '30s, he blocked the border to stop food from getting into Ukraine, and his soldiers killed tens of thousands of people to enforce those food blockades. So, did Ukrainians "proudly" call themselves Nazis, so that they could kill Russians during WWII? 100%. Is it understandable? 1,000%. Of all the forces that aligned themselves with Hitler in WWII, the Ukrainians are the only ones with a good excuse, and their excuse was awesome. I woulda done it too back then. It wasn't until after WWII that the world really learned how bad the Nazis actually were. There were even a lot of people in the German army who had no clue about the horrors of Dachau and Auschwitz, just like vax-fascists in Canada have no clue how far into actual fascism we were here in 2021 and early 2022. BUT, in the 2020s, when the Azov Nazi Battalion declared themselves to be Nazis, there was NO EXCUSE FOR CALLING ONESELF A NAZI anymore. Not at all. The Azovs were not "taking on a shiny new military name just so that they could fight against a Russian dictator who killed millions of their people, including family members", the Azovs were taking on a name "entirely synonymous with violent bigotry and genocide". They took the name and the insignias. There's no mistaking what they did for "being kinda like Nazis". They went all-in. They crossed the Rubicon when they committed war crimes. They are what they are.
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Ahhhhh, you're painting yourself into a corner now, robo... What are the two steps that you can take to have the least secure voting mechanisms of all? Let people vote without ID Use mail-in ballots 1) If you wanted secure elections, why would you let people vote without ID? Do you know that if people provide false ID to any government official it automatically makes them guilty of several felonies, on top of the voter fraud charge? 2) Mail-in ballots are extremely susceptible to all kinds of fraud. Do you think that Robert DeNiro's wife could open up a ballot and put an X beside "Trump" with Angry, Stupid Rob right there? Do you think he can't forge her signature? Do you think a mailman might see GOP or Dem signs on a lawn and decide whether or not to lose people's ballots? Do you think no one can make ballots for dead people and sign them and send them in? Do you think they can't make duplicates/forgeries of actual ballots and then send the copies back after destroying the originals? Will the avg voter know if the ballot they received was actually just a forged copy, while the real ballot never came within ten miles of their house? Robo, people can sit right in front of you with a deck of cards in plain sight, and cheat you several different ways, and 99% of people will miss them all entirely. What can they do with ballots that are in your hand for 10 minutes, and then out-of-sight for days before they're counted? Why are the Dems so keen on implementing the most voter-fraud-friendly election systems imaginable?
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Id10t, Here's who formed the group: The Azov Battalion (now the 12th Special Forces Brigade "Azov" of the National Guard of Ukraine) was formed in May 2014 in Berdiansk as a volunteer police battalion. The group was formed from several key far-right and ultra-nationalist elements 1) Patriot of Ukraine: A neo-Nazi, ultra-nationalist organization that acted as the core of the new battalion. 2) Social-National Assembly (SNA): An umbrella organization for various far-right, ultranationalist groups that, along with Patriot of Ukraine, formed the foundation of the unit. Patriot of Ukraine -> neo Nazis "Social National Assembly". Hmmmm, who were the National Socialist German Party? Oh yeah, the Nazis. Neo-Nazis plus National Socialists = Nazis and more Nazis. So a group of Nazis joined with another group of Nazis and they all wore TWO Nazi insignias, and they committed war crimes together, but BY DECREE of USER, they aren't allowed to call themselves Nazis because @User says so 😂 Twat.
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I got to the point of the conversation where I just keep re-posting facts that you can't challenge. Bottom line, the makeup of your beloved Azov Nazi Battalion is like this: 50% of the people who formed the group called themselves "National Socialists", as in "National Socialist German Workers' Party", which is the formal name of the Nazi party. They had Nazi tattoos and wore Nazi insignias as well. They also committed war crimes. It doesn't get any more Nazi than that. They were Nazis, through and through. The other half of the people who formed the Azov Nazi Battalion didn't admit to being Nazis at that time, but they were violent white supremacists who agreed to adopt Nazi insignias and join up with known Nazis. If you join a group of Nazis and wear Nazi insignias, what does that make you? 20% of the people in the Azov Nazi Battalion just came right out and admitted that they were actual Nazis, which is not a small thing to do: it instantly heaps a lot of severe hatred on oneself. You have to be in an area where Nazis are fairly popular to walk around admitting to being a Nazi. You're not the first person to support Nazis, User. And fascism is actually extremely popular in Canada, even if Canadians don't want to admit it.
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Canada's (In)Justice System AKA "Thanks, Bill C-75!"
WestCanMan replied to Goddess's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Leftists aren't concerned about the plight of children who get raped, they care about people who get shot trying to run over cops.
