WestCanMan

Of all the people I know who support Trudeau there isn’t even one rational, intelligent person who’s capable of honest dialogue. It’s just a collection of naive virtue signallers, casual political observers who just glance at a few headlines, mindless fools who just believe everything they see on CBC, and haters like montgomery who want this country to devolve into a middle-east style shithole. I challenge anyone here to string together 5 paragraphs about Trudeau and how he’s got this country going in a positive direction.

Keep on rationalizing terrorism and plugging for Trudeau eyeball. You’re the best advertisement against Trudeau on this whole website since montgomery got kicked off lol.

You’re a drooling idiot. Wtf makes you think that you know what I thougt about the war in Afghanistan? FYI I don’t even post in the today in islam thread, you’re just babbling, AGAIN. If you ever want to become rational again you can always commit apostasy. It’s not illegal here.

As usual your answers are insipid and worthless, and you didn’t deal with anything. You’re just so dumb that you don’t know when you’re losing.

I’m not apologizing for anything. It’s just a waste of time and money for us to help people who are beyond help. The saddest part of the Afghan war is that we had to choose whether to fight on the side of people who shoot girls in the head for going to school, or people whose elites have young boy-toys for sex. I wanna stay clear of the whole disgusting lot.

Sounds like you know more about it than I do. My own personal understanding was that the Americans deal with the Saudis, ie they let them basically set the tone for the middle east, and in exchange the Saudis don't promote war with Israel. I also think that different European countries have their own "friends" down there, like France and Iraq iirc, but I don't know who all the little "partnerships" are. It's super-hard to keep up to date with it all. Especially in an age where the media outright lies to us all the time. Last I heard new alliances are forming in the whole Levant war. Correct if I'm wrong but initially: Syria and Putin were allies fighting against ISIS as well as Syrian "freedom fighters" propped up by the US? In Obama's day America's stated goal was to help their freedom fighters overthrow Assad but the goal was switched to "just killing ISIS" partway into Trump's presidency? Islamic State is using a ton of American weapons that were left behind when Obama suddenly pulled the Americans out of Iraq: SAMs, tanks, artillery, mortars, etc? Iraq was and still is fighting Islamic State. Turkey still has troops fighting ISIS and they also arm Syrian "freedom fighters" to fight ISIS as well, but their fighters never had the goal of overthrowing Assad. They are vowing to fight the Kurds (because they view the YPG as terrorists) when the fight against ISIS is done, but America is trying to convince them not to? The Kurdish YPG are fighting Islamic State with American and Canadian support. The US is only doing aerial bombing and training troops, while Canada is no longer bombing since Trudeau was elected. The Kurds liberated and held Iraqi territory and then when the Iraqis threatened to attack to take it back the Kurds just moved out? Is that the bulk f what's theoretically happening over there according to our news sources? From what I know that's what was happening, but I heard there are new alliances and that the war is changing now. If I had it right to begin with, I've lost track of it all now.

Tell me where a handful of lobbysist influenced the govt to the detriment of our country eyeball. And how much worse the damage was than this Trudeau era crippling of our economy? Who is best served by this crippling of our economy? Canadians, or foreigners? More questions for you to ignore.

You never cornered anyone into admitting anything, get over yourself. I'm sick of hearing islam apologists bitching about our assistance. I say we leave them alone to dehumanize that entire region. The Taliban can stop women from going to school, and then they can have their women tended to by female doctors by going all the way to another country I guess. There's no cure for stupidity. Saying "9/11 was an effect" is just a cheeky way of justifying a terrorist attack. You're just as bad as Monty. Typical Trudeau supporter. As long as you keep justifying attacks you're just a biased hater, far worse than anyone that you yourself despise. Anyone can go back in history to justify anything. You just choose your "justification start date" and you're good to go. Does justification go back to Mohammed's violent religious bigotry which got him exiled from Mecca by his fellow Allah-worshippers? Does it go back to the Banu Qurayza massacre? Does it go back to the 400 years of Muslim attacks all across southern and middle Europe to steal loot, take slaves, and force-convert people to islam? The Barbary Pirates? The Armenian Genocide in 1915? Pakistan in the 40's? Bangladesh in the '70's? Isis in this decade? Tens of Millions of Hindus beheaded or forced to convert in India through centuries of unprovoked attacks? Nope the starting date is 1949 in Israel, right eyeball? WE CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO MUSLIMS, AND THE OFFICIAL STARTING DATE FOR EVERY CONVERSATION ABOUT MUSLIM CONFLICTS IS 1949! OTHERWISE YOU NEED TO BE KILLED!!!!!!! ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PEACE!!!!!!! Am I right? I'm pretty sure that you wake every morning and look for new and better ways to JUSTIFY your hatred, and you are immunized against facts by your shocking overabundance of ignorance. It's actually a waste of time to corner people like you and try to get you to admit how stupid every single one of your arguments is because you'll just scream "racist" and then you'll follow that up with inaccurate and extremely-bigoted comments of your own. Accusations and lies are your go-to in debates, and you'll cherry pick some actual facts and take them out of context to justify more of your hatred. You're a sick person, and a Trudeau supporter. "Give me your naive, your intentionally ignorant, and your dumbest voters! I'll buy off Quebecers and the msm for whatever other votes I need!" - Justin Trudeau.

They get the chance to say it now to look good, but when the time comes to spend it “Oops, we gave that money to 10 countries that you never heard of (global warming) and we spent an extra $5B re-educating terrorists and war criminals so that they could come to Canada and be a powerful voice against the continuing rise of terrorism in our society”.

Are you posting in your underwear again?

Aside from Joe Manchin I don't think there's a member of the entire Democrat party worth voting for if there was an election tomorrow. Schumer is a serial liar who voted against impeachment for Clinton and yet he can't get enough of the whole Trump impeachment thing. He also has the biggest slimeball aura of any politician on earth. He's a slightly better-looking version of Mr. Burns. Chris Coons is an extremely smart, well-spoken individual so it's impossible for him to not know what a liar he is. The US would be screwed if that guy ever became President. Maybe the only choice that's worse than Hillary. OAC is a nutjob socialist with a 9th grade level of general knowledge. Warren is the only Democrat to distance herself from the minority vote, and Dems have spent a lot of time trying to convince Americans that they're the only party that cares about people who are darker than a paper bag. They won't put her through. Resistance to Warren will get nuttier than squirrel shit. Maxine Waters is the only American dumber than Trudeau. People put up with her kind of crazy because she's good at rallying the haters, but she would never be broadly accepted. Nancy Pelosi is like a scarecrow that talks (barely). Almost as dumb as Maxine.People say "don't underestimate her because she is still their leader after all this time" lol. She's up against a really sad lot. The Clintons will have Gillibrand beheaded publicly before they let her get a step further. Joe Biden is loathed by 50% of Americans. Has a shot at the Dem leadership but he's a bad choice to run for President. Oprah (barf). Fake. Fakity fake fake fake. Not just a little bit racist or sexist either. I had an ex-girlfriend who used to watch that show and my wife watched it too. I probably heard 40 hours of that crap in the background in my lifetime. I was so glad when she went off the air. Best day in the history of TV. John Delaney and Richard Ojeda already declared that they're running. I don't know jack about either of them Here's a list from Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries of people who "expressed interest" Joe Biden, Vice President of the United States 2009–2017; U.S. Senator from Delaware 1973–2009; candidate for President in 1988 and in 2008[32][33] Michael Bloomberg, Mayor of New York City 2002–2013[34][35][36] Cory Booker, U.S. Senator from New Jersey since 2013; Mayor of Newark 2006–2013[37][38][39][40] Sherrod Brown, U.S. Senator from Ohio since 2007; U.S. Representative 1993–2007[41][42][43][44] Pete Buttigieg, Mayor of South Bend since 2012[45][46][47][48] Bob Casey Jr., U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania since 2007[49] Oscar De La Hoya, boxing champion from California[50][51] Tulsi Gabbard, U.S. Representative from Hawaii since 2013[52][53] Eric Garcetti, Mayor of Los Angeles, California since 2013[54][55][56] Kirsten Gillibrand, U.S. Senator from New York since 2009; U.S. Representative from 2007–2009[57][58][59][39] Kamala Harris, U.S. Senator from California since 2017[60][61][62][39] John Hickenlooper, Governor of Colorado 2011–2019; Mayor of Denver 2003–2011[63][64] Eric Holder, U.S. Attorney General 2009–2015; Acting U.S. Attorney General in 2001 from Washington, D.C.[65] Angelina Jolie, actress and philanthropist from California[66][67][68] Amy Klobuchar, U.S. Senator from Minnesota since 2007[69][70] Terry McAuliffe, Governor of Virginia 2014–2018[71][72][73] Jeff Merkley, U.S. Senator from Oregon since 2009[74][75] Beto O'Rourke, U.S. Representative from Texas 2013–2019, Democratic nominee for United States Senate election in Texas in 2018[76][77][78] Tim Ryan, U.S. Representative from Ohio since 2003[79] Bernie Sanders,[a] U.S. Senator from Vermont since 2007; U.S. Representative 1991–2007; candidate for President in 2016[80][81][82][83] Eric Swalwell, U.S. Representative from California since 2013[84][85] Booker and Beto are probably the strongest candidates there. Booker tends to be a hotheaded idiot though, and his big, loud, hater persona will work on the antifa-type Democrats but hopefully not the mainstream. If Beto just looks classy and does some Trudeau-style virtue signalling I think he will pull it off. De La Hoya and Angeline Jolie lol. If Angeline Jolie ever becomes President I will move to Iran and convert to radical islam. There's nothing I hate more than shameless self-promotion disguised as charity (hello Oprah). She's THE fakest person in the history of the planet. Why is this list of Dems so appalling to me? Every one of these people is so damn fake. Bill Clinton was the only Democrat I liked and it turns out he was one of the slimiest. What a sad group.

The problem with ignore is that people can still see your posts and reply to them. Eg, I bet that I can say whatever I want here and you won't know hehe. ARGUS LOVES BRETT KAVANUGH! HE HAS A POSTER IN HIS ROOM!!!!!!!

It's my understanding that because the taliban don't wear uniforms they are considered "unlawful combatants" and don't get all the protection that real soldiers get in the Geneva conventions. They can surrender or be taken prisoner if they're caught, hurt or whatever, but they don't get the same rights as an actual POW. IE, there's nothing in the Geneva conventions to stop the US from "Gitmoing" them and whatever that entails. The US couldn't be expected to just catch and release even under international law, so a holding facility of some sort couldn't possibly be ruled out. If the UN doesn't like it they can always be defunded. The Nazis starved the russians to death unless they beat them to death first. Gitmo is nothing like a nazi prison camp for russians. Anyone who is offended by Gitmo is just being a hypocrite.

Lol. Touché sapper.

I just saw ten seconds of Schumer's reply. It was THE MAIN THRUST of his argument and it was an outright lie. He basically said that Trump is holding the country hostage because Trump's not getting what he wants. The truth is, he's extending the shutdown because he's not getting what the electorate chose. You see, a government was elected with a border wall as a main campaign promise. So if the President is trying to fulfill it, that's not personal.

Dude, you are a terrorist sympathizer. When terrorists read your posts they say to themselves “this guy truly appreciates what we’re doing and why we’re doing it.” It makes them feel like the good guys. How can you possibly think you’re not sympathetic to their political “cause”?

Most of the people here are decent. Don’t let the others get you down.

I’m not idolizing him. You know that was an idiotic comment but I think you’re ok with that. You just need to get your head around one serious fact: if the investigation does not come out with a significant amount of actual evidence to justify a two year smear campaign then a very serious crime against the entire democracy has been committed. Put your petty hatred aside and look at the big picture. This can happen to anyone if it’s happening with no evidence, and we’re being told that unrelated arrests are “evidence” domehow. That’s crap.

Bill c69 made it too easy to stop the pipeline process. Anyone has a beef, no matter how moronic, they get to be heard. The goalposts keep moving. Money just sits there waiting to be invested for so ling and then it goes away. The LNG pipeline in BC that’s on the news now was already approved. An elected chief gave the green light. Now there’s protesting going on. We now live in a society where almost any group of fifty people can veto any progress, even against the will of the majority of the country. It’s SJW heaven.

There’s divisiveness felt by a small fringe group of pro-terrorists. That’s it. But there are people like that in every country. Islamic extremists have sophisticated campaigns to attract hateful people who are at an impressionable age. People are easily programmable. There’s a Democrat saying “Never let a good tragedy go to waste”. If people die it’s a gun control issue or a rental van control issue. They just point the finger and yell insults really loudly and it works on young kids. In the same way the Republicans say “why was an illegal alien gang member let out of jail and back on the street instead of being deported? Now a [cop or young girl] is dead”. It’s too simple, too sensational. It’s a teensy part of the picture, not the main deal. In the same way muslims show people the horrors of the 70-year-old Palestinian refugee camps and they get all SJW inside. They want to prove so badly that they’re morally superior to everyone else and that’s stage 1 of their programming right there. It’s like they become vaccinated against facts at that point. Say to them “why are there still Palestinians in refugee camps after 70 years when tens of millions of other refugees re-settled in that time? Why is the population growing if it’s so bad”? They say you’re racist because they don’t have a good answer, and they think an angry insult trumps a reasonable question. Say “do you know that there are no Pakistani refugee camps because they just committed genocide against the other religions, and they used mass systemic rape on the ones that stayed behind to convert almost all of them. No one wants to come back” and somehow you’re a racist for sharing some facts with them. Say: “ if the Israelis get their way then both groups of people can live in peace. If hamas gets their way then all the Israelis will be dead” and they’re fine with the deaths of the Israelis because they are already programmed. Should the Israelis have done what Pakistan did, and just kill everyone within reach of their power? Would you be ok with them now, and calling people who were criticizing them racist, if they had just made a clean sweep 70 years ago? Eyeball: some people are shit. When religious people are shit, they’re shittier, because they have an irrational sense of justification. Races of people don’t treat each other like the Shia and Sunni, muslims and jews, irish catholic and protestant, etc. People still get upset about things that happened in the bible, like it just happened yesterday. Don’t listen to those people. If you look at the m.e. and take religion completely out of the equation your level of hatred will go down. You won’t even be able to comprehend what all the killing is about. It’s stupid. Only religious bigotry can make sense of it. I’d love for Canada to stay out of that region and let them have their religious wars all to themselves. Leave the Taliban be. Leave their people there to sort it out. No refugees allowed out. No aid going in. No soldiers helping either side. But eventually people will say we need to help Yemen. Then we’ll go help Yemen. Then in ten years people will say “The US went into Yemen because they just love killing muslims!!!!”. Screw it, right? No? I say we just stay out. We have plenty to deal with here.

Everything, but for now we're talking about the most heinous things to happen in the middle east in the last 65 years. If you want to refer to some lesser things then just don't be misleading.

You're completely wrong when you talk about "the worst things to happen in the middle east" but I don't think that you're being dishonest because I honestly believe that you don't have a clue.

Trudeau is killing coal fired electricity in Alberta and he's also out telling the world directly that the oil sands are being phased out (I can link that). The companies that were trying to get pipelines built have all taken their money elsewhere. Suffering? Alberta Oil was selling under $16 per barrel while the worldwide price is around $85. That's because our oil stays in Canada and the US, and the US doesn't need our oil imports. Getting 1/6th of what something is worth is a bit worse than just suffering.

What are some of the most heinous things that happened in the ME in the last 65 years? Are you talking about when Pakistan was formed, much in the same way as Israel, and then they committed genocide against the Hindus that were left there? Or maybe operation searchlight, when Pakistani militias raped about 300,000 women as part of an ethnic cleanse in Bangladesh? Do you know that Pakistan is still considered the world's worst oppressor of other religions? Google that stuff before you disregard it and call it "mumbo jumbo' like Monty does when he wants to ignore something. Just don't be afraid to learn something and spend ten minutes on Google. What dictatorships are people being forced to live under? Isil was a dictatorship but Trump sorta killed those guys. Where then? Saudi Arabia? Saudi Arabia isn't that great of a place if you're a woman. Did you see the girl on CBC of all places, last night? The one that wanted to get out of Saudi Arabia because she's an apostate and has legitimate fears of death at the hands of her own family members? Just like the girl that was dragged out of the Manilla airport by her uncles and then never heard from again.... Stop insinuating things about unnamed places and acting like you're educating us eyeball. Name some names, get pwned properly.

In the "Trudeau worst PM Ever" thread Montgomery said that the US had 9/11 coming. So the impression that you got was entirely accurate. Now the terrorist sympathizers are out promoting Trudeau and painting Scheer and the PCs as racists and greedy capitalists with no remorse. He was trying to get me banned or suspended for calling him a terrorist sympathizer but it doesn't work, because I just keep quoting the parts where he says the US had 9/11 coming to them.