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This is a byproduct of claiming to be all things to all people. Of course they will tell you that they can be, but if you review the policy decisions of the last year, and see how frequently they copy the last, evil government's policies, you quickly see how not only untrue that is, but how they never really meant to try. Considering there are some 190 conditions placed upon the construction of this project and the company interested isn't fully committed to it there is good chance it will never happen anyway, and this pipeline was the easy one.

Just stop, fyi, it's only in your own mind that you're winning.

There is honestly just no talking to you, you're another example of a liberal who simply does not care about anything but having liberals in power, simply by virtue of not having been in power for so long and not having had a chance to, or in fact having screwed up so many things makes anyone more credible than this government.

Same, and the new plan seems to be to make it worse with things like carbon taxes.

So yes, an obstacle, you have a real issue with the truth when it comes to this government, but no, I doubt that there would be any shovels in the ground regardless of who was in government, but Trudeau has certainly not helped.

Hey now, we can't decide if someone doesn't meet our standards like that, we have to wait for China to tell us what our standards are, why don't you understand this?

When you are agreeing to extradite people you have to already trust the receiving nation, it's a statement of trust, and we should all know that China isn't trustworthy.

O look, another non argument. You and smallc should put a travelling show together. The point is that China will do as it pleases and there is no reason to beleive what they tell us, either in order to get someone extradited or what will actually happen to them once they are, and it doesn't have to be the death penalty to make it unnaceptable. All we do know is that they in general do not have the same standards of criminal justice or punishment that we do, it's an insult to our system to even mention the two in the same sentence. Now, all of us here who aren't intent on childishly splitting every hair know this, it is fact, why you and your pal need to deflect away from the obvious with flippant remarks and red herrings is something for you to reflect on.

Post #13 from the, should we screen people thread, "Exactly what are Canadian values, and who gets to decide on them. Can we deport the home grown right wing nutcases that flunk the test?" Those are your words, so according to you we can't, based upon our seemingly non existent values, decide for ourselves who is allowed in our country, but we should take the word of a country with one of the worst records for human rights on the planet when they tell us, 'send us that person'. Maybe Chinese values are already our values, or perhaps considering their record, we shouldn't trust them, who knows what makes sense to people like you. We can't trust ourselves to decide who we want here, but we can trust the Chinese to tell us who we should send to them for who knows what kind of punishment, surely.

He was in office longer? yea, TEN TIMES longer, and the highest moving expenses I've seen so far belonged to Butts, go ahead and provide us with info that proves otherwise, 325k in ten years for all PMO staff vs 220k for two, in the first year, now staff in Dion's office are paying some back as well. what did the conservatives hide, the information has been released, again, you seem to have the real truth, so provide it. Here's the thing you don't seem to be able to understand, any defense of this is deflecting. What is the percentage of posts that you make that mention Harper? It's pathetic, on top of all of that, these guys, lead by Mr sunny ways were supposed to be better than the evil empire government you're still so hung up on, and these guys are worse. All you do is deflect.

And how can you take seriously any government that can't do better than this on such a serious subject.

Wait, when we are discussing what might happen in future as a result of a liberal treaty we can't speak in hypotheticals? How else should we talk about it? Of course the reality is that we do know that China doesn't have anywhere near the standards we do, and we also know that there is really no way for us to insure people aren't tortured once they are extradited, or that the evidence against them wasn't fabricated to begin with. Even the talking heads on the National this week were united in their belief that it's not possible to trust China, nor do we have any really good reason to even try when it comes to this. On top of the obvious, http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/dion-denies-extradition-treaty-negotiations-with-china/article32042048/ It seems that between Trudeau and Dion someone doesn't have the facts straight or is now embarrassed to admit to them. But here you are, and as usual, desperate to defend people who don't seem to know what they are doing on a subject that most don't seem to think is a good idea. You're in too deep now, that one thing is clear, you're doubling down on the embarrassment, it's time to fold.

Every comment on every subject, has nothing of value to add

You give basicaly the same answer every time this very new government screws up, it's infantile, it's boring, it's pathetic. Fyi, of the senate frauds, the worse by far was a liberal, or that Harper refused to approve Duffy's expenses, unlike Trudeau in this case, you forgot to mention that, but of course you're a hack, you aren't here to be serious. Also, it seems that in 10 years the conservative PMO approved 325k for moves, Trudeau approved 220k for only his two best and most important, litterally coudn't function without advisors, at least one of whom only moved 4 hours down the road. Do the math, and now a couple staffers in DIon's office are repaying tens of thousands as well, they must have heard they were next to be named. If you were capable of it, you would feel nothing but embarassment for trying to defend this.

Becoming more brainless by the minute, he is steering the ship, deny it with your continuously flippant, liberal hack comments all you like.

Surely, and now we have the former head of the WWF in charge of the nation, forcing carbon taxes upon us so some can feel good about themselves while nothing actually changes especially in light of our perhaps, maybe, reductions in GHG's that will amount to a completely irrelevant fraction of the yearly increase in global emissions, let alone the total. But hey, I guess that means more money in the bank for 127k moves 3 hours down the road. Pat yourself on the back, you're one of the 'good' guys.

Even if it was 50k in fees, another 50k to move 4 hours down the road? What was he moving, another whole house, the actual, physical house? Two years of Duffy for 90k that was paid back and this guy, charges us 100k to move a few hours down the road to a job he volunteered to do, he wasn't force transferred. It's ridiculous. This guy is a member of the far left intelligentsia, former head of the world wildlife fund, but considering his million dollar home, environmental activisim, aka, doing whatever you can to kill our economy, seems to pay pretty well. It's this guy who is writing the job killing pipeline and carbon tax polices for this country, some pigs surely are more equal than others. Everything about this government is the embodiment of hypocrisy.

So are we going to keep US wars deserters in the country. volunteers, who ran away, but extradite people the Chinese say are criminals? The Chinese who have no real standards of justice? What value is there in this for us?

When i go through a corporate move just about all of the costs associated with real estate are covered, and the moving costs, but those costs are astronomical, I moved a house full of stuff from the arctic to Ontario and it was a pittance by comparison.

In your desperation to defend those who are 'good for you', you are steadily becoming one of the biggest hacks on this site. We had years of angst and inquiries over sums that were paid back and less than some of these.

Did Harper represent himself as the complete opposite to the beleifs you claim he was supporting? This is truly very hard for some of you to grasp.

O get over yourself for one day, please tell us, who among us who wanted pot couldn't get it? You really don't have a clue how stupid that is do you?