WestCoastRunner

If you feel the need to respond to my posts, you should at least read the links I provided. A polite courtesy.

I see you didn't read the links.

It's not a myth according to those regions mentioned above as I quoted. Can you explain why they can't find workers?

We aren't talking about other business sectors. We are talking specifically about farm work. Where are the American workers lining up for these jobs when unemployment is so high and they can work for at least $10.00 an hour for these farmers and up to $15.00 or $20.00 an hour if they want to build up their skill. How many are 'some' American workers in the fields. Can you provide a number compared to the number of immigrants? I just don't follow your argument.

It was based on a very wealthy man's story. Of course it's a far cry from the norm. But that wasn't the point of the flick.

That may be true, but can you explain the farmers quoted in these articles who can't find American workers?

It was a very long movie so it was probably about 45 minutes before the ending. I saw another great flick on netflix, a film from France based on a true story. The Intouchables. A great flick for a Saturday night. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_intouchables/reviews/ 93% audience score. Be aware, there are subtitles.

You are not supposed to post that you reported someone. Those are the rules.

That's not exactly true. You can't compare working in the fields to working at fast food restaurants. The work is completely different and much harder in the fields for any kind of money. Farmers are willing to pay higher wages to attract workers but the fact remains that Americans don't want to do the hard work often in terrible weather conditions, long hours and long days and seasonal work. Farmers rely on these illegal immigrant workers to keep their businesses running. Pennysylvania farmers: "Fruit pickers in Adams County, who get paid according to how much they pick, commonly earn $14-$20 an hour. But it’s very hard work, he stresses, often done under uncomfortable conditions and on all days of the week. It also takes a lot of experience and skill to pick well enough to earn those wages. He says farmers advertise for local workers, but attract few applications. “Americans, for the most part, are not interested in doing this type of work,” he says. “They prefer to make less money and work in a fast food restaurant or a supermarket where the conditions are more comfortable.” North Carolina: In 2011, 245 people were hired out of 268 referred, but only 163 (66.5 percent) of the hired applicants actually showed up to the first day of work. Worse, only seven lasted to the end of the growing season. Nevada: Government data analyzed by The Associated Press show most Americans simply don't apply to harvest fruits and vegetables. And the few Americans who do usually don't stay in the fields. "It's just not something that most Americans are going to pack up their bags and move here to do," said farmer Steve Fortin, who pays $10.25 an hour to foreign workers to trim strawberry plants at his nursery near the Nevada border. Alabama: In Alabama, some 211,000 people are out of work. In rural Perry County, where Harvest Select is located, the unemployment rate is 18.2 percent, twice the national average. One of the big selling points of the immigration law was that it would free up jobs that Republican Governor Robert Bentley said immigrants had stolen from recession-battered Americans. Yet native Alabamians have not come running to fill these newly liberated positions. Many employers think the law is ludicrous and fought to stop it. Immigrants aren’t stealing anything from anyone, they say. Businesses turned to foreign labor only because they couldn’t find enough Americans to take the work they were offering.

An illegal operation? I don't follow?

Does shady need you?

Absolutely,let's deport them!

If you don't buy it then you haven't done enough research.

Why would you think this is a personal attack?

Since Shady doesn't have the balls to start a real thread on illegal workers in the U.S. I will start one here. California’s $43.5 billion-a-year farm industry depends on a shadow workforce of undocumented Mexican immigrants that’s eroding under economic improvements back home and tighter U.S. border controls. “These are jobs nobody else wants,” Salinas Mayor Joe Gunter, 66, said in an interview in his city hall office. “If you extract these folks that are undocumented, the industry would be devastated.” At stake for California, the largest agricultural-producing state, is a steady, trained workforce and production planning for farmers who supply the nation with almost half of U.S.-grown fruits, nuts and vegetables. For immigrants, it’s a higher standard of living, government-issued identification for bank accounts and driver’s licenses, and the power to report crimes such as robbery, car theft and sexual assaults without fear of deportation. We really need to move beyond these racial epithets that are thrown out against these workers who are simply doing the work that Americans don't want to do. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-08-14/california-s-43-billion-farms-see-labor-in-immigrant-fix

She was a child. There is no way she should have been held to her decision. Plenty of adults surrounded her and protected her from her right to the best medical care she could receive to allow her the chance to survive. She died because of the adults around her supporting her decision.

The decision of the parents and the courts had a direct effect on the child. She died when she quite possibly had a pretty good chance of surviving.

I watched Django. It was ok, probably too much hyped up which led to a bit of a let down. I agree Walz carried this film, however, when he faced his demise head on, it kind of fell apart.

It's not about the amount of land, it's about drilling in environmentally sensitive areas such as the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

I don't recall saying I supported exporting toxic coal to China. What does that have to do with this? Start a thread if you want to talk about exporting coal to China.

Yes, she went through chemo and suffered through it. Of course she suffered through it. It's chemo! At the time they withdrew from chemo, they had faith that their quackery treatment they headed for in the U.S. would cure her. I bet that if they and the child knew that she would die if she did not continue chemo and I mean 'really knew', they would have continued on with the chemo. The parents should be held accountable for her death. And has been mentioned earlier, if she were white, she may quite possible be alive today or had a pretty good shot at staying alive.

Right, get a passport if you want to come to Canada.