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So why is it so many Canadians can not see that, in fact according to a majority of them the Liberals have handled the pandemic fairly well. Are most Canadians blind to the real world ? or are we not as smart as we think we are ? being sucked down the leftist rabbit hole one by one, by our addiction to socialist programs..

“Appreciation of my work is much improved by drink.” - William S. Oftenwrong

No point wrastlin' pigs most times. You get durty n' the pig enjoys it! In other-words: Whose wife is hotter is a question that is unanswerable in this medium. This is the hill we're gonna die on Sargent?

Waitress??? A couple more for these two.

It's the old switcheroo in action. I accuse you of being guilty of that which in reality, I am guilty of. And another technique used to dupe the useful idiots, many of whom abound in political forums, is to couch an uncomfortable truth in some ridiculous and absurd lies. That way anyone who thinks of A can be accused of also thinking of B. You think Epstein ran a global pimp service for the top 1% of the world? = Q-Anon faggot

Well...he does tell one from the grave. One can hang one's self with toilet paper.

Thanks off the top! My political thinking has kept me moving more and more to the political left over the past 20 years. So, I am living disproof of that old Winnie Churchill's patronizing quote many years ago implying that socialist thinking is mostly youthful idealistic thinkiing....and you become a conservative when you have to go out on your own and earn a real living, and earn enough to support a family etc. etc.. Well in my life since turning 40, I've been moving the other direction. But, I think this has to do with taking note of the failed promises we were given after the Cold War was declared over and "a new world order" was replacing prior left/right ideologies, with some smeared liberal capitalism going global, along with trade, in a brand new peaceful world where every nation would enjoy "peace dividends" as all of us innate savages were forced to be peaceable with each other through mutual benefit of being so interdependent on each other for trade and commerce........how has that worked out btw?? So, I've studied Marxism in all its various forms to some degree, but I still don't know whether I can classify myself a Marxist, since Karl himself declared that future generations would have to finish his theory and adapt it to the whole range of conditions around the world. And most Marxists since, are academics who still haven't thought out just how vicious and desperate capitalists and their small armies of supporters dependent on capitalism will act to defend the system. Basically, it looks like they are willing to go out with a bang or a whimper, since the sociopaths with the most power don't care if we all go out with a flash or the slow dying of from environmental destruction! It's one thing to 'fight the system' when we deal with rational actors, BUT I don't believe the superrich today are at all rational! Their greed and obsession over measuring their billions they can never spend, means they have all the power and are willing to keep driving to extinction faster and faster these days! So, I wish I was more of an optimist, and I don't like telling younger people just how pessimistic I am about the future. Maybe something will change to make the picture look better, but I feel forced to be a realist about it and avoid talking about how I really feel most of the time when I'm around family or talking to friends....which I don't see too often now because of the pandemic.

Q has ALWAYS been more of the focus of the anti-Trumpers than actual Trumpers. No need for conspiracies. Trump 2020 was the message. Like yourself...not sure what it is supposed to be about. Pizza-Gate? Jeff Epstein & Clinton? Oddly, Argus likely can tell us...LOL.

Nice to see a thinking brain. I do have issue on this quoted bit. I say yes, because of exactly what you put. The tax system is what give the rich access to those who do the actual work. This follows from the fact that the only way to access or gain huge wealth, is to get it from taking advantage of either or both labor or the market place. The rich are so rich these days that these days are just another day in the life of the rich. That is why they are still just hording. If the rank and file do not care enough to act, against what the rich are doing, why should the rich? Regards DL

Joe Biden’s America.

This movie has become a demonstration to me of what happens when people finally see a disaster on the horizon. The attempts to stave it off were a study in human nature. Treat the symptoms not the root cause. Trying desperately to avoid the consequences of approving millions of mortgages for people that couldn't afford them. But it was inevitable, like the rising of the sun. People were going bankrupt at an alarming rate, and nothing, and I mean nothing, could be done about it. This kind of behaviour, trying to avoid the consequences after the fact, is simply what we do. The idiot drunk or texting driver that causes an accident and then flees the scene to avoid the consequences. The work place offender who immediately wants to go on stress leave after a racist tirade against Muslims(true story), or when they get caught stealing something. Human nature. Trying to avoid the chaos that you've caused by your own foolishness. It's as old as the sun. It's the wise person who has self control. That inner voice of reason that we decide to listen to instead of doing the dirty deed. That type of person is rare, though. They would take one look at the sub prime mortgage being offered, and say no, because they can't afford the payments when the discounted period ends, and have no guarantee that they'd be able to sell before then. Instead millions were crying and shrieking that it wasn't their fault as they went bankrupt. The bank was to blame. The politicians were to blame. The market was to blame, anything to avoid taking responsibility for signing on the dotted line. They went bankrupt anyway, by the millions. Human nature. It's time to start listening to that inner voice.

Q

You are presenting a defeatist excuse to do nothing when there is a very large problem to solve. Reality is: when you provide subsidies, those given the privilege to exploit it will do so. True in ag, industry and of course - information. State-owned media ANYWHERE on this planet ranges from a little bit biased (BBC, al Jazeera) to somewhere in the middle (CBC) to the absolute extreme (Pravda...now VGTRK and CCTV - plus most of everything else in China). Just because we haven't reached the extreme of genuine dictatorships there is no excuse for us to tolerate this half-measure that pukes away tax dollars at a staggering rate. I agree as to the issue of other lobbies being able to control information. The whole dotcom billionaire into social media information gateways is a perfectly good example. The solution to that has far more to do with how we manage our economy (the economic ability to GET into this position is a result of believing the wealth re-distribution of speculative gain is a legitimate way to manage an economy...and it is very much NOT and results in concentrations of unearned wealth into idle, non-productive - in fact predatory - hands).

Not any more....fiscal conservative dinosaurs like me have to face political reality, and take advantage of the public and private debt orgy...which is exactly what I am doing. The banks pay me now.

1. Pretty much EXACTLY how the Communist Broadcasting Corporation works now. Before you get all wound up over the semantics: it is state owned and spews endless propaganda and pure BS. Glasnost and Perestroika have not touched it at all, yet. 2. The alternative is obvious: an actual free and independent press, 100% prevented from taking ANY kind of revenue from government sources. Easy thing to do. Report of public service announcements, interview politicians, but ZERO funding in ANY form allowed. Yes, that starts with disbanding the CBC or trying to sell it off to an independent buyer. I am still PO'd big time that Harper did not do this. I will grant you that the Post the the Glob and Knob once in a while gets things right, but I have also been deeply involved with a very important story decades ago that they got 100% wrong (most by listening to the Manchester Guardian instead of bothering to verify the facts of the story). I blame that more on the Toronto elitist attitude that discounts the ROC completely.

Inflation has remained very modest by historical terms, and near zero interest conditions will persist for several more years. Central banks actually strive to keep inflation in a 2% - 3% band as a matter of monetary policy. I for one would welcome much higher interest rates....reward the savers...punish the debtors. My first home had a mortgage at 12.5%, and passive investment products paid much more handsomely than today. Canada has already faced the abyss back in the 1990's (Canadian peso days) compared to U.S. dollar hegemony. Chretien and Martin drastically cut spending...not politically possible under current circumstances. Europe has also rejected post Great Recession "austerity" measures.

You tell me! How many? Before checking, I'd wager very, very few longshoremen would be getting paid $60 per hour! If that's even close to top rate.....and in a union shop also! And I'm figuring there are not very many young men hired anymore to do the grunt work on the docks, because........so many cargo ships today are container ships. The most efficient setup is to have containers offloaded by a crane operator who can drop each container on a railway flatbed or truck flatbed trailer. Not many hands are needed anymore at shipyards anywhere in the world these days. That's another example of how high tech and automation have mostly served to eliminate jobs. And if the crane operator gets paid $60 an hour, that might be more plausible! Now, with the declining number of jobs, having a union is extra important, because if the union has any clout, they can protect senior employees from being fired when there's no work for them. Better if the employer has to take some responsibility for looking after the welfare of their employees, instead of focusing solely on executive salaries and stock compensations! Everything's expensive in NYC! So, I wouldn't expect schools to come cheap either. Certainly private schools don't! It's your value judgment that NY teachers are overpaid; but if they live in New York, a teacher can't afford to live on the same salary as a teacher in West Virginia! Schools falling apart, is the fault of the city and state governments.....and possibly the feds....depending on what the Dept. of Education is kicking in after four years of having a patronage appointment in charge whose only concern was expanding her own family's chartered schooling empire! When it's all said and done, after the failures of unbridled capitalism over the past 40 years, you rightwingers have an even steeper hill to climb to try to make your case that 'unions are greedy' while business owners are self-starting, unselfish 'job creators!'

Changing street names because somebody gets butt hurt is a waste of tax dollars.

At least I know what side I'm on.

Most Canadians pay little attenton to the news or to politics. All they really know is they're being paid a lot of money and that makes them happy. It's like health care. Health care has been bad for decades, but nobody cared enough to make it an election issue. Now people are whining because LTC homes are crowded and there aren't enough doctors. But that's been the very obvious case for decades without them saying a thing about it. People cared more about Trudeau legalizing pot than the state of our health care system. Same goes for provincial elections. We haven't built a new hospital in thirty years and people can spend months if not years trying to find a family doctor but no one cared enough that it became an election issue.

Someone who names themselves oftenwrong saying other people are wrong?

Inspiration? Its a little old thing called history. You wouldnt know being a blighter

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelsandler/2021/01/21/did-biden-break-campaign-promise-on-fracking-no-heres-why/?sh=6ea7846775a2 More slants from the enemies of "fake news" Yawn.

The whole race-baiting & Nazi/Commie thing is the most disturbing. It's a form of dehumanization...easier to hate the enemy stuff. Both sides are guilty...however the MSM & Social Media are doing it on behalf of the political left making it very pervasive. The left don't mind if you're called a Nazi...but dislike being compared to Nazis themselves...heaven forbid. Being...you know...ANTIFASCISTS...heh. What did Churchill* say about the next Nazis? Is that glass breaking?? Globalists...we're surprised that sie wollen die Welt übernehmen. Pardon...they want to take over the world. * Or Huey Long or whomever...

FOX is the most biased news show on television, barring one of those far right outfits we don't get in Canada. I've been decrying the liberal bias in the mainstream media for a long time, longer than you've been here, but even I can't stand FOX most of the time because they slant the news so blatantly. You hate the mainstream news and CNN because they're biased but adore FOX because their bias is the same as yours.

https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-karen-mcdougal-case-tucker-carlson-2020-9 Their legal defence was quite literally "we are fake news" ?

Betsy, you are asking fools and mockers to have discernment they simply do not have. As this thread clearly illustrates, they are only capable of arguing and babbling nonsense.

You think understanding social media is a major qualification for leadership?

A lot of people seem to have seen something in Trump they really, really hoped was real, but never was. They wanted a straight talking guy who would address the longstanding grievances and issues that were ignored by the 'coastal elites' and ignore all the corrupt lobbying and insider deal making. A guy who was like them, not some highly educated snob who looked down at them because they didn't have the proper, politically correct values. They wanted it so badly they made themselves believe Trump was that guy. Only he never was. He was a fraud artist, a con man, a liar born with a silver spoon in his mouth who figured there was a sucker born every minute and he could profit by taking advantage of them.

It'll turn out to be another group funded by big public sector unions. Their only purpose is to keep the flow of big raises flowing into their pockets and to prevent any government from cutting spending for any reason. Saying they're there to counter some piddling little conservative group when 95% of third party spending is done by the Left - ie, public sector unions, is on par with the truthfulness of the rest of their message.

Honestly, do you even need to ask that question? Who is prospering right now during the pandemic, and who is struggling to survive? NO, it's a condition imposed by the rich who live off of investment wealth and business income rather than earned income. The rich buy the political influence to rewrite the tax code and business rules. Not the people who have to do the actual work to keep the economy running! No doubt! And it seems to me that right from the start, all of the politicians, bureaucrats and investment gurus keep underestimating the size, scale and length of time these waves of infection last! Now, we may have arrived at a time in history when we will have to deal with one major infectious outbreak after another.....just like the last time everyone was prospering, becoming 'enlightened' and trade was becoming globalized. That being around the 13th to 14th century. The waves of Black Death or Bubonic Plague sure took care of the globalization problem back then! Right again! A number of infectious disease experts have been saying that massive clear-cutting of tropical forests and factory farming have not only sped up the ongoing extinctions of many animal species, but over-reliance on antibiotics and anti-viral drugs are having less and less effect as we encroach further and further into rainforests and pick up diseases that are able to mutate and infect humans. And the problem with a viral pandemic is that viruses mutate too fast to deal with by vaccine development when millions of people become infected in a short time.

Well, Ontario was already in deep doo-doo even before the pandemic..being the world's largest sub-sovereign debtor at more than $300 billion and growing. And the kicker is that for all this added debt in Canada, many capital, defence, and infrastructure needs will still go lacking. At least the Americans and several other nations are getting more stuff for their spending...more defence procurement, space exploration, R&D, electric vehicle production, fossil fuels and renewables, and healthcare without long wait listing. Canada has a skinny federal government, deferring much to the provinces, so such large federal deficits are that much more remarkable.

That's a great point. People are not recognizing these significant changes under Trump. We are instead being bombarded with total BS tabloid news instead, that seeks to demonize the man. It's absurd because it is so extreme. But then, that's how a lot of things are becoming now. The pressure and threat of war is what maintains final authority over us. You cannot have a war unless you have a government with total authority. War is the yoke the elite place upon us to keep us so that they will have complete authority.