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Agreed. It's time for the conspiracy types to ramp-up their game. The Twin Towers and WTC 7 (sinister music plays) are actually on the Moon and now occupy the very same spots claimed to be Lunar landing sites.

Not me, I'm creeping DoP up and GS down. It seems like someone noticed and is countering my up votes. I guess it is a new month and maybe I should change my policies.

Tanker's choice during WW2. Made the (relatively small) 2-pounder a killer in the desert. Rhenium has one of the highest melting points and is useful in things like rocket nozzles, etc. A tad expensive...heh. Very rare.

Why would you need a link, you are the one that brought up the comment about NIST and free fall. Obviously you have the link already. As I stated, it is on page 40 & 41 of the report, that would be section 3.6. In the FAQ it is #11. What clearer citation do you need?

No, i pulled it out of the NIST report you are citing. Did you even read the report, or are you just repeating stuff you read on conspiracy sites?

You are the one quoting NIST, obviously you have the source to be quoting - page 40 & 41. Read it, the details are there as well as in the FAQ they created in 2011 (update 2012). Concerning you blowing up the towers theory, how long did it take to rig the explosives in these 3 towers?

No. So you're saying no aircraft were involved in 9-11?

Points only matter if they translate into gift certificates....like a game show. Otherwise...want one?

Agreed...no need to spend experienced foreign service on Canada. Trudeau prefers to beg for Trump's attention directly anyway.

Where do you get the 10 seconds from, did you have some special camera that saw through the massive debris cloud?

Yet another out of context quote. Yes, there was a period of near free fall for a part of the structure after lower support columns buckled out of the way and then when more resistance was encountered things slowed down again. The examination of video showed that the 18 story part of the structure that was visible in the building was 40% slower than free fall.

Matthew Fisher has always been one of my favorite columnists. His take on Sweden is that things are not going well there at all. The Swedes have not been able to assimilate the Muslims who came there, and those Muslims do not consider themselves Swedish. I spent a lot of time in Sweden in my twenties and was back there again twice in the past 15 months. Things are definitely not going well in that once famously progressive and tolerant society. I was thunderstruck to see that Malmo, the city I know best, is beset today with raw ethnic tensions between what Quebecers might call “Old Stock Swedes” and newcomers, especially from Iraq and now Syria. The shift in mood and outlook in Malmo has been profound. Old friends there told me there are districts in the city where they now seldom venture. They feel uncomfortable and unwelcome because Arabic and Islamic dress and culture predominate. And the newcomers told me exactly the same thing about how they felt when they left their neighbourhoods. http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/matthew-fisher-trump-was-wrong-on-the-details-but-right-about-problems-in-sweden

I'm now leaning towards Bernier. He is a Conservative.

WHOAAAA! I like what Bernier is saying regarding immigration, and foreign policy: http://www.maximebernier.com/canada_s_immigration_policy_must_aim_to_fulfill_our_economic_needs http://www.maximebernier.com/foreign_policy_focused_on_the_security_and_prosperity_of_canadians

I saw part of the debate last night. Indeed, the format was poor. But that doesn't excuse O'Leary from missing it. I want to know more about Leitch.......... and Bernier.

Hillary tried to rig the election. The media then turned it around and voila...Hillary was off the hook. Did you forget? Nah...you didn't forget.

No, if anything he just rigged it.

Trump never promised election reform like somebody else in North America.

An empty promise of security and prosperity for all. Oh well,m it's not like the bar for yet another Trump speech was very high going in and Congress sounded like a typical crowd of cheering rubes. The widows and orphans were a nice touch.

Yes, listen to your team and stick to the script.

Yes, I saw a documentary on it a couple of weeks back. Very nice ship.

Some will expand their operations, some will hoard the money saved through lower taxes and others will reward their shareholders. Who knows. Yet what we know for sure is that what politicians say when they want to win power doesn't always translate in the real world.

Trump is wearing a blue tie, what does that mean?

That's very exotic steel, of course. Full of all sorts of atomic goodies like vanadium to avoid being brittle.

We live in a nation were we have access to world class education, health care, access to the free market to purchase anything your imagination can think of. I can get a burger in under 5 minutes, or a 15 course meal. we can raise our kids in almost complete safety, we have plenty of job opportunities, our standard of living is second to none.....And with all that there is..... still some saying we can not share any of that, we can not use our resources to maybe change some of that.....because it is dumb and wasteful....

Indeed, as structural ferrous metals are routinely preheated before welding to slow joint cooling, prevent brittle fracture, and reduce shrinkage stress. Submarine hull cuts (HY-80 and HY-100 steel) are welded closed using bodacious electric strip heaters around the welded joint.

Now in regards to conspiracies, any conspiracies including the one resurrected yet again on 9-11 I refer to this quote from, https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/suspicious-minds/201510/the-psychology-conspiracy-theories which states: “..conspiracy theories tap into some of our deepest desires, fears, and assumptions about the world, and resonate with our brain’s built-in quirks and foibles. In proposing that events are carefully controlled from behind the scenes, for example, conspiracy theories fit neatly with the intentionality bias (link is external)—our tendency to assume that ambiguous events happened on purpose. By explaining significant events as the result of grand conspiracies, they tap into our assumption that big events have big causes (link is external). And by ceaselessly connecting otherwise unrelated dots, they satisfy our never-ending quest (link is external) to explain what’s happening in the world around us.” I add my two cents and state conspiracies replace religion as the new religion of today. They create meaning and intelligent behaviour from what otherwise appears to be chaos. In the past this is what religion did. It provided explanations to fill in the gaps and offer understandable explanations for that which would otherwise be unexplainable. We used these explanations to calm us down and make us less fearful of the unknown. It was not that long ago we humans who remain primates, homo sapiens were petrified of the dark, reptiles (dinosaurs) spiders, snakes, any animal that was perceived as a predator or lethal. Some of us still carry these primal fears. Fear of snakes, spiders, darkness, height, those who look diferent in physical characteristic (different fur colour or spots or stripes) all can be related back to our basic ape or primal behaviour. Some of us are still more primal than others particularly in regards to following alpha males, going into heat (mating, marrying) and engaging in war, rape, violence. Now that religion is not as strong as it once was being eroded steadily by science giving explanations for those things which once seemed like acts of God, some people still need to fill in the gaps. Their knowledge of science is not enhanced. They may have never studied science or have limited education. They are bombarded each day by their cell phones and internets with a non stop stream of information their brains struggles to make sense of. Its not a coincidence the head-line of this thread by the 9-11 conspiracy provider depicts a world out of control, a threatening world. Conspiracy theorists tend to see the world as chaotic and to make it seem less chaotic they give it rational form through conspiracies that take what is otherwise jagged, disjointed and hard to understand tasks and presto turn them into cause and effect explanations. Interestingly there are now no shortage of theories on the psychology of conspiracies, conspiracy theorists and the role they play in replacing religion as a non fact, faith based script to sooth we primates. Specifically there were studiesconducted at the University of Westminster in London England, that examined traits associated with those who believe in 9-11 conspiracy theories in the U.K. Now keep in mind this was only done by studying British citizens but id did find these characteristics which I would go so far s to state pretty much apply to all conspiracy theorists: cynical and distrustful of authority, politics; 2-mistrusting of authority; 3-endorsing of democratic practices; feeling generally suspicious towards others, and 4-displaying an imaginative and inquisitive outlook. I agree with other psychologists who found these traits in most conspiracy theorists: 1-a need to explain things; 2-anxiety raised when things are not in order, do not make sense, can not be quickly controlled or understood; 3-rigid in belief, i.e., find it difficult to see more then one possible explanation at a time for any one event; 4-prone to using labels and stereotypes; 5-fearful of crowds, large events and gatherings, crowds, noise, things appearing large and dangerous;6-perfectionists; 7-find it difficult to let go of insults, imagined slights, jokes at their expense; 8-more likely to be clean than dirty and be aware of germs, diseases; 9-feeling unappreciated invisible, under-utilized; 10-more likely to be middle children that first or last borns. Now interestingly the above could describe anyone on this forum especially the moderators so I would not draw any conclusions but I do think myself conspiracies are an attempt to make that which causes stress because it appears uncontrollable, controllable so the stress can be defused. I would argue conspiracies are an anti-anxiety agent serving the same purpose as Lorazepam or Valium or Ativan. Think about it when you take the conspiracy prescription, if you digest it then: 1-now you know what others can not 2-now you understand what others can not 3-now you can see, hear, smell, taste, touch, feel what others can not 4-you now can figure out patterns from what once seemed like thousands of pieces in a jigsaw puzzle; and most importantly 5-you can identify and ally with the others in the know and those not in the know . It appeals to those who like joining clubs and feeling their club gives them special things people outside the club don't get. Now instead of flying economy you go first class. For someone who feels underappreciated, misunderstood, unimportant, plain, a loser, it gives them a reason to feel good about themselves. Many people join cult groups which recruit and control by assuring each member subscribes to the particular conspiracy theories of that group and gives unquestioned loyalty to that group and its beliefs. So for me I say debunk the myths if possible using logic and rational thought but be gentle. If that is possible. I sure as hell can get grumpy about it with some. Otherwise look at it like this many people ridicule the concept of alien species outside our planet. Without proof they refer to all references to it as craziness. I keep an open mind. When I was young I had a lot of very interesting times investigating old homes for paranormal activities with rational scientist types using a Geiger counter, gauges to test for methane and other gases, geologists measuring radiation emission and so on. Not everything we saw can be explained. If I told you some people can see and talk to spirits many of you would call that crazy without scientific proof. I won't try convince you some people use parts of their brain that allow them to perceive things or do things others can't and so what appears to be reality for one may not be for another. For years many schizophrenics said they needed to wear tin foil to keep out harmful rays being beamed into their brains and would chain smoke cigarettes. Everyone just assumed this was part of their being crazy, Now studies show may schizophrenics very vulnerable to migraines brought on my microwaves, raditation emissions from rocks pushing together, high voltage wires. Interestingly tin foil deflects microwaves. As for nicotine, we now know it weakens or quietens down the hallucination intensity or loudness of voices in the head and its being considered now as a possible agent to add to certain medications. All I am saying is keep an open mind. God knows I try until I come on this forum. I am not sure how many times I have to explain to you the Dracos are already hear and working with the Greys and other species to take over the planet.

Ok I know what it is.

Tungsten's pretty good stuff as well!

On the contrary. You are embarrassing yourself here. There will be nothing found on Trump that the the liberal media and the democrats are hoping will be found. The liberal media and the democrats keep always bringing up Trump and Russia gate but yet there has been nothing proven so far. So quit dreaming, Trump will be Americas president for the next eight years because the people want him there to help clean out the swamp of the liberal lying losers, and democrat liars, and those zionist globalists who have been trying to destroy America for decades now. It's amazing as to why the lying liberal media and the democrats cannot accept their defeat.And the sad part is that they have said that these constant attacks on Trump will go on until they can get something on Trump. It is said that when an honest person tries to tell the truth the controlled establishment media will be set upon them like a pack of wolves to ridicule, attack and made a fool of until that person has no credibility left anymore. Then it is up to the people to decide as to why this person is being so viciously attacked, and not just accept the medias side of the story only. So many good and honest people have been destroyed by the lying media. The main scream media cannot be trusted anymore for the true and real facts. It is up to the people to check out the facts for themselves, and not just take another person/s or medias word for it. Trump is not being given a chance. He is a threat to the elite globalist establishment, and they will do whatever they can to try and destroy Trump by using their media controlled so-called honest to goodness reporters. LOL.

I'm from Missouri! ...being the rest of the statement.

Ah yes, those famous two words(racist/hate)are always banded about and thrown at people by liberals to whom they do not like. Your liberal intolerant and bigoted colors are really starting to show. Those two words may shut down cowards who are not willing to stand up for their beliefs and will succumb to the attacks by the liberals towards them but they will certainly not work on real true conservatives who will take those words throw them in their soup and eat them up, and dump them in the proper time. Those two words are becoming oh so passe.

I wonder where that plaque that Harry Truman had that said "The buck stops here"? Obviously it is not in the current Whitehouse.

You also prefer war heroes that weren't captured?

Yeah, right. And all the terribly misled western posters on all the forums across the western nations would be screaming, "I told you so, I told you so, they can't be trusted, watch out! they are there to kill infidels, Islam is a religion of violence, blah blah blah." Sixty five years ago, it was the same thing, just take out Muslims/Islam/... and stick in 'commies/communists/reds/... .

HAHA-very funny to say Harper started a media war! Media spent years whining about his alleged "hidden agenda"-the one that never materialized! Balancing the govt books and maintaining Cdn security in the face of Muslim terror is not some sort of dirty secret. If we want to conitnue having an open border and good trade between Canada and U.S. then we MUST recognize Yankee security concerns! With 3000 dead in the ruins of World Trade Centre they are entitled to be nervous! The only "agenda" I have seen is the one where liberals demonize ALL Conservatives! How is it that Conservatives can be smeared for making senators Wallin and Brazeau pay back money that Consevative party feels was used wrongly and for suing senator Mike Duffy for refusing to pay back his carelessly spent share? While at the same time both media and liberals IGNORED that liberal senator MacDonald Harb who had mis-used MORE money than Wallin, Brazeau and Duffy COMBINED! Talk about hiding an agenda! Talk about biased reporting! But then liberal values are such that they were probably appalled by the idea of a political party taking real responsiblity-as Conservatives did- for anything! And liberals were absolutely horrified at the idea of actually paying tax payers back for money mis-used! Our Media promoted liberal propaganda-such as alleging Harper was "muzzling" Cdn scientists-reality is he was simply preventing them from insulting and reviling Conservative party on govt time! Civil servants do not care about politics-their ONLY concern is their oh so comfortable place on what Rob Ford rightly called the govt gravy train! Many civil servants see nothing wrong with using their time at work for what amounts to very partisan union business-which means disputing and smearing views that are counter to their own greedy and narrow self interests. Civil servants are demanding raises in pay and massive new funding for their already gold plated pensions while significant numbers of older Cdns cannot find the cash to purchase the medical drugs they have been prescribed! Civil service/liberal values and entitlements are way out of line-and they want to blame their greed on Harper-with media aid! And media only cares about regaining viewers and readers. Ad revenue for conventional main stream media is fading like snow in July so they are desperate to attract people-hence their willingness to cater to any point of view that gets them attention-regardless of truth about "hidden agendas"! This is why our vaunted CBC started to mock the liberal electoral reform plan-Cdns recognized electoral reform as a vote rigging scam-and CBC did not want to be on the wrong side of that fight with so much hostile public opinion -so they joined other media and mocked the badly biased liberal effort to fragment and break up our parliament. By breaking our parliament into a mass of small, one issue parties, liberals figured they could paralyze parliament and ensure that no single party could gather enough power in future to shut off the mad liberal spending machine. Fortunately CBC recognized they might be on the wrong side of that argument and did the right thing-for once!

These are not "ordinary people". They are severely brain washed people, also something that should never happen in the "free, open and honest" western nations, where discussion and debate is in their blood, their genetic makeup.

It's highly revealing that a lady from Turkey knows "these things" and "more", but the well informed westerners, with the greatest news media on the planet know next to nothing, except for what they have been told, by, of course, their world class media.

Europe is starting to resist! The ground is shifting! https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/explainers/understanding-migration-and-asylum-european-union Which is why all Conservative leadership candidates who still buy into this open borders propaganda - have all missed the boat! They're all busy trying to pander to liberal mindsets! They're all cowards - they aren't willing to stick out their necks proposing sensible policy that's based on SHEER COMMON SENSE! It's up to us conservatives to set things right! Give a message, loud and clear to these self-serving candidates!

It refers to the US's plan that was already in place before the false flag event of 9-11 to invade seven countries in five years. General Wesley Clark: Wars Were Planned - Seven Countries In Five Years

Yup, I doubt Trump's team has much time or patience for any snowflakes. Was this McMaster a draft dodger or something? He should probably be sent to a re-education camp or pushed out of an airplane or something.

With no disclosed evidence - big, big difference.

I'll be there with my shovel when the call to arms comes.

The title is quite wide open, but the OP does narrow the subject some. I agree that my last 2 posts were a bit outside the scope of this topic, so I posted another one in a status update but it appears nobody caught on to it (ski vacation). Neither of the 2 other threads that Charles suggested however are appropriate for the posts either, so perhaps we need a thread on Trump the man(?) and another on the Trump Empire.

Can you provide clearer guidelines as to what topics concerning the U.S. and Trump don't fall under the topic "America under Trump"?

Countries interested in ending the conflict, and sick of wasting their time on it... decade after decade after decade. G8 nations would be a good start I guess. Im not sure what the totals are but I know its hundreds of millions, or billions. And I would support paying a lot more if it was a regime like the one I described where they only get paid for results. No, the US obviously has a large interest in not allowed "Conflict: DirtFarm" to entanble them in a regional conflict that would cost the US hundreds of billions or more. But other countries have a significant stake in ending the conflict as well. Those idiots over there waste an awfull lot of the worlds time and money, and they will go on doing it for centuries if we dont figure something out. And the US is already financing peace between Israel and Egypt to the tune of billions of dollars a year, so the rest of the west should step up and get out their checkbooks.

The more I think about this, the more evident it becomes that this is pretty much the only chance we have of helping to resolve "Conflict: Dirt farm". I mean, we have been asking these people to act civilized towards one another for decades and time after time we have been told to go piss up a rope. Lets remove all ongoing western aid to both sides, and then essentially give jews and arabs a lucrative contract to act civilized to each other. Offer them insane ammounts of money to not be dicks to each other. For example... instead of asking Israel to halt illegal settlment building you pay them to do it. "For each year that goes buy where a settlement is not built we will pay you 10 billion dollars". For each illegal settlement you dismantle we will pay you a billion dollars." "We'll install 50 billion dollars worth of desalination plants if you start turning over the control of water resources in the west bank over to palestinians so that they can grow food." And instead of asking the Palestinian authority to prevent violence and rocket attacks... "Well give you a billion dollars for each month that goes by without attacks against jews on Israel proper, or other infringements on the security of Israels legally recognized borders." "And well give the PA another 5 billion dollars if they write full recognition of Israels right to exist into their charter, and another billion dollars per year that they keep it there." Like we saw with insurgents in Iraq... even people acting out of hatred and religiously motivated violence will behave if you pay them enough. Its the same strategy that worked with Israel and Egypt. The problem of course is that it gets expensive, and you have to keep paying pretty much forever to keep the parties in the desired mode of behavior. But on the other hand those idiots and their pathetic struggle already cost us untold billions, and risk dragging us into a greater regional conflict that would cost the west hundreds of billions or even trillions. So we would probably save money! The beauty of this is that once we essentially become benefactors that finance a much improved standard of life for the people on both sides, we basically become their employers, and we can keep those hopeless idiots OUT of any planning. All that would be required is for western nations to sit down together and come up with a list of behaviors that would be conducive to peace, and figure out how much of a bounty we are willing to pay for each one.