A Proposal for Firearms Legislation in Canada

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

That's a problem, to the majority of Canadians they are eating up the shit that the liberals are putting out, they have convinced Canadians that something needs to be done, like the climate change emergency they declared. why is that a problem well it influences Canadian voters, they look like they are doing something, but in reality, they are taking legal gun owners' weapons. 

The most common response I get is what do you need a weapon for anyways? they don't understand i use my rifles as tools, i hunt, and use it to protect myself and my family from wildlife. But because the majority of Canadians live in the cities they don't care, and quickly agree with the government.

 I get the semi-auto thing I was looking for caliber. 

We already have some of the most restrictive firearms policies in most of the western world. And really don't need anymore. Everyday legal gun owners are checked for breaking any laws, plus have their health records checked for any red flags. And legal gun owners rarely commit violence with their firearms. Illegal's gun owners, on the other hand, like shooting people, and yet the government decides to place more regulation on legal gun owners, and disregard for the most part the illegal owners. because it is cheaper, and it looks good that don't know much about guns. 

the thing now is the mass shooter

it's like the onset of serial killers in the 1970's

serial killers aren't that shocking now

but back in the 1970's they were a new threat which the public became hysterical about

so the public is freaking out now about the mass shooter armed with the automatic rifle

that is the mass hysteria of today

the odds of being killed by a mass shooter are extremely low

but odds don't matter when every mass shooter is sensationalized by the media

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

So what, once that is done all you have to do is pull the trigger each time. These guys go out and can buy an AR-15 and two hours later it is rapid fire against a bunch of people. It can't be that difficult.

Nothing they can't learn from a couple of YouTube videos.

But you can't buy 30-round mags in Canada, that have not been pinned so you can only hold 5 bullets. so any semi-auto that is magazine feed has the same capacity. The AR-15 is designed for the civilian population, it does not have full auto.

There is an extensive background check required just to get your pal, which includes in-depth interviews of your records plus all those references from people you provided, any red flags along the way, and your denied. Red flags mean any crimes involving domestic abuse, firearm related or any red flags on the medical or mental health side all means that will result in denial.

Any firearm can be deadly, I have a 303 lee Enfield bolt action and have fired 12 rounds a minute with a 5-round mag at targets between 100 and 200 meters and not missed. This means it is not how fast you can shoot it is how accurate you can shoot, most of mass shootings in the states have hundreds of rounds of fire, and very few people are killed.

One could do more damage with a shotgun than any AR. 

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

WTF does this have anything to do with the military?

are you finally going to remember what automatic weapons fire is actually useful for, next time it comes up?

or are you going to keep going on about how it turns mass shooters using AR-15's into killing machines with no training?

Edited July 31, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

7 minutes ago, Aristides said:

WTF does this have anything to do with the military? What percentage of mass shootings are done with bolt action long guns compared to semi automatic weapons?

the vast majority of criminal shootings in Canada are with neither

the handgun is the mass killing weapon in Canada

the Austrian Glock, called a "Glizzy" on the street, being the criminal weapon of choice

Edited July 31, 2022 by Dougie93

[Aristides]

11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the vast majority of criminal shootings in Canada are with neither

the handgun is the mass killing weapon in Canada

the Austrian Glock, called a "Glizzy" on the street, being the criminal weapon of choice

Gang shootings are mostly with handguns. Semi auto handguns like the Glock. 

Mass shootings of innocent people are mostly with semi auto long guns, not bolt action long guns or handguns.

 

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Mass shootings of innocent people are mostly with semi auto long guns, not bolt action long guns or handguns.

I have such a minimal chance of being a victim of a mass shooting, I don't worry about it

the odds of me being killed in a car accident are exponentially greater

it's the media inciting hysteria, and inciting copy cat mass shootings, which is causing you to freak out about it

but in terms of my chances of being shot in the GTA

the Glizzy is the main threat by far

most probably in the crossfire, downtown around the Eaton Centre

Edited August 1, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

I have already been shot at twice in Toronto

with a automatic handgun at Dundas & Sumach

and with some sort of rifle while on the streetcar at Parliament & Gerrard

and I have had guns pulled on me on three other occasions

once was at a house party in Flemmo, with an AK-47

another was at Caribbana, I got into some road rage argument with an American with Michigan plates

he pulled a 1911 on me, I capitulated on the spot of course

and outside the Sweetwater nightclub on Eglinton

 I got into it with with a Yardie, and he flashed a revolver to scare me off

so again, the criminal shooting threat to me has always been random contact on the streets of Toronto

ultimately, I just put my faith in the Lord

fear no man, only God

 

[Dougie93]

I'm not spooked by weapons, guns are just a tool

 I take the approach that you are the weapon system

the human weapon system

the material weapons, whether melee or firearm

are simply extensions of your resolve to close with and kill the enemy

the key is repetition, repetition, repetition

you go through the motions over & over & over

until it becomes instinctive

that is how you overcome fear

it becomes reflex, second nature, so there is no tine to feel trepidation

let the adrenaline dump, use that as energy, focus it along the axis of advance

the way to survive a contact is not to back away

the way to survive is to attack into the threat

limit the time & space in the kill zone

run to the sound of the guns

maximum speed, violence & aggression

and that is all compartmentalized

break glass in case of war

then just relax in the saddle, trust in the Lord

Edited August 1, 2022 by Dougie93

[August1991]

On 7/31/2022 at 8:03 AM, Dougie93 said:

DC v. Heller states  "arms" suitable only for self defense and common use

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Uh?

The amendment to the US constitution clearly refers to a "well-ordered militia".

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I'm waiting for Kavanaugh's strict reading/interpretation.

Edited August 2, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

Sorry for thread drift.

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My OP is about Canada and how Canadians use/regulate guns.

How Americans use guns (foolishly in my mind) is a topic for another thread.

[Yzermandius19]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

Uh?

The amendment to the US constitution clearly refers to a "well-ordered militia".

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I'm waiting for Kavanaugh's strict reading/interpretation.

the amendment refers to the people's right to keep and bear arms

it doesn't authorize the well regulated militia to infringe on the people's rights

it just says a well regulated militia is necessary to security of a free state

if they wanted to make the right all about the militia 

they would have said the right of the militia to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, not the right of the people

Edited August 2, 2022 by Yzermandius19