Leafless Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 Surprise, surprise. "Don't ask, don't tell", homosexuality is a mental disorder in the U.S military says Pentagon. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6061901026.html Quote
Leafless Posted June 20, 2006 Author Report Posted June 20, 2006 I've always had an inkling that could be the case. Quote
Riverwind Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 "Don't ask, don't tell", homosexuality is a mental disorder in the U.S military says Pentagon.I don't think that the US military is qualified to make such a claim. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Melanie_ Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 "It is disappointing that certain Department of Defense instructions include homosexuality as a 'mental disorder' more than 30 years after the mental health community recognized that such a classification was a mistake," said Rep. Marty Meehan, D-Mass.--------- "Based on scientific and medical evidence the APA declassified homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973 _ a position shared by all other major health and mental health organizations based on their own review of the science," James H. Scully Jr., head of the psychiatric association, said in a letter to the Defense Department's top doctor earlier this month. From the article quoted above. I expect the Pentagon will catch up with reality eventually. Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
gc1765 Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 How about we consider homophobia to be a mental disorder? Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Shady Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 Homosexuality might not be a mental disorder, but one cannot argue that homosexuality is a type of physiological error in a human being. It's a natural error, but an error nonetheless. Quote
Oddman Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 Some believe it is a psychological error for a human being to allow an ancient book to dictate their morals in the modern world. It would be like the world coming to an end and in 2000 years someone finds a preserved DVD copy of the Lord of the Rings Triology. I bet there would be people who would think that Frodo or Gandolf were prophets. Quote
Riverwind Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 Homosexuality might not be a mental disorder, but one cannot argue that homosexuality is a type of physiological error in a human being. It's a natural error, but an error nonetheless.You raise an interesting point. If someone is blind because of an inherited trait we have no problem calling the blindness a genetic 'defect' and everyone understands that we are not judging the blind person by saying they have a 'defect'. OTH, suggesting that a hypothetical homosexual gene is a genetic defect will lead to condemnation. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
newbie Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 Surprise, surprise. "Don't ask, don't tell", homosexuality is a mental disorder in the U.S military says Pentagon. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6061901026.html Did you even read the article? Quote
BHS Posted June 20, 2006 Report Posted June 20, 2006 How about we consider homophobia to be a mental disorder? This is actually being pushed, by a clinical psychologist in California. Which goes to show what a politically driven crock the psychological profession can be. Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
sharkman Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Homosexuality might not be a mental disorder, but one cannot argue that homosexuality is a type of physiological error in a human being. It's a natural error, but an error nonetheless. That's an astute observation. Same with the types that feel that have the 'wrong' sex. Quote
BHS Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Some believe it is a psychological error for a human being to allow an ancient book to dictate their morals in the modern world. Keeping in mind that Shady said "physiological" and not "psychological"... Really? Who believes that religious belief is a psychological error? Provide a non-lunatic link, please. Because given the homogenous predominance of religious belief of one stripe or another throughout all of known human history, you'd think it was the people who don't believe in some sort of religious system who have the psychological issues. Generally, psychologists try to analyze behaviour that is out of the norm, and not shared by large sections of the population. I think you're just injecting your atheism into the mix to be needlessly contrarian. Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
BHS Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Homosexuality might not be a mental disorder, but one cannot argue that homosexuality is a type of physiological error in a human being. It's a natural error, but an error nonetheless. That's an astute observation. Same with the types that feel that have the 'wrong' sex. I think both conditions are akin to autism. How do you like them apples? Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
Shady Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 You raise an interesting point. If someone is blind because of an inherited trait we have no problem calling the blindness a genetic 'defect' and everyone understands that we are not judging the blind person by saying they have a 'defect'. OTH, suggesting that a hypothetical homosexual gene is a genetic defect will lead to condemnationWell, I want to make sure that nobody thinks I'm condemning anyone. There's nothing to condemn in my opinion. A person is born homosexual, that's quite obvious. However, a certain type of defect seems to have to exist in order for that to take place. What will be interesting, is when, if it happens, but when medicine and technology evolve far enough to be able to correct such defects. Such procedures are done on other types of conditions and abnormalities at the present time to babies yet to be born. I wonder what will happen, and what the ethical implications of those actions will be in regards to homosexuality. Quote
BHS Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Well, I want to make sure that nobody thinks I'm condemning anyone. There's nothing to condemn in my opinion. A person is born homosexual, that's quite obvious. However, a certain type of defect seems to have to exist in order for that to take place. What will be interesting, is when, if it happens, but when medicine and technology evolve far enough to be able to correct such defects. Such procedures are done on other types of conditions and abnormalities at the present time to babies yet to be born. I wonder what will happen, and what the ethical implications of those actions will be in regards to homosexuality. I was serious, by the way, about the autism thing. I think all three conditions indicate a subtle form of brain damage that may or may not be treatable by gene therapy at some point in the future. If the therapy occurs in utero I don't know that homosexual activists would be able to stop it, without foregoing the current view that an embryo is just a clump of tissue subject to it's mother's wishes, and not a human being. On the other hand, if the therapy occurs post-pubescence I don't see how it's anything other than individual choice, which again is hard to argue against. Quentin Crisp rather famously said that he hoped that science would one day find a cure for homosexuality, because it made life so hard. He would have known, given the extraordinary and often difficult life he lead. Life is arguably easier for homosexuals today than it was when he was fighting his way through the world, but I don't think it will ever be the case that homosexual ostracism no longer exists, no matter how Utopian a world we might develop otherwise. Quote "And, representing the Slightly Silly Party, Mr. Kevin Phillips Bong." * * * "Er..no. Harper was elected because the people were sick of the other guys and wanted a change. Don't confuse electoral success (which came be attributed to a wide variety of factors) with broad support. That's the surest way to wind up on the sidelines." - Black Dog
Riverwind Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 I was serious, by the way, about the autism thing. I think all three conditions indicate a subtle form of brain damage that may or may not be treatable by gene therapy at some point in the future.Autism is a good parallel yet it is clearly a defect. People with moderate forms of autism are often able to function in society and often will excel at doing certain types of jobs. Some claim that Bill Gates has a mild form of autism. Many other famous inventors are also borderline autistic.The article I linked to suggests that wide spread genetic testing to eliminate severe cases of autism would reduce the number of geniuses in born. I have noticed that many gay people are extremely creative. I don't know if there is statistical evidence to back that claim up, however, if it is true then fixing gay people could have a detrimental effect of society for the same reason 'fixing' autistic people could have negative effect. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Leafless Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Posted June 21, 2006 Surprise, surprise. "Don't ask, don't tell", homosexuality is a mental disorder in the U.S military says Pentagon. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...6061901026.html Did you even read the article? Certainly did read the article. And here is another one that says homosexuality is an 'ADAPTATION' not an inborn trait and has nothing to do with genetics. BTW homophobia is a NON-EXISTENT mental condition. http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/seven.php Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 BTW homophobia is a NON-EXISTENT mental condition. True. How can you have a mental condition without a brain? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Leafless Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Posted June 21, 2006 BTW homophobia is a NON-EXISTENT mental condition. True. How can you have a mental condition without a brain? Your right. I guess homosexuals don't have a brain as they are the 'doctors' who eternally perpetuate the 'homophobia diagnosis' directed at any heterosexual who denies their god given genetic makeup and normal lifestyle. Quote
BubberMiley Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 You deny their god-given genetic makeup? What, are you some kind of atheist? Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
newbie Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 And here is another one that says homosexuality is an 'ADAPTATION' not an inborn trait and has nothing to do with genetics. BTW homophobia is a NON-EXISTENT mental condition. http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/seven.php You quote from a site that promotes the book: "The Agenda: The Homosexual Plan to Change America." Kinda blows your credibility. Quote
Leafless Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Posted June 21, 2006 And here is another one that says homosexuality is an 'ADAPTATION' not an inborn trait and has nothing to do with genetics. BTW homophobia is a NON-EXISTENT mental condition. http://traditionalvalues.org/urban/seven.php You quote from a site that promotes the book: "The Agenda: The Homosexual Plan to Change America." Kinda blows your credibility. My credibility is 'heterosexual' credibility' and traditional values. And this is what the "Agenda is really about" " THE AGENDA describes how homosexual activists plan on recruiting your children into the lifestyle; how they’re undermining traditional marriage; and how they will eventually criminalize any public criticism of homosexual conduct. (It’s already happening in Canada where the gay agenda is well advanced.)" Quote
Charles Anthony Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Guys, things are starting to get silly. You should really continue your feud with the forum's Personal Message feature. That way, you will all be able to kiss and make up while saving face at the same time. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
Liam Posted June 21, 2006 Report Posted June 21, 2006 Homosexuality might not be a mental disorder, but one cannot argue that homosexuality is a type of physiological error in a human being. It's a natural error, but an error nonetheless. Correction, it is a physiological variation, not an error. (I don't know if you believe in God, but if you do, do you contend that God makes errors?) Quote
Leafless Posted June 21, 2006 Author Report Posted June 21, 2006 Guys, things are starting to get silly. You should really continue your feud with the forum's Personal Message feature. Don't tell me tell the moderator. I am on track with links to causes of 'homosexuality'. But I know what your getting with those who post nonsense in an effort to justify or legitimize homosexuality as being on par with heterosexuality. Quote
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