Iran wins the War.

[John Johnston]

The Republicans have zero balls. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. What a clown show these people are. 

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

The Republicans have zero balls. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. What a clown show these people are. 

You gotta admit it's pretty ballsy for them to believe they can alter reality with nothing but BULLSHIT.

 

Edited Wednesday at 09:08 PM by robosmith

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, John Johnston said:

have zero balls.

What’s that? You want Iran and Israel to do nuclear exchange? If not then feel free to start a forever war in Iran. That’s the thing, America’s main objective is non nuclear proliferation, not protect deadbeat sealane oil access.

Edited Wednesday at 09:51 PM by paxamericana

[John Johnston]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You gotta admit it's pretty ballsy for them to believe they can alter reality with nothing but BULLSHIT.

 

This is beyond bizarre. 

[John Johnston]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

What’s that? You want Iran and Israel to do nuclear exchange? If not then feel free to start a forever war in Iran. That’s the thing, America’s main objective is non nuclear proliferation, not protect deadbeat sealane oil access.

Total bullshit. You need to start reading.  Complete capitulation from a war that was needless and unwarranted. Now Iran has the upper hand forever. There is nothing in any of these so called memorandums of understanding does anything to stop Iran from doin anything. On the contrary, your Goofy President is giving 300B of your dollars to Iran for political reason. My gawd you maga clowns are stupid. 

[John Johnston]

The Art of making really stupid deals. 

Everybody is paying higher gas and grocery bills so that your President can run away like a little Biotch. And the MAGA people think this is great. 

[paxamericana]

10 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

The Art of making really stupid deals. 

No that was 4D chess deal. Iran to 51st. What you didn’t think the 300 B was without strings attached? 

[eyeball]

Iran wins the War.

Yabut, Trump averts a global depression.

Trump says deal averts ‘worldwide depression’

If that's not worth a Nobel nothing is.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

This is beyond bizarre. 

Your thread title is beyond bizarre you raging lunatic. 

How did Iran win? 

By absorbing the most punishment, and then giving up on all their main demands? 

Trump got everything that he wanted from this. Everything.

More ayatollahs, mullahs, and generals were killed than the total number of American servicemen. The casualties were lopsided on a scale that was completely unheard of in any war that Trump wasn't involved in. 

It was actually far more dangerous to live in Chicago than it was to fight against Iran. 

 

You really have gone crazy, doofus. This thread is a new low for you. 

[BeaverFever]

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Your thread title is beyond bizarre you raging lunatic. 

How did Iran win? 

By absorbing the most punishment, and then giving up on all their main demands? 

Trump got everything that he wanted from this. Everything.

More ayatollahs, mullahs, and generals were killed than the total number of American servicemen. The casualties were lopsided on a scale that was completely unheard of in any war that Trump wasn't involved in. 

It was actually far more dangerous to live in Chicago than it was to fight against Iran. 

 

You really have gone crazy, doofus. This thread is a new low for you. 

What alternate reality are you living in?

 

1) TRUMP GOT NOTHING FROM HIS LITTLE WAR ON IRAN except a pinkie promise to not build or acquire a nuke…something Obama already had until Trump tore it up in 2018 calling their promise worthless. Iran doesn’t even have to give up all the Uranium they have enriched since Trump tore up the Obama deal, which was actually working. 
 

2) IRAN GOT:

-Oil sanctions lifted immediately

- $300 BILLION DOLLARS IN REPARATIONS 

- Withdrawal of US forces from the area 

- US pledge to respect Iranian and Lebanese territorial sovereignty

- Rift between US and Israel 

- Trump disapproval rating skyrocketing even among his Republican voting base

- US munitions stockpiles massively depleted, creating major backlog in western munitions production for countries across NATO dependent on US weapons  

=> the biggest prize of all, America weakened, humiliated and alienated on the global stage 

Remember Trump had been calling for unilateral and unconditional surrender or “a whole civilization is going to die”. I guess he meant the American civilization. 

Edited yesterday at 02:28 AM by BeaverFever

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, paxamericana said:

What’s that? You want Iran and Israel to do nuclear exchange? If not then feel free to start a forever war in Iran. That’s the thing, America’s main objective is non nuclear proliferation, not protect deadbeat sealane oil access.

The easiest way to stop nuclear proliferation is the get Israel to give up their arsenal.

But no one in power wants it that badly, they desperately want Israeli HEGEMONY INSTEAD, which means ethnic cleansing of Palestinians because Israeli right wingers want ALL THE LAND. 🤮

[John Johnston]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Your thread title is beyond bizarre you raging lunatic. 

How did Iran win? 

By absorbing the most punishment, and then giving up on all their main demands? 

Trump got everything that he wanted from this. Everything.

More ayatollahs, mullahs, and generals were killed than the total number of American servicemen. The casualties were lopsided on a scale that was completely unheard of in any war that Trump wasn't involved in. 

It was actually far more dangerous to live in Chicago than it was to fight against Iran. 

 

You really have gone crazy, doofus. This thread is a new low for you. 

Reading is fundamental. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Your thread title is beyond bizarre you raging lunatic. 

How did Iran win? 

By absorbing the most punishment, and then giving up on all their main demands? 

Trump got everything that he wanted from this. Everything.

More ayatollahs, mullahs, and generals were killed than the total number of American servicemen. The casualties were lopsided on a scale that was completely unheard of in any war that Trump wasn't involved in. 

It was actually far more dangerous to live in Chicago than it was to fight against Iran. 

 

You really have gone crazy, doofus. This thread is a new low for you. 

I think it depends on how a win is defined. Iran’s regime proved resilient. The mass assassination campaign didn’t work but the blockade did. Trump wasn’t prepared to sustain a long war. I’d say the Iranian government is fairly pleased with what we can see of the result so far. Many in Israel are deeply unhappy with the deal which says something as well. 

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The mass assassination campaign didn’t work but the blockade did.

The $300 BILLION payout and lifting of oil sanctions which had been in place moan years did. From a strategic standpoint Iran gave up nothing and by many measures is better positioned  than when the war started. They have shown the world that you can go to war with USA, the world’s greatest superpower and not only survive but benefit. 

Edited yesterday at 12:21 PM by BeaverFever

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

The $300 BILLION payout and lifting of oil sanctions which had been in place moan years did. From a strategic standpoint Iran gave up nothing and by many measures is better positioned  than when the war started. They have shown the world that you can go to war with USA, the world’s greatest superpower and not only survive but benefit. 

Of course, I should clarify I meant the Iranian blockade there and not Trump’s weird response. 

Edited yesterday at 12:23 PM by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

The apparently tiny US mortality figures point to another truth - America wasn’t willing to fight a ground war in Iran. When Iran closed the Strait it called America’s bluff. Trump knew his country was vehemently against a major war. And Iran knew it too. 

Edited yesterday at 01:19 PM by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

Israel can see how unpopular its current relationship with the US is in America and is looking for ways to guarantee support without reference to the public.

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Congress is considering legislation that would embed Israel’s military deeply within the US military-industrial complex. Stunned by the cratering of public support for Israeli policies in Gaza, Lebanon and the West Bank and towards Iran, Israel’s advocates are frantically seeking to preserve and even escalate US support for the Jewish state in ways that do not rely on defense of its policies or permit scrutiny of the manipulations involved.

Politically, this means avoiding public discussion of Israeli policies in Gaza, Lebanon, the West Bank or Iran and disguising the sources of massive amounts of money pouring into election races to defeat candidates raising questions about US support for Israel. The proposed legislation shows what this means bureaucratically.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/05/congress-us-israel-legislation

[CdnFox]

On 6/18/2026 at 4:13 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

I think it depends on how a win is defined. Iran’s regime proved resilient. The mass assassination campaign didn’t work but the blockade did. Trump wasn’t prepared to sustain a long war. I’d say the Iranian government is fairly pleased with what we can see of the result so far. Many in Israel are deeply unhappy with the deal which says something as well. 

Well the problem with any war that doesn't have stated goals going into it is that it's very hard to tell if you won  

The one stated goal we did see was that he was going to end iran's nuclear program to end the threat of nuclear weapons.

At this point it does not really appear that that was achieved. It would seem that the program was badly hurt, but I ran will be allowed to continue to have a domestic nuclear program and promises not to build bombs. Which is exactly what was the case under Obama. 

Plus now he's got to give them a bunch of money

To the world this is never going to look like a victory that's for sure

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

1) TRUMP GOT NOTHING FROM HIS LITTLE WAR ON IRAN except a pinkie promise to not build or acquire a nuke…something Obama already had until Trump tore it up in 2018 calling their promise worthless. Iran doesn’t even have to give up all the Uranium they have enriched since Trump tore up the Obama deal, which was actually working. 

You stupid God-damned loser.

Obama's JCPOA was being completely ignored, right from the start.

FYI one of the main components of the JCPOA was that Iran wasn't supposed to be building ballistic missiles and working towards ICBMs and they started doing it instantly. 

The JCPOA was hot garbage. Completely worthless.

Iran was using the JCPOA as a shield behind which to build ICBMs, build a massive drone army, and supply the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas with rockets to bombard Israel, while they were also upgrading their refining capabilities.

Do you honestly see no difference between Iran today and Iran in 2016, when Trump was elected the first time?

Iran is light years behind where they were in 2016 right now. 

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2) IRAN GOT:

-Oil sanctions lifted immediately

- $300 BILLION DOLLARS IN REPARATIONS 

- Withdrawal of US forces from the area 

- US pledge to respect Iranian and Lebanese territorial sovereignty

- Rift between US and Israel 

- Trump disapproval rating skyrocketing even among his Republican voting base

Lol. 

Tankers are flowing, free of charge.

Iran has lost their ability to mass-produce ballistic missiles and drones.

Iran has lot their navy.

Iran has lost all of their anti-air defences. 

Iran has lost most if not all of their fighter planes. 

Can you at least admit to that you fking child?

Obama was great at ginning up racial hatred, but his JCPOA was not working. Iran started on the road to nuclear weapons before the ink was dry:

1. They started developing delivery systems for nukes
2. they started ramping up production of those delivery systems to an extremely high lvl
3. they started developing refining technology to build weapons-grade Uranium
4. they started refining mass amounts of Uranium, far beyond what they'd ever need for civilian usage
5. they started to build their conventional military to the point where they felt like they no longer needed to listen

Trump showed them that they need to listen. And not just because nameless soldiers will die, because ayatollahs will die. 

You don't appreciate Trump's strength because you're a gutless loser, but strength is necessary. The less strength you have in terms of policing and military, the more of that you need to do as an average citizen. 

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- US munitions stockpiles massively depleted, creating major backlog in western munitions production for countries across NATO dependent on US weapons  

Listen idjit, you didn't complain about that when they were all going to Ukraine for that stupid war that we provoked. 

If NATO wasn't on the verge of moving into Ukraine, not one dollar would have been spent on defending Ukraine and not one missile would have been sent there. 

Iran needed to be taken down. America stockpiles weapons to end Iran-type threats. A nuclear-armed Iran is a threat that you just don't understand. 

The Ukraine war never needed to happen. 

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=> the biggest prize of all, America weakened, humiliated and alienated on the global stage 

That's just the talking point of a CNN cultist with shit for brains. No one that matters thinks the way you do. 

In his two terms, Trump has killed enough sovereigns (ayatollahs), top generals, generals, mullahs, and terrorist leaders to fill a high school gymnasium, while only losing an amount of soldiers that would fit in a baseball dugout. 

Can you make me the list of all the sovereigns, top generals, generals, mullahs (or state officials of similarly high rank) that were killed by the US military in every other war in their history? 

Try to get to ten.

And once you list is compiled, calculate the ratio of foreign leaders to American servicemn killed. Is that number higher than 1, like it was under Trump? Or is it lower than 1/10,000?

Was the number of US servicemen killed in a previous American war lower than the number of navy ships that were sunk? 

When you say that Trump made America look weak, you're just proving how much of a cultist idjit you are. 

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Remember Trump had been calling for unilateral and unconditional surrender or “a whole civilization is going to die”. I guess he meant the American civilization. 

And you really thought that Trump was going to exterminate 60M people, a-hole? 

He was making big threats to get big concessions. It was a war. He wanted to get his way, and he did a lot of big talking. So what? Did he murder all those people, dingus? No.

But he got what he NEEDED to get out of this. 

On 6/18/2026 at 1:38 AM, John Johnston said:

Reading is fundamental. 

Knowing what to read and what to ignore is fundamental. 

Reading articles from CNN and CBC is just mental. 

[WestCanMan]

On 6/18/2026 at 4:13 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

I think it depends on how a win is defined. Iran’s regime proved resilient.

They did that from hiding. 

That's not resilience, it's willingness to let other people die while you cling to power.

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The mass assassination campaign didn’t work but the blockade did.

Trump's blockade worked, Iran's didn't, or Iran would be taxing ships ships in Hormuz and building nukes. 

Iran is the country that gave the major concessions in this war. They lost all the stuff. 

The winner and loser is plain to see, but leftists only see what they want to see, regardless of whatever light is entering their eyeballs. 

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Trump wasn’t prepared to sustain a long war.

I'd say that Trump's war was working on a compressed timeline due to the mass propaganda war that the Dems were waging against America, in conjunction with the IRGC. Trump had to get that war settled in time to beat the Nazis/IRGC in the mid-terms.

If you're being honest, the Dems' lies propaganda sounded like it came directly from the IRGC's Minster of Propaganda. Beave's posts are so biased in favour of the IRGC that they could have been written by the gayatollah himself. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

They did that from hiding. 

That's not resilience, it's willingness to let other people die while you cling to power.

Trump's blockade worked, Iran's didn't, or Iran would be taxing ships ships in Hormuz and building nukes. 

Iran is the country that gave the major concessions in this war. They lost all the stuff. 

The winner and loser is plain to see, but leftists only see what they want to see, regardless of whatever light is entering their eyeballs. 

I'd say that Trump's war was working on a compressed timeline due to the mass propaganda war that the Dems were waging against America, in conjunction with the IRGC. Trump had to get that war settled in time to beat the Nazis/IRGC in the mid-terms.

If you're being honest, the Dems' lies propaganda sounded like it came directly from the IRGC's Minster of Propaganda. Beave's posts are so biased in favour of the IRGC that they could have been written by the gayatollah himself. 

I am being honest. Trump has moved somewhat from his previous clearly stated position of no new wars to no new wars with troops on the ground. The world has taken note. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

They did that from hiding. 

That's not resilience, it's willingness to let other people die while you cling to power.

Do you think they should have stood outside to make it easy for Netanyahu? The regime suffered mass assassination and was able to regenerate itself. The spokespeople and leaders remained level-headed in their utterances despite constant attempts by the Israelis to kill them. Now they’ve negotiated what looks like an excellent deal with a deadly enemy. That’s resilience in my book. They have played their few cards well here. When a weaker opponent gets a good result against the sports teams I support, I acknowledge that they have exceeded expectations. Same here. 

Edited 4 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[John Johnston]

38 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Do you think they should have stood outside to make it easy for Netanyahu? The regime suffered mass assassination and was able to regenerate itself. The spokespeople and leaders remained level-headed in their utterances despite constant attempts by the Israelis to kill them. Now they’ve negotiated what looks like an excellent deal with a deadly enemy. That’s resilience in my book. They have played their few cards well here. When a weaker opponent gets a good result against the sports teams I support, I acknowledge that they have exceeded expectations. Same here. 

Well. Trump and Nutanyahoo knew full well you cannot bomb Ideology into dust. Right now I am not seeing a lot of difference between Israel and Iran. Both want to wipe each other off the face of the map for one religion or ideology or another. And having a clown like Trump get himself involved was a harbinger of things to come. This squabble has been in it's works for centuries. Appointing a weekend news fox host only exacerbates things. The Trump Admin would do well to take some history lessons and spend a little time educating themselves. In my opinion. 

Edited 3 hours ago by John Johnston

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

To the world this is never going to look like a victory that's for sure

Who cares so long as the the right wing is happy?

You are happy right?

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Well. Trump and Nutanyahoo knew full well you cannot bomb Ideology into dust. Right now I am not seeing a lot of difference between Israel and Iran. Both want to wipe each other off the face of the map for one religion or ideology or another. And have a clown like Trump get himself involved was a harbinger of things to come. This squabble has been in it's works for centuries. Appointing a weekend news fox host only exacerbates things. The Trump would do well to take some history lessons and spend a little time educating themselves. In my opinion. 

He started like he had some idea of the world with the China stuff until he found out that superpowers are painful to fight and he went after everybody else, especially America’s friends. This war happened because he was too weak to resist the Israel Lobby. Now the blame game begins. Vance looks like he’s moving in a paleocon direction, suspicious of all foreign entanglements including with Israel.