Iran wins the War.

[John Johnston]

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

He started like he had some idea of the world with the China stuff until he found out that superpowers are painful to fight and he went after everybody else, especially America’s friends. This war happened because he was too weak to resist the Israel Lobby. Now the blame game begins. Vance looks like he’s moving in a paleocon direction, suspicious of all foreign entanglements including with Israel. 

Indeed. I think it show exactly how stupid Trump and Vance really are when they suggested that Venezuela was the same as Iran. Not to mention, they have turned their gaze towards Cuba, just in time to make a complete mess and disaster out of them. This is what happens you elect and appoint uneducated nutbars to office. But then again, the real scary thing is that absolutely everyone could see where this was going to go, but they agreed to it. Well, until the price of gasoline started bugging them. Strange days. 

[John Johnston]

11 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Indeed. I think it show exactly how stupid Trump and Vance really are when they suggested that Venezuela was the same as Iran. Not to mention, they have turned their gaze towards Cuba, just in time to make a complete mess and disaster out of them. This is what happens you elect and appoint uneducated nutbars to office. But then again, the real scary thing is that absolutely everyone could see where this was going to go, but they agreed to it. Well, until the price of gasoline started bugging them. Strange days. 

America, Trump and Hegseth in particular have insulted and demeaned all their allies and friends around the globe. It will take decades or longer for America to regain any respect or trust they may have had. In less than two years. I don't know where this will all end. But I know for certain much of this was avoidable. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I am being honest. Trump has moved somewhat from his previous clearly stated position of no new wars to no new wars with troops on the ground. The world has taken note. 

1) Trump was 4 years removed from daily WH briefings when he said "no new wars", and 2) people who were lying about him and slandering him can't very well hold him to any promises he made, right? 

If you promise me a rose garden, and then I lie to you and slander you, do you really still owe me a rose garden? Why should you keep your word to me at that point?

And is a ten-week war with less casualties than a weekend of Chicago gang violence really a "war"? 

This wasn't "a war" like Iraq or Afghanistan, it was a 10-week, pants-down spanking of Iran. 

Bottom line: Trump's promise is between him and his voters, and his voters understand why this war was necessary. Other people can be mad, but they have nothing to feel jilted about.

 

The promises that you should be worried about are the ones between the LPoC and you, as their voter.

Did Carney really play no role in moving Brookfield's HQ? No, so he realistically lied to you, not to me. I never took him at his word: I knew he was worthless a long time ago. 

Carney lied to you about his punitive counter-tariffs still being in place, because you thought that he meant it, and I knew he did not.  

Carney lied about elbows up, removing the carbon tax, etc, etc, etc, and that's just how he does business. And it's between you and him. He's dead to me. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Who cares so long as the the right wing is happy?

 

Well no matter what happens you'll be angry and blame conservatives    

YOU were the one who said that trump HAD to go after iran if he was serious, otherwise it was just "Mowing the grass"

[eyeball]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

YOU were the one who said that trump HAD to go after iran if he was serious, otherwise it was just "Mowing the grass"

He couldn't even do that.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

He couldn't even do that.

But he did, this is what you called for