WestCanMan Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 There are articles and FB posts and quotes from all sorts of people claiming that the war was uncoordinated, lacks direction, only Iranian accounts of talks with Trump are to be believed, conservatives are irate about the war, it's Israel's war, the war is illegal because Iran posed no threat, gas prices are the highest they've ever been (false), Iran is somehow winning, the war was only started to distract from the Epstein case, etc. The spin isn't just insane, it has gotten quite repugnant. There's no low that the left won't go to now to avoid a factual discussion about the actual reasons for the war and how it's going. They aren't just lying, or pettifogging, it's a hybrid version of both, where they try to ignore the direction the war is going by shifting the focus to minor details, but they don't even have any minor details that fit their narratives, so they're making shit up. The cult has reached a whole new level of lying that makes their old system of lying look mundane. I bet that most leftists don't even know what this is: 1 2 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Stone Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the Five Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council – China, France, Russia, U.K, - plus Germany together with the European Union. This agreement WAS victory. If I was Iran I would accelerate my nuclear program - it is their Aegis. An example is NK. Ron Burgundy on the right..............er Ron Hegseth ............ er, Pete Burgundy. .......... er, Pete Hegseth. Edited March 24 by John Stone 1 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 17 minutes ago, John Stone said: The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the Five Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council – China, France, Russia, U.K, - plus Germany together with the European Union. This agreement WAS victory. If I was Iran I would accelerate my nuclear program - it is their Aegis. An example is NK. Ron Burgundy on the right..............er Ron Hegseth ............ er, Pete Burgundy. .......... er, Pete Hegseth. Next Trump will blame this disastrous war is Pete Hegseths fault and turf him. Any bets? Quote
John Johnston Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 13 hours ago, WestCanMan said: There are articles and FB posts and quotes from all sorts of people claiming that the war was uncoordinated, lacks direction, only Iranian accounts of talks with Trump are to be believed, conservatives are irate about the war, it's Israel's war, the war is illegal because Iran posed no threat, gas prices are the highest they've ever been (false), Iran is somehow winning, the war was only started to distract from the Epstein case, etc. The spin isn't just insane, it has gotten quite repugnant. There's no low that the left won't go to now to avoid a factual discussion about the actual reasons for the war and how it's going. They aren't just lying, or pettifogging, it's a hybrid version of both, where they try to ignore the direction the war is going by shifting the focus to minor details, but they don't even have any minor details that fit their narratives, so they're making shit up. The cult has reached a whole new level of lying that makes their old system of lying look mundane. I bet that most leftists don't even know what this is: https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/jon-stewart-mocks-donald-trump-taking-credit-for-fing-stupid-idea/ 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 If the Strait stays closed for months... THEN can we say it was a failure ? Or no ? Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 2 hours ago, John Johnston said: https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/jon-stewart-mocks-donald-trump-taking-credit-for-fing-stupid-idea/ That's kinda on-topic, but it's not exactly pettifogging or anything like that. The fact that ICE agents are in airports is worth talking about, so it's not like lies or a distraction. Sure, Stewart made some attempts at humour that fell flat, but he wasn't pretending that Iran was somehow winning or anything. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Stone Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: If the Strait stays closed for months... THEN can we say it was a failure ? Or no ? The nuclear fuel is the objective - not opening the Strait - Trump wants to turn that into a global tasking - sans the U.S. Trump wants a negotiated settlement - any negotiated settlement. Declare victory and GTFO - that is what Trump wants. Iran will punk Trump with any agreement - they'lll both wink-n-nod - several years from now Iran will test fire a nuke - delivery platform re: ICBM is secondary - they have the means now for regional. Iran wants a nuke aegis - like any nation. Edited March 24 by John Stone Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's kinda on-topic, but it's not exactly pettifogging or anything like that. The fact that ICE agents are in airports is worth talking about, so it's not like lies or a distraction. Sure, Stewart made some attempts at humour that fell flat, but he wasn't pretending that Iran was somehow winning or anything. As long as the Strait is closed, ONLY the oil companies outside of the ME are winning. That's gravy for Canadian ultra polluting shale, right? Quote
Deluge Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 5 hours ago, John Stone said: The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the Five Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council – China, France, Russia, U.K, - plus Germany together with the European Union. This agreement WAS victory. If I was Iran I would accelerate my nuclear program - it is their Aegis. An example is NK. Ron Burgundy on the right..............er Ron Hegseth ............ er, Pete Burgundy. .......... er, Pete Hegseth. I think Iran's crusade to convert the planet and your secret longing to be converted is enough bile for one day. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 Can anyone tell me why all the Libbie women look like roadkill? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
herbie Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 It'a not losing. It lost the day it attacked Iran to distract from the Epsitiein files. Bo legal or logical reason otherwise. Quote
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 32 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Can anyone tell me why all the Libbie women look like roadkill? Can anyone tell me why you're so blind you believe Taylor Swift "looks like roadkill"? LMAO Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 6 hours ago, John Stone said: The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, Dummy. The JCPOA expired in 2025, and didn't prevent them from building up the rest of their munitions to the point where they could build nukes with impunity. Quote This agreement WAS victory. . It was a short-term victory for Obama and a long-term victory for Iran. Quote An example is NK. NoKo is a country run by secular nutjobs. Bad as that may seem, secular nutjobs still have their feet on the ground, and see nuclear annihilation for what it is. Iran is run by theocratic nutjobs. They're so out of touch with reality and humanitarian concerns that their laws allow: marriage to and sex with small children the r4ping/beating/imprisonment of women for not wearing a hijab Still worse, as a nation, they've openly been plotting genocide against Jews for over 40 years. Unlike secular nutjobs, religious zealots, like the ayatollah, see greater glory in the destruction of lives than the preservation of the planet. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Hodad Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 Half of this stuff is just insane shit from no source in particular that some internet loon made up or decided to repeat. I'd say the algorithm really knows it's audience. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 28 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Dummy. The JCPOA expired in 2025, and didn't prevent them from building up the rest of their munitions to the point where they could build nukes with impunity. Nope, the JCPOA expired when Trump WITHDREW from it. Duh They were free to violate it thanks to Trump's stupidity. Quote
John Johnston Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 The effects of Trumps war. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz could lead to increased medication prices and supply chain disruptions. The U.S. gets nearly half of its generic prescriptions from India, and India relies on the Strait of Hormuz for around 40 percent of its crude oil imports. Disruptions in this vital marine traffic route could affect the global supply chain, leading to higher costs and shortages of essential medications. CNBC Generic Drug Supply: The closure of the Strait of Hormuz could impact the supply of America's generic drugs, leading to potential shortages and higher costs. 1 Oil Prices: Higher oil prices are a direct result of the risks from the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which could affect the cost of medications. 1 Supply Chain Disruptions: The closure could disrupt supply chains involving metals, manufacturing, and food prices, potentially affecting U.S. medicine cabinets. 1 The situation is complex, and while the closure of the Strait of Hormuz is a significant factor, it is not the only one. Other factors, such as geopolitical tensions and economic conditions, also play a role in determining the cost and availability of medications. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 37 minutes ago, Hodad said: this stuff is just insane shit Just use that part as your signature, Hodad. It will save new readers about 3 seconds before they figure it out for themselves. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 19 minutes ago, John Johnston said: The effects of Trumps war. The closure of the Strait of Hormuz could lead to increased medication prices and supply chain disruptions. The U.S. gets nearly half of its generic prescriptions from India, and India relies on the Strait of Hormuz for around 40 percent of its crude oil imports. Disruptions in this vital marine traffic route could affect the global supply chain, leading to higher costs and shortages of essential medications. CNBC Generic Drug Supply: The closure of the Strait of Hormuz could impact the supply of America's generic drugs, leading to potential shortages and higher costs. 1 Oil Prices: Higher oil prices are a direct result of the risks from the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, which could affect the cost of medications. 1 Supply Chain Disruptions: The closure could disrupt supply chains involving metals, manufacturing, and food prices, potentially affecting U.S. medicine cabinets. 1 The situation is complex, and while the closure of the Strait of Hormuz is a significant factor, it is not the only one. Other factors, such as geopolitical tensions and economic conditions, also play a role in determining the cost and availability of medications. You failed to mention fertilizer of which something like 20% passes through the Strait. Strait of Hormuz conflict threatens fertilizer supplies to US ... www.youtube.com › watch 1:49 The conflict in the Strait of Hormuz has disrupted global fertilizer shipping, causing price surges and supply concerns for American farmers ... YouTube · WISH-TV · 1 week ago Hanley: Fertilizer Disruption in Strait of Hormuz Much Bigger ... www.youtube.com › watch 5:38 The bigger crisis with the Strait of Hormuz isn't oil — it's fertilizer, says Jake Hanley. He walks investors through how disruption in the ... YouTube · Schwab Network · 4 days ago A new global food crisis: farmers can't get fertilizers out of the ... www.youtube.com › watch 5:19 Fertilizer prices are skyrocketing as cargo ships are denied access through the Gulf of Hormuz. Major natural gas refineries, which source ... YouTube · Inside China Business · 4 days ago 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Just use that part as your signature, Hodad. It will save new readers about 3 seconds before they figure it out for themselves. ^THIS LYING is far easier for you than the impossible (for you) job of rebutting what @Hodad wrote. Thanks for proving that by taking the easy (but completely ineffective) way out. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Can anyone tell me why you're so blind you believe Taylor Swift "looks like roadkill"? LMAO Lol...a football groupie. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 16 minutes ago, robosmith said: Nope, the JCPOA expired when Trump WITHDREW from it. Duh They were free to violate it thanks to Trump's stupidity. It was set to expire after 10 years. So at some point in 2025. Which meant "10 years from 2015 to 2025 for Iran to secretly build up their own drone, ballistic missile, IRBM and ICBM capacity, and to stock Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis with hundreds of thousands of rockets, ballistic missiles and drones, so that they could overwhelm all of the US and Israeli defence systems in the ME." Do you understand that, robo? Are you aware that Iran even gives the Houthis ballistic missiles? Most countries don't even have ballistic missiles. Canada doesn't have ballistic missiles. But a terrorist group in the ME has ballistic missiles because that's how irresponsible and reckless Iran is. And they didn't just start giving the Houthis BM's after Trump "said or did something". They have been giving the Houthis BM's since at least 2015. FYI Iran was building up drone, rocket and ballistic missile arsenals all over the ME to participate in a genocide against Israel and to wipe out American bases in the ME. So look at how much Iran built all those stockpiles up over the past ten years, then look ten years down the road, and ten years after that. Eventually Iran was going to be powerful enough to just say "We're building nukes and you can't stop us." And it's possible that they could have even gotten away with telling Kamala Harris that this year if she won the election. At which point it would be her choice alone to determine whether or not to call their bluff. Just imagine a nuclear-armed Iran in summer 2026. Talk about f'ed. IDGAF what left4rd cultists say. Iran possessing nukes shouldn't be a partisan issue. You need to grow up, and deal with reality. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 Look at this headline from another snotty CNN reporter: It was one thing when CNN was just liars, but they're adding "childish" to their repertoire now. The guy just launched a massive invasion against Iran, took on the Mexican cartels, he had bullets graze his head and he just did fist pumps while he was still bleeding, and CNN's response is to call him a chicken.... Leftists are simply disgusting, shameless liars, and there's no depth to which they won't sink. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
John Johnston Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Can anyone tell me why all the Libbie women look like roadkill? Don't like Girls? Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Can anyone tell me why all the Libbie women look like roadkill? Interesting question. It's like "What came first: the chicken or the egg?" Is their outward appearance the manifestation of their inner ugliness, laziness, and stupidity, or is their inner ugliness a product of their grotesque physical features? Or maybe it's option 3: the man-bun simps are so effeminate and stupid that the women feel like they don't need to put any effort in to wrap the poor little cultists around their fingers. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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