ICE Officer Ambushed and Attacked while trying to make arrest, shoots Illegal Immigrant

[User]

16 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Bullshit. It is happening on a large scale. And it is wrong. Why do you think people are protesting?

Try reading the whole thing:

”"Garcia Venegas attempted to obstruct and prevent the lawful arrest of an illegal alien."

That is why he was arrested. 

[User]

31 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

never said i wanted open borders . i got no problem evicting illegals.. pulling each person aside that looks  like a foreign person and demanding  proof is where  i draw a line

You have no problem evicting illegals but cheer on an ICE officer getting ambushed and attacked who was arresting one?

 

[Deluge]

30 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

never said i wanted open borders . i got no problem evicting illegals.. pulling each person aside that looks  like a foreign person and demanding  proof is where  i draw a line

I don't. Agents have been around the block - they know the look. Even an untrained eye can spot these people. If they look illegal then you take them aside, check for paperwork, and if they don't have the correct paperwork you ship their asses out. It's that simple.

[Politics1990]

22 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I don't. Agents have been around the block - they know the look. Even an untrained eye can spot these people. If they look illegal then you take them aside, check for paperwork, and if they don't have the correct paperwork you ship their asses out. It's that simple.

such bs lol

22 minutes ago, User said:

You have no problem evicting illegals but cheer on an ICE officer getting ambushed and attacked who was arresting one?

 

as payback for them murdering a citizen yes i did find it funny.. he got hit with a shovel  he will be fine lol.

[gatomontes99]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Bullshit. It is happening on a large scale. And it is wrong. Why do you think people are protesting?

US-born citizen sues after twice being arrested by immigration agents

Most people put their best example first. From you article on ABC:

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"Garcia Venegas attempted to obstruct and prevent the lawful arrest of an illegal alien."

"He physically got in between agents and the subject they were attempting to arrest and refused to comply with numerous verbal commands," the statement said. "Anyone who actively obstructs law enforcement in the performance of their sworn duties, including U.S. citizens, will of course face consequences which include arrest."

In so much as your best example cannot prove your thesis that my statement is bullshit or people are being arrested on a large scale, you have proven me correct.

 

Edited January 15 by gatomontes99

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

LOL didn't hit him hard enough with the shovel  sadly

You're advocating the death of police officers now? That's pretty low even for you

[Deluge]

24 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

1. such bs lol

2. as payback for them murdering a citizen yes i did find it funny.. he got hit with a shovel  he will be fine lol.

1. no bs - lol. It's the right way to do it. Especially in light of the bullshit previous 4 years. Scoop 'em up and kick their asses out. They can apply from Mexico, and wait in Mexico.  

2. no payback - that's bullshit the left uses to confuse the issue. If you're an illegal alien your ass is out of here. You can apply at the border and wait in Mexico.  

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

You're advocating the death of police officers now? That's pretty low even for you

He's advocating for anything that helps dissolve US borders. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

such bs lol

as payback for them murdering a citizen yes i did find it funny.. he got hit with a shovel  he will be fine lol.

And as I said, you must be a 12 year old. 

[Legato]

33 minutes ago, User said:

And as I said, you must be a 12 year old. 

Now you're being generous.

[ironstone]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Bullshit. It is happening on a large scale. And it is wrong. Why do you think people are protesting?

US-born citizen sues after twice being arrested by immigration agents

"DHS authorizes these armed raids based on the general assumption that certain groups of people in the industry, including Latinos, are likely illegal immigrants," Venegas' attorney claimed in the lawsuit. "Once immigration officers are on a site, they preemptively seize everybody they think looks undocumented."

But most of those people that have entered the US illegally over the years are Hispanic.

As of early 2026, it's estimated that there are approximately 14 million unauthorized immigrants in the United States.

Breakdown of Unauthorized Immigrants by Country of Origin

Country	Estimated Number	Percentage of Total
Mexico	5,530,000	40%
Guatemala	1,402,000	10%
Honduras	1,098,000	8%
El Salvador	1,078,000	8%
Venezuela	486,000	4%
Other Countries	~4,500,000	30%
Total	14,000,000	100%

 

[Politics1990]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You're advocating the death of police officers now? That's pretty low even for you

i found it funny he got hit with a shovel he wasn't killed  and i also didnt say he should be killed . pay attention

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

i found it funny he got hit with a shovel he wasn't killed  and i also didnt say he should be killed . pay attention

You said he didn't get hurt enough. So obviously you wanted him injured more or dead.

Don't get mad at me because you said something like that. You very clearly wished him more harm or death

[West]

This is the American left for you. Sad

[Hodad]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Most people put their best example first. From you article on ABC:

In so much as your best example cannot prove your thesis that my statement is bullshit or people are being arrested on a large scale, you have proven me correct.

 

🙄The other day I provided an article in which journalists have tracked down 170 examples. 

I 100% do not believe the DHS statement. The arrest is captured on video. He was just a brown person filming ICE agents and they reacted as they do. You can see on the video that he's nowhere near anyone else when they came over and tackled him. He provided his Real ID--on both occasions--and they did not accept it.  

The Trump administration argued before the Supreme Court to empower ICE to stop people based on race, location and job, and this twisted, disastrous court allowed it. 

They said they were going to do it. They are doing it. And there are far, far too many examples of this for you to pretend like it's not happening. That's absurd. You are not being honest. 

 

[Politics1990]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You said he didn't get hurt enough. So obviously you wanted him injured more or dead.

Don't get mad at me because you said something like that. You very clearly wished him more harm or death

death no i ain't like you guys who is happy the lady got shot and killed .  but  a couple shots with a shovel and broom stick? sure yea its funny.. i mean they stupid and got arrested but alot of ice is scum so nice to see them get a couple shots

[gatomontes99]

13 minutes ago, Hodad said:

🙄The other day I provided an article in which journalists have tracked down 170 examples. 

I 100% do not believe the DHS statement. The arrest is captured on video. He was just a brown person filming ICE agents and they reacted as they do. You can see on the video that he's nowhere near anyone else when they came over and tackled him. He provided his Real ID--on both occasions--and they did not accept it.  

The Trump administration argued before the Supreme Court to empower ICE to stop people based on race, location and job, and this twisted, disastrous court allowed it. 

They said they were going to do it. They are doing it. And there are far, far too many examples of this for you to pretend like it's not happening. That's absurd. You are not being honest. 

 

👆👆liberal fantasy/fear mongering 👆👆

👇👇Reality👇👇

SCOTUS Blog

Moreover, Kavanaugh added, although “apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion” for an immigration stop, reasonable suspicion can rest on the “totality of the circumstances.”

 

You would do well to quit now. Your guy was arrested for interfering. Your only claim he wasn't is his lawyer and orange man bad. Your SCOTUS case that you claim let them stop people by race explicitly said they can't. You are 0 for 3. You can try to make it 0 for 4 or 0 for 5 or 0 for 10. But you will always be 0 for x because you have fantasy on your side.

[Hodad]

20 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

👆👆liberal fantasy/fear mongering 👆👆

👇👇Reality👇👇

SCOTUS Blog

Moreover, Kavanaugh added, although “apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion” for an immigration stop, reasonable suspicion can rest on the “totality of the circumstances.”

 

You would do well to quit now. Your guy was arrested for interfering. Your only claim he wasn't is his lawyer and orange man bad. Your SCOTUS case that you claim let them stop people by race explicitly said they can't. You are 0 for 3. You can try to make it 0 for 4 or 0 for 5 or 0 for 10. But you will always be 0 for x because you have fantasy on your side.

He said vs he said? 

Well, unless you count the goddamn video. 

And you just CANNOT bring yourself to tell the truth about it, can you? That's a concurring opinion. It is not binding and it does NOT change the fact that they paused the injunction. Paused is paused. ICE is free to racially profile, and they are taking full advantage. 

Edited January 16 by Hodad

[gatomontes99]

7 minutes ago, Hodad said:

He said vs he said? 

Well, unless you count the goddamn video. 

And you just CANNOT bring yourself to tell the truth about it, can you? That's a concurring opinion. It is not binding and it does NOT change the fact that they paused the injunction. Paused is paused. ICE is free to racially profile, and they are taking full advantage. 

Still 0 for. 

The video does not show what led up to him being detained. It just shows he was detained. He also admits that he was released at the site. 

Local NBC

"Garcia said he was released from the vehicle where he was held after he gave the arresting officials his Social Security number, which showed he is a U.S. citizen."

DHS maintains he got in the way. It was also a job site raid and citizens do get picked up in those raids. None are held any longer than it takes to verify citizenship. Based on what Garcia said, it sounds like he was there less than 15 minutes. 

Now, you said SCOTUS gave Trump a ruling to go arrest people based on skin color. That was a lie and I definitively proved that. Don't back out like a chicken shit. You lied. Own up to it. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

death no i ain't like you guys who is happy the lady got shot and killed . 

But you'd be thrilled if it was a police officer that got killed. That seems to be what you're saying.

I haven't seen one single person here who's happy that a lady was killed but we've seen many many stories where people on the left such as yourself are thrilled that somebody was murdered. Or attempted to be murdered. Charlie Kirk, that medical executive got tons of applause around here, the trump shooting, all that good stuff got you lefties screaming for joy

And here again, You're not just happy that an officer was assaulted, your big concern is that they didn't hurt him enough and he wasn't injured enough. That was your comment

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but  a couple shots with a shovel and broom stick? 

Which can be quite lethal if used properly and you hit hard enough. As you say they didn't hit hard enough for your liking

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 so nice to see them get a couple shots

But not hard enough.

So you're the kind of scum that would prefer to see officers injured more by criminals. 

Because you on the left absolutely adore seeing people hurt provided their people you don't like.

At the same time if you shot and kill the guy that was assaulting him instead of just wounding him lightly you'd probably be furious at how unfair it was.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i found it funny he got hit with a shovel he wasn't killed  and i also didnt say he should be killed . pay attention

The truth again eludes you.

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

He said vs he said? 

Well, unless you count the goddamn video. 

And you just CANNOT bring yourself to tell the truth about it, can you? That's a concurring opinion. It is not binding and it does NOT change the fact that they paused the injunction. Paused is paused. ICE is free to racially profile, and they are taking full advantage. 

Show us the video. Let me guess, it only starts when they are arresting him. Funny how these videos leave out the stuff happening before. 

You are the one lying, as always, and that is why you hide like a coward from me. 

You call this racial profiling, when it is no more racial profiling than if police are responding to a rape and the witnesses say a black man took off running, and police now have "reasonable suspicion" to stop someone fitting that criteria in that area. Why would they stop an Asian woman or a white man?

We know that some 10% of LA is illegal immigrants, the vast majority of them are from South America/Mexico, take cash-only day labor type jobs, and thus that is enough "reasonable suspicion" for ICE to briefly stop for investigation people in those areas. 

It is not racial profiling because ICE is not stopping any brown person anywhere, just because they are brown. 

Just like the police looking for the rapist above would not be able to stop any black man anywhere in town any time.

 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Still 0 for. 

The video does not show what led up to him being detained. It just shows he was detained. He also admits that he was released at the site. 

Local NBC

"Garcia said he was released from the vehicle where he was held after he gave the arresting officials his Social Security number, which showed he is a U.S. citizen."

DHS maintains he got in the way. It was also a job site raid and citizens do get picked up in those raids. None are held any longer than it takes to verify citizenship. Based on what Garcia said, it sounds like he was there less than 15 minutes. 

Now, you said SCOTUS gave Trump a ruling to go arrest people based on skin color. That was a lie and I definitively proved that. Don't back out like a chicken shit. You lied. Own up to it. 

Farking gross. You read an article about how they are terrorizing these people and the damage it does, how they roughed up an American citizen, told him his real ID was fake, detained him, and your defense of that is that they didn't hold him very long?  GTFO. You wouldn't tolerate them treating your family that way--but you don't have to worry about your rights because you're white.  Just life in Trump's America--or what's left of America. 

And the only thing you "definitively proved" is that you don't understand how the courts work. 

ICE set out explicitly to use visual race, location and job for profiling individuals to be detained--existing while brown is now probable cause. 

Lower courts blocked it with an injunction at every step of the way. This twisted SCOTUS--a sad parody of justice--paused the injunction, allowing racial profiling to continue. And ICE is continuing. You lied, and you're trying to point the finger at me. Everything I said is factually accurate. You're not fooling anyone.

Edited January 16 by Hodad

[User]

21 minutes ago, Hodad said:

existing while brown is now probable cause. 

Yes, just like if a white dude attacked someone at the bus stop, police could have reasonable suspicion to target white dudes in that area, considering their race...

Existing while brown at Starbucks getting a coffee... is no problem. 

[gatomontes99]

40 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Farking gross. You read an article about how they are terrorizing these people and the damage it does, how they roughed up an American citizen, told him his real ID was fake, detained him, and your defense of that is that they didn't hold him very long?  GTFO. You wouldn't tolerate them treating your family that way--but you don't have to worry about your rights because you're white.  Just life in Trump's America--or what's left of America. 

Still 0 for. 

Let's say ICE knows 80% of employees are illegal aliens. If they detained a couple that aren't illegal but release them after the facts are gathered, is that wrong? Hell no. It happens all the time. It isn't convenient. But ot is legal. 

42 minutes ago, Hodad said:

And the only thing you "definitively proved" is that you don't understand how the courts work. 

ICE set out explicitly to use visual race, location and job for profiling individuals to be detained--existing while brown is now probable cause. 

More fear mongering. None of that happened. Some lwnj news sources must have told you it did. But they lied. It never happened. 

43 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Lower courts blocked it with an injunction at every step of the way. This twisted SCOTUS--a sad parody of justice--paused the injunction, allowing racial profiling to continue. And ICE is continuing. You lied, and you're trying to point the finger at me. Everything I said is factually accurate. You're not fooling anyone.

The twisted part was telling ICE they can't do their job as written in the law. SCOTUS got it right.