Radiorum Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Domestic drone use is coming. Kristi Noem has announced that DHS is expanding their drone operations to defend “air superiority” over the interior of the US “air superiority” – a military term now being applied to civilian life (as if the interior of the US were enemy territory) The change is permanent – a new executive office inside DHS has been created – dedicated to drones and counter-drone operations – drones that have the capacity to detect, track, interrupt and disable signals Guess who they will go after. So much for the 4th amendment, which says the government must justify intrusion before it happens What is the US turning into? 1 Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 Um... we have been mounting cameras in public for like 50 years now. Drones have been in use for a while now as well. Does Canada not do these things, or are you just woefully ignorant of what goes on around you? And, as usual, you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to the US Constitution, as that is not what the 4th Amendment says, at all. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 22 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Domestic drone use is coming. Kristi Noem has announced that DHS is expanding their drone operations to defend “air superiority” over the interior of the US “air superiority” – a military term now being applied to civilian life (as if the interior of the US were enemy territory) The change is permanent – a new executive office inside DHS has been created – dedicated to drones and counter-drone operations – drones that have the capacity to detect, track, interrupt and disable signals Guess who they will go after. So much for the 4th amendment, which says the government must justify intrusion before it happens What is the US turning into? Time to get anti-drone blinding and artillery to shoot them down. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 3 minutes ago, User said: Drones have been in use for a while now as well. Provide the evidence that drones have been used to surveille the American people in the interior. 4 minutes ago, User said: 4th Amendment says The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Provide the evidence that drones have been used to surveille the American people in the interior. OK, now you are pulling out the Sea Lion routine. You are such a bore with these childish antics. You should hide in your basement, your own government is doing it too! ROFL Alberta RCMP expanding use of drones to respond to calls for service https://rcmp.ca/en/gazette/alberta-rcmp-expanding-use-drones-respond-calls-service 6 minutes ago, Radiorum said: The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. OK... and? You ignorantly asserted: "which says the government must justify intrusion before it happens" in response to the use of drones in public. 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: Time to get anti-drone blinding and artillery to shoot them down. This has been going on for years... clown. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 31 minutes ago, User said: now you are pulling out the Sea Lion routine. They are only doing it with probable cause. Probable cause is going out the window. Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 23 minutes ago, Radiorum said: They are only doing it with probable cause. Probable cause is going out the window. You are just making up shit now and do not even understand what probable cause means. Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 I fully expect you to run away from this thread like the coward you are @Radiorum, not admiting you were completely ignorant here... "The integration of UAVs into daily police operations is not limited to these examples. Across the country, agencies are finding innovative ways to leverage drone technology. From monitoring large public events to conducting traffic management and accident reconstruction, UAVs are proving to be versatile tools that enhance situational awareness and operational efficiency." https://www.blueline.ca/how-uavs-are-revolutionizing-canadian-law-enforcement-operations/ Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 (edited) 12 hours ago, robosmith said: Time to get anti-drone blinding and artillery to shoot them down. Oh please. If Gavin Newscum was doing this in California to stop people from killing field mice you'd be jizzing all over the screen. Edited January 13 by gatomontes99 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Radiorum Posted January 13 Author Report Posted January 13 11 hours ago, User said: I fully expect you to run away from this thread Here's the thing - I trust the Canadian government, I do not trust the Trump administration Quote
John Stone Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 it isn't paranoia if it's real. ....... that defines the near future threat of A.I. controlled drones. Anything 'guided' relies on a down link - the objective in electronic jamming is to soft kill the platform by disrupting this guidance. An A.I. controlled drone does not rely on this down-link for control - it is completely autonomous.. somewhat akin to a fire-forget weapon Now imagine a 'stream attack' on a motorcade? There is no defense. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 7 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Here's the thing - I trust the Canadian government, I do not trust the Trump administration I think that they could be used for a limited domain of law enforcement functions. Prevention and investigation of personal violence, terrorism etc. seems like a useful thing. There was a Freakonomics episode about how an 'eye in the sky' SATELLITE was used to squelch crime in the Green Zone in Baghdad. An American city pushed back on having it above them, recording everything. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 40 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Here's the thing - I trust the Canadian government, I do not trust the Trump administration I figured you would be too much of a dishonest coward to own up to the stupidity and dishonesty you posted here. Quote
User Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Oh please. If Gavin Newscum was doing this in California to stop people from killing field mice you'd be jizzing all over the screen. This kind of stuff is also being done and @robosmithis stupid as it is against the law to interfere with the flight/operations of a drone like that. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I think that they could be used for a limited domain of law enforcement functions. Prevention and investigation of personal violence, terrorism etc. seems like a useful thing. There was a Freakonomics episode about how an 'eye in the sky' SATELLITE was used to squelch crime in the Green Zone in Baghdad. An American city pushed back on having it above them, recording everything. Right. Police in large cities have helicopters. CC cameras are everywhere. Drones are the next step. It all comes down to 'Who's in Charge?' CONTROL or KAOS? (I'm old, hence the reference) Read an article of an American city with 24 hr. satellite coverage. They had a photo of a home invasion, the perp's car parked out front. They followed the photos backward (like rewinding) and found where the car had come from, then making an arrest. I don't like this 'Surveillance Age' but it's something we just have to live with. (Had to put up my own cameras after someone recently stole a lot of oil out of my tank.) Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 28 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Right. Police in large cities have helicopters. CC cameras are everywhere. Drones are the next step. It all comes down to 'Who's in Charge?' CONTROL or KAOS? (I'm old, hence the reference) Read an article of an American city with 24 hr. satellite coverage. They had a photo of a home invasion, the perp's car parked out front. They followed the photos backward (like rewinding) and found where the car had come from, then making an arrest. I don't like this 'Surveillance Age' but it's something we just have to live with. (Had to put up my own cameras after someone recently stole a lot of oil out of my tank.) Yes, that monitoring process was used in the Green Zone, as reported in the Podcast. As I said, personal violence is a good reason to use this. Evidence should be inadmissible otherwise. But American Libertarians freaked. We should also note crime continues to decline, I would say due to social factors versus tougher laws etc. The government is as reluctant to build prisons as schools and hospitals. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 15 hours ago, robosmith said: Time to get anti-drone blinding and artillery to shoot them down. Says ANTIFA. 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: Here's the thing - I trust the Canadian government, I do not trust the Trump administration Then you're what we commonly call...naive. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 13 Report Posted January 13 (edited) People... I can tell you, as I have known since the early nineties, your internet communications, your TV and entertainment choices, your driving habits, your travel experience, and so much more, have been tracked aggressively by most nations...INCLUDING CANADA...all along. There happens to have been...for better or worse...very little "personal privacy"...for decades. Hense..."Show me the person, and Ill give you the crime." Is possible. Edited January 13 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 13 hours ago, Barquentine said: I don't like this 'Surveillance Age' but it's something we just have to live with. (Had to put up my own cameras after someone recently stole a lot of oil out of my tank.) It cost me the equivalent of a deckhands share to pay for my oversight as a commercial fisherman. Three cameras coupled to a GPS/AIS tracker housed in a black-box plus the cost of a technician to come swap out the black box for a new one doesn't come cheap. Oh and don't forget the dockside observer who verifies that the number of fish being unloaded matches my paper record and validates the data processing and video review of the camera record of the fish coming aboard. It's either that or take a human observer from DFO to keep an eye on me. I mean I get it, I just think the public's interest in protecting fish stocks would be far better served by saturating DFO with cameras and human observers. More fish are killed by managers behind the closed doors of DFO's backrooms than anywhere. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Barquentine Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 (edited) On 1/13/2026 at 12:04 PM, Michael Hardner said: We should also note crime continues to decline, I would say due to social factors versus tougher laws etc. But try telling that to most right-wing politicians and their followers. According to them we're always in an apocalyptic age of crime. Edited January 14 by Barquentine adding text Quote
Deluge Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 On 1/12/2026 at 5:39 PM, Radiorum said: Domestic drone use is coming. Kristi Noem has announced that DHS is expanding their drone operations to defend “air superiority” over the interior of the US “air superiority” – a military term now being applied to civilian life (as if the interior of the US were enemy territory) The change is permanent – a new executive office inside DHS has been created – dedicated to drones and counter-drone operations – drones that have the capacity to detect, track, interrupt and disable signals Guess who they will go after. So much for the 4th amendment, which says the government must justify intrusion before it happens What is the US turning into? The 4th Amendment is safe - it's woke a$$holes and illegals that need to worry. Quote
User Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 8 minutes ago, Barquentine said: But try telling that to most right-wing politicians and their followers. According to them we're always in an apocalyptic age of crime. No, we just think that maybe we should do something about the crime that still exists and is happening. Apparently you guys seem to think there is an OK amount that we shouldn’t be bothered by. Like, sorry you got raped, but really we have an acceptable amount of rapes now, so sorry. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 So... if we don't have zero rapes at the end of this term... the President is at fault ? Do we really really need to parrot the stupid politics that is everywhere on here ? All politicians switch the parameters once they're in power, we don't need to. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 Radiorum, terrorist-lover, conspiracy theorist.... Chill out. FYI it was only a couple years ago that the US was spied on by.... balloons. From China. Managing the airspace is getting trickier all the time, and having pilots in the air 24/7 isn't possible. Have you ever even said "TNI"? Have you ever said Trusted News Initiative"? No, of course you haven't. FYI that's "Big Brother", buddy. They controlled FB, Twitter, Google, YouTube, CBC, BBC, NYT, WashPo, Associated Press, Reuters, the European Broadcasting Union... the whole shabang. Those guys gave you all of your covid opinions and whitewashed BSL4 Lab from the internet for months, while banning people for talking about it. Is that weird? How does that compare to Hitler's book-burning? Those guys gave you your opinions about the Hunter laptop, and kicked the NYPost off of the internet for talking about it. How does that compare to Hitler's book-burning? 100% of ^that^ is true, and none of it is up for debate. So tell me, how do you feel about "Big Brother" again? I think you like Big Brother. I think you love Big Brother. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that you are a Big Brother cultist, and you don't even have a defence against that statement because it's plain as day. 😘 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: So... if we don't have zero rapes at the end of this term... the President is at fault ? If more women are raped and more children are sodomized it just means that your side won, and Trump/ICE lost. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Michael Hardner Posted January 14 Report Posted January 14 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: If more women are raped and more children are sodomized it just means that your side won, and Trump/ICE lost. Yet, someone has pointed out that if the numbers go DOWN it's not good enough... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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