eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: And providing propaganda for the masses is not a primary government duty. Propaganda.... LMAO! 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: Private Enterprise can handle the delivery of news just fine I disagree. You just end up with corporate propaganda. 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: If you like the CBC you can pay for it out of your own pocket. Sure. You go pay for the military and all the corporate subsidies out of yours. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, and telling the government how to do it's job is our prime duty. As such a left wing slant might include more emphasis on, let's say, peacekeeping. Another might be on ensuring our valuable and fricken expensive military isn't squandered on assisting our "allies" in their military adventures or putting out stupid geopolitical fires they helped start around the world. This lefty in particular would be insisting we have a national review of our priorities and especially those of our citizens before we inform the government and military of what their duties encompass. And so we've circled back to the usual paranoid right-wing silliness that says the entirely natural biases of entirely human journalists are actually the PMO acting as the CBC's editorial board. LMAO! Get a grip, a salt-lick and rinse or replace your bullshit filter cartridges more frequently. My point will still be if you get to pick and choose what your taxes go towards then so should everyone else. Think about the number of times hard-boiled conservatives haven't been in power in Canada. It just might cause you to consider that Canada's natural ideology is progressive. In fact its a tendency that runs so deep it's cultural. It should not be the least bit surprising that this is reflected throughout almost all our institutions including, as has been explained many times, the universities journalists are educated. You people simply can't accept this and you can't let go of your grievances against it and the fantasies and notions that provide oxygen for your angst is music to my ears...sorry but it just is what it is. Its...funny... there's nothing else I can say other than to keep saying it every single time the topic comes up. The piper always plays the tune he's payed to play. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, and telling the government how to do it's job is our prime duty. It absolutely is not. It's not our job even a little bit Our job is to decide who will do the job. We also have a say in what they're going to do indirectly. We absolutely do not tell them how to do their job Quote As such a left wing slant might include more emphasis on, let's say, peacekeeping. Another might be on ensuring our valuable and fricken expensive military isn't squandered on assisting our "allies" in their military adventures or putting out stupid geopolitical fires they helped start around the world. That's not for the people of Canada to decide. Politicians make those decisions. The people of Canada will decide whether or not the politicians are good at their job and whether or not they want them to be replaced A process that you claim is pointless. And there's nothing left-wing or right wing about peacekeeping or and being involved in a conflict. The decisions there are what is in the best interest of Canada. The rest is just more of you usual bullshit that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand. Different governments may have different priorities and different policies. That is perfectly natural. People will select the politicians that are making the decisions. That is what a representational democracy is. But that in no way shape or form makes it fair for the government to turn around and spend my taxpayers dollars directly attacking their competition through state-run media which is what is happening currently Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 20 hours ago, CdnFox said: look who brought hatred to the argument You should use a dictionary. They have them online now. Quote
Barquentine Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 21 hours ago, User said: MSM for the same reason folks on the left don't like Fox News. Since when is Fox News not MSM? You don't trust them? 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 32 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Since when is Fox News not MSM? You don't trust them? Ha, I missed that... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Since when is Fox News not MSM? You don't trust them? I never said they were not MSM, but it is folks like you, as evidenced by some of the comments here, that do not think Fox News is news. Care to actually respond to the point I was making now or just continue trying to be obtuse about it instead? 51 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Ha, I missed that... Of course, the person who loves turning discussions into obfuscation/obtuse points the most would celebrate that comment. You know what else you missed? Ever coming back to own up to your woeful dishonesty about Rebel News in the other thread talking about media. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, User said: 1. Of course, the person who loves turning discussions into obfuscation/obtuse points the most would celebrate that comment. 2. You know what else you missed? Ever coming back to own up to your woeful dishonesty about Rebel News in the other thread talking about media. 1. Once again, you can't discuss something without making it about me personally. 2. I don't know what you're referring to but nobody believes that The Rebel even tries to be objective. They're not respected in serious quarters. 1 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Once again, you can't discuss something without making it about me personally. Once again, you generalize wrongly about me personally because I call out the way you behave on here. You have plenty of discussions where you can engage on a subject, and you run away when you get called out. Just like the one I mentioned about Rebel news. 8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. I don't know what you're referring to but nobody believes that The Rebel even tries to be objective. They're not respected in serious quarters. This was only a few days ago and you try to claim you do not know what I am talking about? Quote
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Propaganda.... LMAO! i accept your admission of defeat 15 hours ago, eyeball said: I disagree. You just end up with corporate propaganda. This is clear that half of the corporate Propaganda will go one way and the other half will go the other way. Fox news is offset by CNN and nBC. But the primary issue is but nobody will come to you and demand that you pay for fox news or come to me and demand that I pay for CNN 15 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure. You go pay for the military and all the corporate subsidies out of yours. Are you saying you're ok with me buying machine guns? Because i'd like to talk further about that LOLOL Defense of the realm is a primary duty of a sovereign nation. Propaganda is not. And while the use of the military is a political situation and can be left or right the military itself should not be. Should know tied to turn the military into a leftist project and now nobody wants to serve. Turns out that tampons in the boys bathrooms aren't motivation for people to put their lives on the line. 2 hours ago, Barquentine said: You should use a dictionary. They have them online now. You want me to look up words for you now? You should really learn to look up the words you don't understand yourself Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 42 minutes ago, User said: 1. you run away when you get called out. 2. This was only a few days ago and you try to claim you do not know what I am talking about? 1. No, I ask people to not insult and give warning. 2. I remember discussing The Rebel, not me being dishonest but I likely stopped talking to you and put you on ignore if you called me a liar... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. No, I ask people to not insult and give warning. After calling them chuds and behaving in an insulting manner. And this has been pointed out to you many times with specific examples Quote 2. I remember discussing The Rebel, not me being dishonest but I likely stopped talking to you and put you on ignore if you called me a liar... Oh look, he blames his lack of ability to reply on someone allegedly being on ignore, someone that he's actually speaking to right now Haven't seen that before 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. No, I ask people to not insult and give warning. 2. I remember discussing The Rebel, not me being dishonest but I likely stopped talking to you and put you on ignore if you called me a liar... I thought garnering insults was the manly thing to do, even those that don't come with a warning. 1 Quote
User Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. No, I ask people to not insult and give warning. I did not insult you. The thread you ran away from, you turned to making personal comments about me and I called you out. You said to me, instead of addressing your own dishonest portrayal of the facts: "Yes, selective editing provides exactly the kind of propaganda people like you need to believe in. " Now, you do your usual holier-than-thou routine and act like you were personally attacked and ran away. 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: 2. I remember discussing The Rebel, not me being dishonest but I likely stopped talking to you and put you on ignore if you called me a liar... LOL, I pointed out your dishonesty and then you run away. Of course. If you don't like having what you write called dishonest, get a journal and go offline instead of posting things online where people will see your dishonesty and call you out for it. 59 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Haven't seen that before Its the same old clown show. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, Legato said: I thought garnering insults was the manly thing to do, even those that don't come with a warning. IF that's true i'm basically chuck norris. Edited January 2 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 17 hours ago, Legato said: The piper always plays the tune he's payed to play. Then you people should be able to show copies of the cashed cheques not to mention the tunes the cbc was given to play. Apparently we have a PBO, an ethics commissioner and powerful transparency and accountability legislation now so there's no excuse for not being able to producing these things. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 17 hours ago, CdnFox said: It absolutely is not. It's not our job even a little bit Well it bloody well should be. Clearly the right-wing slant on governance is that everyone should just bow down to their betters and do what they're told. Fock dat. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Michael Hardner Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 Here's a fun piece about the time Postmedia journalists voted to keep The Rebel out of the Alberta Press Gallery... The Rebel isn't serious media, it's more of that smug clickbait that needs to go away. Postmedia withdraws from the Alberta Legislature Press Gallery after conceding an embarrassing bunfight with The Rebel. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, User said: I pointed out your dishonesty and then you run away. I don't think so. I'll tell you what, let's call a truce and I'll take you off ignore. No more insults from either one of us. Then we can continue... It's better for me than scrolling back and reopening this... 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Legato Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 54 minutes ago, eyeball said: Then you people should be able to show copies of the cashed cheques not to mention the tunes the cbc was given to play. Apparently we have a PBO, an ethics commissioner and powerful transparency and accountability legislation now so there's no excuse for not being able to producing these things. That sounds like a page in a Hogwarts dinner menu. Quote
User Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: I don't think so. I'll tell you what, let's call a truce and I'll take you off ignore. No more insults from either one of us. Then we can continue... It's better for me than scrolling back and reopening this... What you think and what you can articulate in writing here are worlds apart. We already had a truce. I did not insult you. Your word here is pretty worthless. 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: The Rebel isn't serious media, it's more of that smug clickbait that needs to go away. Who gets to decide what is and is not serious media? You clearly have a bias against them as you distort what they do and put forth dishonest characterizations about them. Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 1 Author Report Posted January 1 On 12/31/2025 at 11:56 AM, herbie said: Being free from the influence of corporate boardrooms and advertisers, I would say it's far more trustworthy than any other one. Nor has the CBC 'gone soft on' any govt or openly promoted any political party. That's bullshit promoted by losers. Are they free from the influence of the billions of dollars that they get from the LPoC every election cycle? The first thing Trudeau did after he got elected in 2015 was give the CBC $675M, and Carney also bribed the CBC to the tune of billions of dollars. Is that your idea of a perfect democracy? One where the MSM is openly bribed by one political party? What's the difference between CBC and Xinhua, aside from the primary language spoken? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 1 hour ago, Legato said: That sounds like a page in a Hogwarts dinner menu. Goalposts... Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted January 1 Report Posted January 1 34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Are they free from the influence of the billions of dollars that they get from the LPoC every election cycle? The first thing Trudeau did after he got elected in 2015 was give the CBC $675M, and Carney also bribed the CBC to the tune of billions of dollars. Is that your idea of a perfect democracy? One where the MSM is openly bribed by one political party? Bribery is a crime. How come no one has been investigated, charged, prosecuted or convicted of this? Could it be due to the influence of providing our criminal justice system with billions of dollars? 🤔 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Michael Hardner Posted January 2 Report Posted January 2 1 hour ago, User said: 1. Your word here is pretty worthless. 2. Who gets to decide what is and is not serious media? 3. You clearly have a bias against them as you distort what they do and put forth dishonest characterizations about them. 1. Well what's to lose then? 2. That's the problem. We all decide for ourselves but officially... there's no way to do it satisfactorily. 3. No, I know what I saw. The Rebel video was cut off, and didn't show the full story. Keep defending them if you want. I prefer accountability. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
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