Threat to National Security?

[herbie]

I propose that Donald Trump is a threat to Canada's National Security abd that should be voiced by our government.

51st state talk and threats to use economic force to annex us is just one thing.
Demands to annex Greenland is another. Attempting to surround Canada on three sides and block access to OUR Northwest Passage is unacceptable and is vital to Canadian security, not the USA's.
We should immediately launch talks with Denmark for a joint Greenland Defence & security policy and total free trade with Denmark to secure the sovereignty of both countries. We can't allow the people of Greenland to be forced into assimilation with people they have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to.
Has any Cdn leader got the guts to stand up and point this out to Canadians? Some of us are too dumb or uninterested to realize the consequences of this Mad Real Estate Developer's ignorance of sovereignty.

[Shady]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

I propose that Donald Trump is a threat to Canada's National Security abd that should be voiced by our government.

51st state talk and threats to use economic force to annex us is just one thing.
Demands to annex Greenland is another. Attempting to surround Canada on three sides and block access to OUR Northwest Passage is unacceptable and is vital to Canadian security, not the USA's.
We should immediately launch talks with Denmark for a joint Greenland Defence & security policy and total free trade with Denmark to secure the sovereignty of both countries. We can't allow the people of Greenland to be forced into assimilation with people they have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to.
Has any Cdn leader got the guts to stand up and point this out to Canadians? Some of us are too dumb or uninterested to realize the consequences of this Mad Real Estate Developer's ignorance of sovereignty.

Are you a boomer?  I still don't understand how people think that we can be annexed.   Please explain in detail how annexing a country works.

[herbie]

Ask Putin.

Ask the man who thinks countries are just real estate that can be bought. sold or threatened into submission  for the right price.

I gave you the reasons a US takeover of Greenland would be a threat to Cdn security, they are real.
I didn't say Donnie Diapers can or will achieve his pipe dream..He seems to repeat it as a distraction whenever he's backed into a corner over some other policy or event

Edited December 24, 2025 by herbie

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

We can't allow the people of Greenland to be forced into assimilation with people they have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to.

Mmhmmmm. Looking at you Canada! Still believing you’re actually Canadians…

Edited December 25, 2025 by paxamericana

[Legato]

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Mmhmmmm. Looking at you Canada! Still believing you’re actually Canadians…

Well America can have the Trudeaucarneyvals, the good stuff we will keep, Thank you very much for the Aintree Iron.

[John Stone]

13 hours ago, Legato said:

Well America can have the Trudeaucarneyvals, the good stuff we will keep, Thank you very much for the Aintree Iron.

.................. intrigued how a fascist would deal with Quebec - kind of blue-on-blue? 

 

[herbie]

So no one has yet contested that a US takeover of Greenland and control of both ends of the NW Passage would be a threat to Canada's security. It could also threaten access to Churchill and Hudson's Bay.

I'm not discussing whether they could, but if they did.

[eyeball]

On 12/24/2025 at 1:49 PM, Shady said:

Are you a boomer?  I still don't understand how people think that we can be annexed.   Please explain in detail how annexing a country works.

You probably start by cultivating a 5th column of admiring sycophants.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You probably start by cultivating a 5th column of admiring sycophants.

You must be a boomer too.

[eyeball]

14 minutes ago, Shady said:

You must be a boomer too.

What does that have to do with anything Junior?

[Shady]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What does that have to do with anything Junior?

Trump irrationally frightened you guys, to the point where you think Canada is going to be invaded.  I hope you and your fellow boomers can recover at some point.

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

I'm not discussing whether they could, but if they did.

You’ll get your new passport and driver license in the mail so no. Us taking Greenland would not threaten North AMERICAN access to Hudson Bay or NW passage.

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, Shady said:

Trump irrationally frightened you guys, to the point where you think Canada is going to be invaded.  I hope you and your fellow boomers can recover at some point.

It's definitely more of an irrational insult and I suspect boomers will take a while to get over it, especially the longer it goes on.

OTOH those of you who brush it off as a nothing burger will find lots of ways to rationalize it if actually happens simply to not look like you were taken as patsies.

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

It's definitely more of an irrational insult and I suspect boomers will take a while to get over it, especially the longer it goes on.

OTOH those of you who brush it off as a nothing burger will find lots of ways to rationalize it if actually happens simply to not look like you were taken as patsies.

It's an insullt, compliment and a strategic threat all at the same time. Canadians are livid!

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

It's an insullt, compliment and a strategic threat all at the same time. Canadians are livid!

It seems to be pissing off a few Americans too.

In 2025, several polls indicate that a significant majority of Americans oppose or disagree with President Trump's rhetoric and policies toward Canada, particularly concerning tariffs and the suggestion of annexation. 

[Shady]

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

In 2025, several polls indicate that a significant majority of Americans oppose or disagree with President Trump's rhetoric and policies toward Canada, particularly concerning tariffs and the suggestion of annexation. 

I mean most American aren’t wanting to kill Canadians… that’d be killing…ourselves. But outside of that everything is fair game with your little brother you know…

[ironstone]

On 12/24/2025 at 4:30 PM, herbie said:

We can't allow the people of Greenland to be forced into assimilation with people they have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to.

Interesting. How do you feel about Canada's official policy of mass immigration from countries that have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to us?

[herbie]

51 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Interesting. How do you feel about Canada's official policy of mass immigration from countries that have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to us?

Are you not even able to discuss an issue that;s sheer speculation without dragging your zenophobic political gut issues into it?
It has nothing to do with immigration at all.

[ironstone]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

Are you not even able to discuss an issue that;s sheer speculation without dragging your zenophobic political gut issues into it?
It has nothing to do with immigration at all.

How exactly is it going to play out if Trump plans to annex Canada through economic force? Is he going to try and keep bringing manufacturing and other businesses back to US soil? That makes perfect sense for the US. Our Prime Minister seems to be on board with that given the details of which country he chose to put the bulk of his personal investments in. Carney is primarily interested in enriching himself and everything else is secondary.

You call me xenophobic while you say Greenland not be 'forced' to assimilate with 'people that have no cultural, ethnic, or historical ties to'? You don't want it for Greenland but you're fine with it in Canada?

As I have stated previously, I can't blame Trump for wanting to get Greenland as it makes sense. Just as it made sense when previous administrations tried to get it.

China is much more of a threat to Canada than the US is.

[User]

On 12/24/2025 at 1:30 PM, herbie said:

Attempting to surround Canada on three sides and block access to OUR Northwest Passage is unacceptable and is vital to Canadian security, not the USA's.

Surround Canada on 3 sides?

Did I miss this alleged major naval blockade in progress or is this more of your absurd imagination at work...

 

[herbie]

Oh FFS you know damn well it is a speculative scenario but STILL lack the imagination to even address the subject.

As for Ironstone's distraction force yourself to imagine you're a Greenlander (if you possibly can) and think about what to expect as an indigenous person to be swallowed into the USA.

[User]

39 minutes ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS you know damn well it is a speculative scenario but STILL lack the imagination to even address the subject.

As for Ironstone's distraction force yourself to imagine you're a Greenlander (if you possibly can) and think about what to expect as an indigenous person to be swallowed into the USA.

Yes, I knew for damn well your point was BS. 

 

[John Stone]

No question Trump's strategy is to employ economic warfare............... Venezuela notwithstanding ......... to get sweeping concessions. 

The majority now realize that the swift boat attacks had nothing to do with controlling contraband into the U.S. 

Venezuela is two fold, an opportunity to demonstrate U.S. military power and Trump's willingness to display it and secondly, regime change - endgame is to be covert power behind Venezuela political power - the, 'sell' as always is the democracy argument. This 'play' isn't new by any means - but it's usually done covertly thru CIA. 

The problem with regime change  is that a common adversary unites a Nation - seeing it now in Venezuela, and secondly succession is usually a crap shoot. 

If history is any indication, U.S. involvement in a Country's domestic politics is usually an unmitigated disaster - Iran HAS to be the prime example but of course there are many others. 

Oh, yeah, 'you break it, you own it"

 

[herbie]

There are only two countries of significance that require regime change.
Both with expansion on their agenda.