The 2020 election was rigged, and the Trump administration goes after Georgia and Pennsylvania

[West]

Cheaters. Sad

 

[gatomontes99]

If they over sell this, it will be catastrophic for 2026 and 2028.

[robosmith]

Desperate never quit reeling in the RUBES.

They already believe BEFORE ANY EVIDENCE. LMAO

[John Stone]

if the election was rigged would it be a crime to partake in a Jan 6th insurrection? 

Assuming that an insurrection  even occurred of course.  

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, John Stone said:

if the election was rigged would it be a crime to partake in a Jan 6th insurrection? 

Assuming that an insurrection  even occurred of course.  

The violent attempt to stop the EC vote certification was STILL MANY CRIMES.

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The violent attempt to stop the EC vote certification was STILL MANY CRIMES.

Not by Trump... 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, John Stone said:

if the election was rigged would it be a crime to partake in a Jan 6th insurrection? 

 

January 6th wasn't an insurrection it was a protest. However regardless of how you choose to characterize it it still would not have made those criminal actions justifiable or legal. There's legal recourse to deal with crimes including election fraud.

Unfortunately people are losing faith in the system and it leads to them striking out in bad behavior because they don't believe there actually IS any real recourse. They believe that the democrats corruptly controlled that process. 

And when you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitalbe.  Kennedy said that. 

[Radiorum]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

January 6th wasn't an insurrection it was a protest.

Have you seen the footage?

 

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Unfortunately people are losing faith in the system

Because they believe all the lies that Trump has told.

The 2020 election has been the most scrutinized election in history, and absolutely no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election was ever uncovered.

This is another massive con job on the part of Trump.

[SpankyMcFarland]

14 hours ago, John Stone said:

if the election was rigged would it be a crime to partake in a Jan 6th insurrection? 

Assuming that an insurrection  even occurred of course.  

If the election was rigged…where is the serious evidence of that? 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

January 6th wasn't an insurrection it was a protest.

Never seen a "protest" where gallows were constructed and participants chanted about LYNCHING the VP. 🤮

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Have you seen the footage?

What about it?

 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Never seen a "protest" where gallows were constructed and participants chanted about LYNCHING the VP. 🤮

Holy crap, how are you still pushing this stupid lie?

It was not by any stretch of the imagination a functional gallows. It was a prop. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Have you seen the footage?

 

Sure, Have you?

 

 

These were all referred to as protests and riots. 

Jan 6 was a protest, or a riot arguably  That's it. There was no possible scenario where the gov't would have fallen. 

Hard fail on your part kid. 

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

The 2020 election has been the most scrutinized election in history, and absolutely no evidence of fraud sufficient to change the outcome of the election was ever uncovered.

That is no longer true. I'm sure you've been following current events, recently it was discovered that it is entirely possible that he won Georgia and bad actors broke the rules in a way that allowed far more votes than he lost by to be counted.

Now Georgia alone would not have overthrown the election. But it is proof that absolutely huge significant misconduct took place and had a major impact, and there are a number of unexplained circumstances where it could have happened further

I'm the opposite of a Conspiracy theorist but even I can look at the numbers and see they just don't add up. And the truth has come out as I just said that without a doubt enough bad acting went on to cost him at least Georgia and that was not something that was evident at the time during the "most scruitinized"  election as you put it. 

Having said that I don't feel the riots were justified. But then again I don't feel the George Floyd riots were justified either. I'm not actually a big riot fan either way

But it's completely false to call it an insurrection. Again for the trillions time if you have to lie to try and make a point then you don't have a good point. If your whole point doesn't work unless it was an insurrection then you are literally pointless  

[John Stone]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Never seen a "protest" where gallows were constructed and participants chanted about LYNCHING the VP. 🤮

no harm no foul. 

 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

If the election was rigged…where is the serious evidence of that? 

315,000 ballots in Georgia is rather serious. How many other states did similar?

18 other states are being sued for voter registration data. Why does the DoJ have to file law suits? I would think these states would be eager to hand over the information so this can finally be put to bed. I mean...if there was no hanky-panky, why not just hand them all over?

[John Stone]

The ethernet shines a light on government corruption, real or imagined. 

Real or imagined - think about that?

In politics, it is really the same thing. 

Significant historical figures realized that ...... exploited it.

But they didn't have the ethernet. 

......... I laugh when I hear society promoting on-line voting.......OMG!    

[Nationalist]

34 minutes ago, John Stone said:

The ethernet shines a light on government corruption, real or imagined. 

Real or imagined - think about that?

In politics, it is really the same thing. 

Significant historical figures realized that ...... exploited it.

But they didn't have the ethernet. 

......... I laugh when I hear society promoting on-line voting.......OMG!    

Online and mail-in ballots are just bad ideas.

[John Stone]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Online and mail-in ballots are just bad ideas.

yes. 

They breed, will breed,  conspiracy theories - destroying the integrity of thought re: fair and secure elections - this is a no brainer. Today, States are committed to Cyber war. 

Political hacks will (have) ruthlessly exploit it - scary part is they might be correct.  

[Radiorum]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

These were all referred to as protests and riots. 

Jan 6 was a protest, or a riot arguably  That's it. There was no possible scenario where the gov't would have fallen. 

Violence must never go without consequence for the perpetrators of it, and so the injustice here is that Trump did let the worst offenders of January 6 get away with it, referring to them as "hostages". here's the facts:

The “summer of unrest” related to the George Floyd murders resulted in over 13,600 arrests nationwide. No-one got away with anything. Over 300 were charged with federal crimes.

By contrast, Trump pardoned even the worst offenders of January 6, including people who beat police officers with weapons. More than 600 had been charged with assaulting, resisting or obstructing law enforcement, including around 175 charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.

“Complete and unconditional pardons” were even given to fourteen Proud Boys and Oath Keepers facing the most serious charges

 

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But it's completely false to call it an insurrection.

Until you read Jack Smith's reports, your opinion on the matter is uninformed

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

Until you read Jack Smith's reports, your opinion on the matter is uninformed

OK, show us the parts where he proved it was an "insurrection"

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

No-one got away with anything.

Assuming that "arrest" = conviction or that those arrested constituted the bulk of those involved in criminal wrongdoing?

No. 

[Radiorum]

11 minutes ago, User said:

OK, show us the parts where he proved it was an "insurrection"

Do your own homework:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

 

[User]

Just now, Radiorum said:

Do your own homework:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf

 

I did. The word insurrection does not appear in that document. 

 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, User said:

The word insurrection does not appear in that document. 

 

What does this describe to you - from page 11 - 

and, on January 6, 2021, to direct an angry mob to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification of the presidential election and then leverage rioters' violence to further delay it. 4 In service of these efforts, Mr. Trump worked with other people to achieve a common plan: to overturn the election results and perpetuate himself in office.

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

 

What does this describe to you - from page 11 - 

and, on January 6, 2021, to direct an angry mob to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification of the presidential election and then leverage rioters' violence to further delay it. 4 In service of these efforts, Mr. Trump worked with other people to achieve a common plan: to overturn the election results and perpetuate himself in office.

So, you admit you are a liar then?

He did not call it an insurrection. He made no legal argument to call it one. It is not my job to explain what that means. It is your claim that is bogus. It is your job to admit that or defend it. 

[Radiorum]

insurrection

an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/insurrection

[Legato]

11 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

 

What does this describe to you - from page 11 - 

and, on January 6, 2021, to direct an angry mob to the United States Capitol to obstruct the congressional certification of the presidential election and then leverage rioters' violence to further delay it. 4 In service of these efforts, Mr. Trump worked with other people to achieve a common plan: to overturn the election results and perpetuate himself in office.

Special Counsel Jack Smith, tapped by Attorney General Merrick Garland to investigate former President Donald Trump for allegedly wrongfully maintaining classified documents in his residence – a fairly common practice other U.S. Attorneys General have refused to prosecute – has a troubling record of failed, botched, and/or suspect prosecutions against prominent public figures.

https://www.americafirstpolicy.com/issues/fact-sheet-jack-smith-a-record-that-speaks-for-itself