The 2020 election was rigged, and the Trump administration goes after Georgia and Pennsylvania

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Interesting...so your little head is just full of ideas how to cheat. A Libbie trait i guess.

I read articles and see videos by EXPERTS who point out the dangers. You'll never see those on FOX LIES, sucker. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

I read articles and see videos by EXPERTS who point out the dangers. You'll never see those on FOX LIES, sucker. 

You don't see anything that doesn't confirm your own bias. Even when you're presented with factual information you can't figure it out or understand it. Your ability to fail to comprehend even simple concepts is legendary.

Honestly I sometimes wonder if you're using software that reads this forum out loud to you, it's hard to think of you as literate enough to read it yourself  

Edited December 23, 2025 by CdnFox

[gatomontes99]

So this is big, but probably not as big as hyped:

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https://www.11alive.com/article/news/politics/fulton-county-admission-unsigned-voting-tabulations-2020-election-state-election-board/85-c72117d7-6a5f-4df1-b59e-14e214ba029a

ATLANTA — Fulton County's admission that more than 130 tabulator tapes, the receipt-like pieces of paper that contain vote tabulation information for a particular machine, were unsigned in 2020 has brought the spotlight back on Georgia's election that year.

The records account for virtually all of the county's early in-person votes in 2020, more than 315,000.

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The county contends, in essence, that poll workers five years ago made an administrative error that they've taken steps to resolve

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The tapes are a part of the record-keeping and chain of custody procedure outlined in state regulations. Georgia state Rule 183-1-12-.12 requires a poll manager and two witnesses to print three such tapes, and "sign each tape indicating that it is a true and correct copy of the tape produced by the ballot scanner."

That was not done with the more than 130 early in-person tapes (encompassing 315,000+ votes) in Fulton County in 2020 that were obtained in open records requests by activists. 
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As a related but separate matter, there are 10 of 148 total tapes missing entirely, the subject of another, earlier complaint. Those encompass more than 20,000 votes which became the subject of a claim in 2023 that they "didn't exist."

A spokesperson for the Georgia Secretary of State's Office at that time, Mike Hassinger, said poll tapes are one part of how "vote totals are recorded multiple ways to provide redundancy and security."

"A scanner that didn’t produce a poll tape would have no effect on the number or validity of the votes cast," Hassinger said. "Poll tapes are not supposed to go missing, but precincts are managed by human beings who sometimes make mistakes."

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Everyone that said that the vote should be certified, no matter what, has been proven wrong. There were chain of custody issues that absolutely call the validity of the votes into question. 

Poll workers were trained to sign the receipts and they did not. Either they did it because they did not follow their training or they did it because the signature would have proven who did the work. Either way, the work should have been redone to verify the votes that were tabulated were legal and valid.

Also, the missing poll tapes are either the result of careless handling or improper tabulation. Given the above issues, verifying those votes are valid should have been a priority and it should have happened before certification. 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

So this is big, but probably not as big as hyped:

 

 

It's pretty big. It literally opens the door to plausibly stating that trump should have won Georgia. The numbers are absolutely more than enough to make that entirely possible without even going to extremes such as saying that only biden voters were allowed or something like that.

Even if it wasn't malicious it very well could have changed the election results in Georgia. And it would be extremely easy for it to be malicious and to be evidence of a deliberate attempt to change the election results in Georgia.

And because it's impossible to know one way or another with absolute certainty, now the entire outcome in Georgia is absolutely legitimately questionable. Which throws the entire democratic process into question and disrepute.

Democracy only works when people believe in it. It's very hard to look at the January 6th protesters now and say that they were definitely wrong, we now can see that it's possible that they were right even though that certainly hasn't been proved.

This is going to run into a major crisis if they don't smarten up and deal with this. What they need to have is the federal government lay down the law as to what is or is not acceptable for a federal election and everybody has to be on the same page and do the same things and there has to be consequences if they don't.

It's the only way to restore faith back to the system

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's pretty big. It literally opens the door to plausibly stating that trump should have won Georgia. The numbers are absolutely more than enough to make that entirely possible without even going to extremes such as saying that only biden voters were allowed or something like that.

Even if it wasn't malicious it very well could have changed the election results in Georgia. And it would be extremely easy for it to be malicious and to be evidence of a deliberate attempt to change the election results in Georgia.

And because it's impossible to know one way or another with absolute certainty, now the entire outcome in Georgia is absolutely legitimately questionable. Which throws the entire democratic process into question and disrepute.

Democracy only works when people believe in it. It's very hard to look at the January 6th protesters now and say that they were definitely wrong, we now can see that it's possible that they were right even though that certainly hasn't been proved.

This is going to run into a major crisis if they don't smarten up and deal with this. What they need to have is the federal government lay down the law as to what is or is not acceptable for a federal election and everybody has to be on the same page and do the same things and there has to be consequences if they don't.

It's the only way to restore faith back to the system

There are plausible, non-sinister, scenarios here. I won't call it proven to be stolen until some more evidence comes out. This definitely moves the needle from accusations about stolen to evidence of stolen.

Edited December 23, 2025 by gatomontes99

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

I read articles and see videos by EXPERTS who point out the dangers. You'll never see those on FOX LIES, sucker. 

Experts? In the last couple of years, these "experts" of yours have been shown to be not very "expert" at all.

You live in a nonexistent reality.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Experts? In the last couple of years, these "experts" of yours have been shown to be not very "expert" at all.

You live in a nonexistent reality.

^This is YOU, dropout.

Of course I posted a video by the CO SoS which you didn't even bother to watch, because in your IGNORANCE you know everything. It's your IGNORANCE that allows you to believe that.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

^This is YOU, dropout.

Of course I posted a video by the CO SoS which you didn't even bother to watch, because in your IGNORANCE you know everything. It's your IGNORANCE that allows you to believe that.

You don't post experts. You post lwnjs that use big words as a desperate attempt to create the illusion of credibility while simultaneously trying to cover up that the completely delusional conclusions lack any evidence or logic. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

^This is YOU, dropout.

Of course I posted a video by the CO SoS which you didn't even bother to watch, because in your IGNORANCE you know everything. It's your IGNORANCE that allows you to believe that.

Your experts are wrong consistently. THAT happens to be the truth of the matter and you know it.

[WestCanMan]

On 12/21/2025 at 7:21 PM, Radiorum said:

Have you seen the footage?

Yes. 

Can you show me the part where they were burning down buildings, looting, beating people to death, or assassinating police officers, like the Dems' BLM militia did?

FYI the same kind of footage exists from the BLM attack on the WH and you guys shrugged it off. The only difference is that the police didn't back down and let people into the WH, while Pelosi intentionally left the capitol sparsely defended.

The police were 1 row deep at the capitol, 6 feet apart is if they were social distancing, but by their own theory they knew that an insurrection was coming: they even had several dozen of their own plants inside that crowd acting as agent provocateurs. 

Look how many rows of protesters are there, how many rows deep, and yet there's one single, solitary cop there... But they theoretically knew there was gonna be an insurrection???????????????

And lo and behold, there's Ray Epps engaging in more seditious activity, right on cue. He's standing at the finish line - the spot where the protest turns into a riot, just like he wanted - and yet the guy who had been loudly preaching about the need to enter the capitol suddenly turned pacifist and walked away. Arousing zero suspicion from you.

Remember when the FBI and all the Dems' cultists were saying "It's a conspiracy theory that the FBI had agent provocateurs at the Entirely Peaceful and Joyous Celebration of Democracy"? How many were there now, genius?

ALL conservative conspiracy theories are eventually proven true, doofus. Just like this one was. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

There are plausible, non-sinister, scenarios here. I won't call it proven to be stolen until some more evidence comes out. This definitely moves the needle from accusations about stolen to evidence of stolen.

I agree. As I mentioned this isn't "proof" that he WOULD have won georgia. even if things had been done right, and it's not 'proof' of intended fraud.

But the problem  is those two things are now entirely plausible. The numbers are such that this could very well have denied trump a legit win, and it very well COULD have been intentional.

So now there are  three very plausible scenarios, one is that even if this hadn't happened the election would have been exactly the same, one that says this was accidental but it did cost trump the election in Georgia, and one that says this was intentional and the election was stolen from Trump in Georgia

Anybody making any of those claims can no longer be dismissed. They are entirely possible and even plausible.

 

As you say it moves the needle. In many ways it would actually be better if the real truths were known one way or another. Even in the worst case of intentional fraud at least the country could acknowledge what happened and make the changes necessary and move on and put this behind them. As it is those who support the democrats are going to say nothing happened in the other side is crazy and those who support the republicans are going to say clearly the election was rigged by accident or intent and it was stolen. It creates unreasonable division

Edited December 23, 2025 by CdnFox