User Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 Can we please start taking crime seriously in this country and keep these people locked up? Bethany MaGee, 26, identified as Chicago victim set on fire on CTA train by serial thug with 72 arrests https://nypost.com/2025/11/23/us-news/bethany-magee-26-identified-as-chicago-woman-set-on-fire-on-cta-train-by-serial-thug-with-72-arrests/ " “It is devastating that a career criminal with 72 PRIOR ARRESTS is now accused of attacking 26-year-old Bethany MaGee on Chicago’s L train, and setting her on fire,” Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said on social media Sunday. “This would never have happened if this thug had been behind bars. Yet Chicago lets repeat offenders roam the streets,” Duffy said of suspect Lawrence Reed, 50, who is facing federal terrorism charges in connection with the senseless fire attack." THIS IS MADNESS!!!! "Reed has 22 prior arrests since 2016 alone, and 53 criminal cases in Cook County dating back to 1993 — nine of them felonies for which he pleaded guilty, officials said. However, he’s only served time twice, spending just 2.5 years behind bars in total, according to CWB Chicago." 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 You guys are amateurs. That's becoming daily headline in Canada, and often the career criminal doing the offense was caught earlier in the day and released only to reoffend that afternoon Many of these guys have 22 prior arrests since January, you're going back to 2016. I would certainly feel a lot worse for you if we hadn't already been numbed to the whole concept by our insane liberal system here 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
robosmith Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 2 hours ago, User said: Can we please start taking crime seriously in this country and keep these people locked up? Bethany MaGee, 26, identified as Chicago victim set on fire on CTA train by serial thug with 72 arrests https://nypost.com/2025/11/23/us-news/bethany-magee-26-identified-as-chicago-woman-set-on-fire-on-cta-train-by-serial-thug-with-72-arrests/ The man has not been convicted, but that doesn't stop YOU and NYP in THEIR HEADLINE from CONVICTING HIM. Until he is ACTUALLY CONVICTED, under US LAW he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Duh 1 Quote
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: The man has not been convicted, but that doesn't stop YOU and NYP in THEIR HEADLINE from CONVICTING HIM. Until he is ACTUALLY CONVICTED, under US LAW he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Duh No one "CONVICTED" him by pointing out who this man is and his criminal past. But you are totally cool with all the other victims out there, like the one he beat to unconsciousness, damaging her optic nerves... 3 Quote
CDN1 Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 (edited) 8 hours ago, robosmith said: The man has not been convicted, but that doesn't stop YOU and NYP in THEIR HEADLINE from CONVICTING HIM. Until he is ACTUALLY CONVICTED, under US LAW he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Duh Gtfoh. We're not the courts. He's openly confessed to doing it, all on video. You had absolutely no issues with legacy media tainting the Chauvin trial. Edited November 24, 2025 by CDN1 3 Quote
robosmith Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 1 hour ago, CDN1 said: Gtfoh. We're not the courts. He's openly confessed to doing it, all on video. You had absolutely no issues with legacy media tainting the Chauvin trial. I was NOT on this board during the Chauvin trial, so you have NO EVIDENCE for ^your SPECULATION. As for the current case, he could very well be exonerated from criminal responsibility due to INSANITY. Do you NOT KNOW that in the US we don't have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for the INSANE? This is the price we pay for that FAILURE. Quote
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 (edited) 59 minutes ago, robosmith said: Do you NOT KNOW that in the US we don't have UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE for the INSANE? This is the price we pay for that FAILURE. Holy shit you are one of the most fundamentally dishonest people on this forum. We don’t need universal healthcare to lock criminals up or to lock up the criminally insane or to commit people involuntarily. This has absolutely nothing to do with universal healthcare. The fact that you are making my excuses for this man being in the street to beat women up and victimize women is the problem. People like you are why this man is a problem. You don’t care. Edited November 24, 2025 by User 2 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 9 minutes ago, User said: Holy shit you are so me of the most fundamentally dishonest people on this forum. We don’t need universal healthcare to lock criminals up or to lock up the criminally insane or to commit people involuntarily. This has absolutely nothing to do with universal healthcare. The fact that you are making my excuses for this man being in the street to beat women up and victimize women is the problem. People like you are why this man is a problem. You don’t care. Locking up the criminally insane is literal the only solution. There are 2 purposes of prison: rehabilitation and protection. We need to restore prison so that the public is protected. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
robosmith Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 36 minutes ago, User said: Holy shit you are one of the most fundamentally dishonest people on this forum. We don’t need universal healthcare to lock criminals up or to lock up the criminally insane or to commit people involuntarily. This has absolutely nothing to do with universal healthcare. The fact that you are making my excuses for this man being in the street to beat women up and victimize women is the problem. People like you are why this man is a problem. You don’t care. Your AD HOMINEM attacks mean NOTHING wrt to THE LAW. Duh Quote
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 27 minutes ago, robosmith said: Your AD HOMINEM attacks mean NOTHING wrt to THE LAW. Duh LOL, you don’t care about the law here. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 Focusing on individual crimes is anti-system thinking, since we could be seeing huge drops in crime rates due to effective programs and yet a single egregious incident would cast doubt on how well we're doing. If we could get people to focus on the big picture, and de-focus on emotional responses to every single thing then we would get further ahead. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Focusing on individual crimes is anti-system thinking, since we could be seeing huge drops in crime rates due to effective programs and yet a single egregious incident would cast doubt on how well we're doing. If we could get people to focus on the big picture, and de-focus on emotional responses to every single thing then we would get further ahead. LOL The problem is that you don’t care about either this incident or the big picture. You want to ignore this incident and change the subject, because this incident is an example of the larger issues you have no interest in changing. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 1 hour ago, User said: The problem is that you don’t care about either this incident or the big picture. You want to ignore this incident and change the subject, because this incident is an example of the larger issues you have no interest in changing. Read my post again. You can't associate a single crime to a trend without statistics. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 Just now, Michael Hardner said: Read my post again. You can't associate a single crime to a trend without statistics. Read my post again. You don’t want to talk about either this crime or the statistics. You throw statistics out so you can dismiss this, ignore it, and obfuscate. You don’t need statistics to simply look at this issue, analyze it, and understand it what went wrong. I have played this dumb game with you before, I have explained it to you before, and you don’t engage. Your position isn’t logical, it’s a dishonest tactic to avoid having to discuss the issue. If one person dies on a construction site, gets run over by a dump truck backing up, because the back up alarm wasn’t working, we don’t need to sit around saying we can’t care about this, because statistics! Sorry, until about 1,000 more people die from failed backup alarms, can’t talk about this! 3 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 1 minute ago, User said: Read my post again. You don’t want to talk about either this crime or the statistics. You throw statistics out so you can dismiss this, ignore it, and obfuscate. You don’t need statistics to simply look at this issue, analyze it, and understand it what went wrong. I have played this dumb game with you before, I have explained it to you before, and you don’t engage. Your position isn’t logical, it’s a dishonest tactic to avoid having to discuss the issue. If one person dies on a construction site, gets run over by a dump truck backing up, because the back up alarm wasn’t working, we don’t need to sit around saying we can’t care about this, because statistics! Sorry, until about 1,000 more people die from failed backup alarms, can’t talk about this! Obfuscation is Mike's specialty He's always posting things that strongly suggest his opinion, but leave him enough wiggle room to pretend that's not necessarily his opinion later when he gets called on it. Mike- "It could be said that trans people have every right to use whatever bathroom they want even if it puts women at risk". Everyone else " that's terrible, putting women at risk is wrong! You're terrible!" Mike: Hey, i didn't say -I- felt that way, i just noted it could be said by someone. Why are we even talking about this? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Focusing on individual crimes is anti-system thinking, since we could be seeing huge drops in crime rates due to effective programs and yet a single egregious incident would cast doubt on how well we're doing. If we could get people to focus on the big picture, and de-focus on emotional responses to every single thing then we would get further ahead. What a monstrous position to take. This crap is happening daily. And no matter what your Libbie rags tell you, crime is not down. 2 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: What a monstrous position to take. This crap is happening daily. And no matter what your Libbie rags tell you, crime is not down. Well, it’s just an incredibly awful response on so many levels. Like, what is he saying here, that if crime is down overall, we shouldn’t care if crazy criminals are still left roaming the streets killing and brutally raping/attacking women on the subway? like, sorry, sorry we let this guy go and don’t care that he was arrested 70 times and beats up women and gets right back out, but here look at the stats, you can see crime is down 1% this year! 2 Quote
Deluge Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 (edited) 13 hours ago, robosmith said: The man has not been convicted, but that doesn't stop YOU and NYP in THEIR HEADLINE from CONVICTING HIM. Until he is ACTUALLY CONVICTED, under US LAW he is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. Duh innocent until determined innocent is robowoke's way. GOOD for you, pervert! Edited November 24, 2025 by Deluge Quote
Deluge Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 16 hours ago, User said: Can we please start taking crime seriously in this country and keep these people locked up? Bethany MaGee, 26, identified as Chicago victim set on fire on CTA train by serial thug with 72 arrests https://nypost.com/2025/11/23/us-news/bethany-magee-26-identified-as-chicago-woman-set-on-fire-on-cta-train-by-serial-thug-with-72-arrests/ " “It is devastating that a career criminal with 72 PRIOR ARRESTS is now accused of attacking 26-year-old Bethany MaGee on Chicago’s L train, and setting her on fire,” Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy said on social media Sunday. “This would never have happened if this thug had been behind bars. Yet Chicago lets repeat offenders roam the streets,” Duffy said of suspect Lawrence Reed, 50, who is facing federal terrorism charges in connection with the senseless fire attack." THIS IS MADNESS!!!! "Reed has 22 prior arrests since 2016 alone, and 53 criminal cases in Cook County dating back to 1993 — nine of them felonies for which he pleaded guilty, officials said. However, he’s only served time twice, spending just 2.5 years behind bars in total, according to CWB Chicago." The Feds need to go and clean out the woke filth that is city officials. They may as well start with Chicago. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 35 minutes ago, User said: Well, it’s just an incredibly awful response on so many levels. Like, what is he saying here, that if crime is down overall, we shouldn’t care if crazy criminals are still left roaming the streets killing and brutally raping/attacking women on the subway? like, sorry, sorry we let this guy go and don’t care that he was arrested 70 times and beats up women and gets right back out, but here look at the stats, you can see crime is down 1% this year! Agreed, the two issues are completely separate and using one to dismiss the other is horrible. Even if crime is down and improving, there can still be a flaw in the system that allows crimes that could be prevented and should be addressed. But the liberal solution is always to avoid dealing with it. IF crime is down they would argue as above "Hey, overall crime is down, why don't you focus on the big picture!!" And if crime is getting worse (as it is) then it's "we can't be solving this on a case by case basis, we have to look at the root causes and try to address the big picture." And the big picture is always we need to let them out of jail and spend more money on social programs. Meanwhile the 'big picture' doesn't mean much to the poor woman who's emotionally scarred for life and will never be the same again after the attack. 3 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Agreed, the two issues are completely separate and using one to dismiss the other is horrible. Even if crime is down and improving, there can still be a flaw in the system that allows crimes that could be prevented and should be addressed. But the liberal solution is always to avoid dealing with it. IF crime is down they would argue as above "Hey, overall crime is down, why don't you focus on the big picture!!" And if crime is getting worse (as it is) then it's "we can't be solving this on a case by case basis, we have to look at the root causes and try to address the big picture." And the big picture is always we need to let them out of jail and spend more money on social programs. Meanwhile the 'big picture' doesn't mean much to the poor woman who's emotionally scarred for life and will never be the same again after the attack. That's because Libbies dont care about people. Its all about the party line for them. 3 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: What a monstrous position to take. This crap is happening daily. And no matter what your Libbie rags tell you, crime is not down. No matter what you say, it means NOTHING without EVIDENCE because your personal credibility is shot. LMAO 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: That's because Libbies dont care about people. Its all about the party line for them. And unlike you MAGA twits, the Democratic Party line is all about the people. That's why they're winning at the polls for 2026. Quote
User Posted November 24, 2025 Author Report Posted November 24, 2025 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: And unlike you MAGA twits, the Democratic Party line is all about the people. That's why they're winning at the polls for 2026. Well, you certainly are not for the people getting killed and harmed on the subway…. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted November 24, 2025 Report Posted November 24, 2025 4 hours ago, User said: Like, what is he saying here, that if crime is down overall, we shouldn’t care if crazy criminals are still left roaming the streets killing and brutally raping/attacking women on the subway? like, sorry, sorry we let this guy go and don’t care that he was arrested 70 times and beats up women and gets right back out, but here look at the stats, you can see crime is down 1% this year! He's one of those people that will downplay and ignore it until it's HIS wife or daughter getting beat up and set on fire. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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