Misgendering Is Calling Someone Born With A Penis A Woman Or Someone Born With A Vagina A Man

[herbie]

This is absurd, claiming that continued nan-acceptance and harassment  over what's between other people's legs must continue to save society.
In the came breath condemning globalism and political stripe as if they had something to do with each other -  and returning to condemning anyone who doesn't think gender is the important issue, over and over again.

Can your vision of society even exist without an identifiable group to scapegoat?

[User]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

 

This is absurd, claiming that continued nan-acceptance and harassment  over what's between other people's legs must continue to save society.

 

[User]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you don't think pro-trans folks are reasonable then I recommend not discussing with them.

Is this your strategy then: If you keep posting nonsensical things, obfuscate, and be obtuse enough that you win because people stop correcting folks like you with facts, logic, and reason? 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

This was an issue and even had legislation passed in the Harper conservative government.

Get some facts LOSER LOL

"Yes, gender identity was an issue during Stephen Harper's time as Prime Minister (2006–2015), particularly regarding legislative efforts to extend human rights protections to transgender individuals

. While the issue was less prominent than it has become in recent years, it was a source of significant political and ideological division. 

 

Key legislative debates

 

Throughout Harper's tenure, a private member's bill seeking to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code was repeatedly introduced and debated. 

 

• Bill C-389 (2009–2011): An early version of the bill was introduced by NDP MP Bill Siksay. It passed the House of Commons with multi-partisan support in February 2011 but was killed when an election was called before the Senate could vote on it.
• Bill C-279 (2011–2015): The bill was reintroduced in the next Parliament. It passed the House of Commons in 2013 but faced strong opposition in the Senate, where Conservative senators delayed and ultimately gutted it with amendments. The bill officially died when Parliament was dissolved for the 2015 election"

Harper wasn't trying to demand OTHER people go to jail for using the wrong pronouns. 

Everyone agrees with basic transgedner rights. Nobody wants to see trans kids being denied work or getting beaten up or the like. 

But demanding that children be taken from their parents and experience "gender affirming care" without parental consent is NOT the same thing. 

The libs went too far with that, and now people are sick of it. There is absolutely nothing that the liberals can't turn into a shit show

7 minutes ago, User said:

Is this your strategy then: If you keep posting nonsensical things, obfuscate, and be obtuse enough that you win because people stop correcting folks like you with facts, logic, and reason? 

Oh look,  @Michael Hardner ia asking "Why are you even talking about this" again.  Shock!   

[taxme]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

This was an issue and even had legislation passed in the Harper conservative government.

Get some facts LOSER LOL

"Yes, gender identity was an issue during Stephen Harper's time as Prime Minister (2006–2015), particularly regarding legislative efforts to extend human rights protections to transgender individuals

. While the issue was less prominent than it has become in recent years, it was a source of significant political and ideological division. 

 

Key legislative debates

 

Throughout Harper's tenure, a private member's bill seeking to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code was repeatedly introduced and debated. 

 

• Bill C-389 (2009–2011): An early version of the bill was introduced by NDP MP Bill Siksay. It passed the House of Commons with multi-partisan support in February 2011 but was killed when an election was called before the Senate could vote on it.
• Bill C-279 (2011–2015): The bill was reintroduced in the next Parliament. It passed the House of Commons in 2013 but faced strong opposition in the Senate, where Conservative senators delayed and ultimately gutted it with amendments. The bill officially died when Parliament was dissolved for the 2015 election"

This transgender nonsense was not pushed around and flaunted back in Harpers time like it is today. In Harpers day it was still pretty much left in the closet. I never heard of trans way back when. It was only under the years of the gay loving Turdeau that helped bring about all of this transgender nonsense and was promoted and flaunted by that pathetic mentally ill Turd. It was like father and son duo who both developed this mentally ill lieberal disease. 

I only started to learn about this sick and pathetic trans fetish disease in the past couple of years. I did not ever have to put up with sick trans perverted men, way back when, who could not compete with real men, so they decided, for convenience sake, to become a woman so that they can compete with women and win. Our society is becoming full of these girlie trans men who can now enter women's locker change rooms so they can see and watch girls undress. What a bunch of trans scumbags. Just my opinion of course. 😇

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, taxme said:

This transgender nonsense was not pushed around and flaunted back in Harpers time like it is today😇

 

Hahahaha 

.. his #2 VOTED for it 😄 

[taxme]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hahahaha 

.. his #2 VOTED for it 😄 

Good for #2. He was probably a secret trans man himself all along. Hahahahaha. 

So are you trans, MH? Just curious. 😁

[Political Smash]

On 10/28/2025 at 9:10 AM, ExFlyer said:

This was an issue and even had legislation passed in the Harper conservative government.

Get some facts LOSER LOL

"Yes, gender identity was an issue during Stephen Harper's time as Prime Minister (2006–2015), particularly regarding legislative efforts to extend human rights protections to transgender individuals

. While the issue was less prominent than it has become in recent years, it was a source of significant political and ideological division. 

 

Key legislative debates

 

Throughout Harper's tenure, a private member's bill seeking to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code was repeatedly introduced and debated. 

 

• Bill C-389 (2009–2011): An early version of the bill was introduced by NDP MP Bill Siksay. It passed the House of Commons with multi-partisan support in February 2011 but was killed when an election was called before the Senate could vote on it.
• Bill C-279 (2011–2015): The bill was reintroduced in the next Parliament. It passed the House of Commons in 2013 but faced strong opposition in the Senate, where Conservative senators delayed and ultimately gutted it with amendments. The bill officially died when Parliament was dissolved for the 2015 election"

Yeah they died and here you are going on about it. Still it doesn't detract from the fact that they are based upon forcing factually exposed foundations of sick and filthy lies and deceptions upon the public. 

[Political Smash]

On 10/28/2025 at 11:07 AM, herbie said:

This is absurd, claiming that continued nan-acceptance and harassment  over what's between other people's legs must continue to save society.
In the came breath condemning globalism and political stripe as if they had something to do with each other -  and returning to condemning anyone who doesn't think gender is the important issue, over and over again.

Can your vision of society even exist without an identifiable group to scapegoat?

Standing strong against liars and their lies and deceptions is absolutely my pleasure. What is absurd is people like you attempting to force such disgusting lies and deceptions upon the public. When the same lies and deceptions are forced upon several countries simultaneously for years it is factual evidence of conspiracy unfolding on international levels.

23 hours ago, User said:

😃

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Harper wasn't trying to demand OTHER people go to jail for using the wrong pronouns. 

Everyone agrees with basic transgedner rights. Nobody wants to see trans kids being denied work or getting beaten up or the like. 

But demanding that children be taken from their parents and experience "gender affirming care" without parental consent is NOT the same thing. 

The libs went too far with that, and now people are sick of it. There is absolutely nothing that the liberals can't turn into a shit show

Oh look,  @Michael Hardner ia asking "Why are you even talking about this" again.  Shock!   

I Would never agree with any such thing, as a matter of fact these so called trans should be taught to accept themselves for what they factually are and start respecting everyone else for what we are as far as xx and xy goes. Facts are not agreed upon, they are either recognized or ignored and claiming to agree with liars having the right to rob everyone else of the right, freedom and liberty to be what we are because they do not want to accept themselves for what they are in the first place is absurd on top of thinking anyone else should have to lie for them is sick, filthy and disgusting. There is no excuse for this having even manifested in the first place.

20 hours ago, taxme said:

This transgender nonsense was not pushed around and flaunted back in Harpers time like it is today. In Harpers day it was still pretty much left in the closet. I never heard of trans way back when. It was only under the years of the gay loving Turdeau that helped bring about all of this transgender nonsense and was promoted and flaunted by that pathetic mentally ill Turd. It was like father and son duo who both developed this mentally ill lieberal disease. 

I only started to learn about this sick and pathetic trans fetish disease in the past couple of years. I did not ever have to put up with sick trans perverted men, way back when, who could not compete with real men, so they decided, for convenience sake, to become a woman so that they can compete with women and win. Our society is becoming full of these girlie trans men who can now enter women's locker change rooms so they can see and watch girls undress. What a bunch of trans scumbags. Just my opinion of course. 😇

It's called Bill C-16 and the 2017 amendment to Bill C-16 Federally, complete garbage.

Edited October 29, 2025 by Political Smash

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Political Smash said:

Yeah they died and here you are going on about it. Still it doesn't detract from the fact that they are based upon forcing factually exposed foundations of sick and filthy lies and deceptions upon the public. 

Duhhh, both bill passed, I even bolded it for you LOL

What you personally like or don't like is immaterial.

Harper passed 2 bills and that is a fact

 

Edited October 29, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Venandi]

8 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Duhhh, both bill passed, I even bolded it for you LOL

What you personally like or don't like is immaterial.

Harper passed 2 bills and that is a fact

 

I'm not going to insert a bunch of Ha Ha Ha's, LOLs, Duhs or anything else here... nor am I going to pursue the subject further.

But, and it's a big butt... because of my hobbies I'm aquatinted with a number of very talented and athletic young ladies who previously supported the idea of trans women inclusiveness with slogans like "it's a toilet like." 

They don't anymore...

I previously and routinely warned them of the possibility of unintended consequences and they laughed whilst gently labeling me a boomer conspiracy theorist. Now what I warned them about is here... and they acknowledge it.

Although the madness hasn't affected most of them directly (some it has BTW), they are now aghast at where this has gone and the effect on women's sports it has had.

I would invite you, Micheal, Herb and a few others here to offer them a word of advice because they feel duped by the whole thing and now regret the support they previously freely offered.

I'll listen but won't argue my position further as I consider it a dead issue.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2025 by Venandi

[herbie]

There we go again about "forcing things on us" when it's (again) the exact opposite. This LBGTQ stuff's been around since the first humans so you're the ones trying to force other people to deny and demean it.
Sex change surgery is over 60 years old and no one at all had it forced on them. 

[Legato]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

There we go again about "forcing things on us" when it's (again) the exact opposite. This LBGTQ stuff's been around since the first humans so you're the ones trying to force other people to deny and demean it.
Sex change surgery is over 60 years old and no one at all had it forced on them. 

So if rainbow crosswalks were painted over no one would bat an eyelid.

Blinkers abound.

[ExFlyer]

47 minutes ago, Venandi said:

I'm not going to insert a bunch of Ha Ha Ha's, LOLs, Duhs or anything else here... nor am I going to pursue the subject further.

But, and it's a big butt... because of my hobbies (call it lifestyle if you will), I'm aquatinted with a number of very talented and athletic young ladies who previously supported the idea of trans women inclusiveness with slogans like "it's a toilet like." 

They don't anymore...

I previously and routinely warned them of the possibility of unintended consequences and they laughed whilst gently labeling me a boomer conspiracy theorist. Now what I warned them about is here... and they acknowledge it.

Although the madness hasn't affected most of them directly (some it has BTW), they are now aghast at where this has gone and the effect on women's sports it has had.

I would invite you, Micheal, Herb and a few others here to offer them a word of advice because they feel duped by the whole thing and now regret the support they previously freely offered.

I'll listen but won't respond further as I consider it a dead issue.

 

 

I do not agree with men that decided to be women to be allowed to compete with women. 

I just pointed out Mr Harper had 2 bills passed that OK'd the transgender actions.
 

Edited October 29, 2025 by ExFlyer

[Venandi]

As promised I won't contest any of it but in summary:

Herb says "FU nobody forced ya; and

Flyer says "I was only quoting somebody else."

How about you Mike... does "I don't care, not my problem" sound about right?

[Michael Hardner]

13 minutes ago, Venandi said:

 

How about you Mike... does "I don't care, not my problem" sound about right?

What about it? Trans people in sports? I'm not upset about it, but I'm not as bored as a lot of people. 

People should be able to express themselves, listen to others and come up with an answer that's workable.  Before Chad world, this was not such a problem.

[User]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

There we go again about "forcing things on us" when it's (again) the exact opposite. This LBGTQ stuff's been around since the first humans so you're the ones trying to force other people to deny and demean it.
Sex change surgery is over 60 years old and no one at all had it forced on them. 

Yes, you are in fact forcing things on us when people like you have the power of institutions that demand people in their control use preferred pronouns or of government that compels girls to have to compete against boys or that they must be OK with boys or men in womens spaces… or that people must accept this madness to adopt kids, or use this against parents in divorce, etc… 

 

[Venandi]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Before Chad world, this was not such a problem.

Got it:

- "FU nobody forced ya;

- "I was only quoting someone else;" and

- This isn't a problem.

Any other snippets of insightful wisdom I can  pass on? 

Edited October 29, 2025 by Venandi

[User]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What about it? Trans people in sports? I'm not upset about it, but I'm not as bored as a lot of people

There you have it. Every now and then you slip up on your routine to obfuscate and let the truth slip out.

You characterize people as bored for caring about these things.

But of course, you are in just about every thread pushing it and pretending to not care about it when pressed… you clearly are bored enough to be here too. 
 

Such dumb tactics people like you use in these discussIons which is why you hide from me now for calling you out. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Got it:

- "FU nobody forced ya;

- "I was only quoting someone else;" and

- This isn't a problem.

Any other snippets of insightful wisdom I can  pass on? 

Are you trying to characterize my position? 

 

If so, getting it wrong on purpose... Guess you're doing it because you're bored.

[taxme]

27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

What about it? Trans people in sports? I'm not upset about it, but I'm not as bored as a lot of people. 

People should be able to express themselves, listen to others and come up with an answer that's workable.  Before Chad world, this was not such a problem.

You should be concerned and upset with girlie men wanting to play in women's sports. If those girlie men can't compete with real men, than they should just go find something else to do. Like sewing or cooking as examples. LOL.

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Are you trying to characterize my position? 

 

If so, getting it wrong on purpose... Guess you're doing it because you're bored.

 

[User]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Are you trying to characterize my position? 

 

If so, getting it wrong on purpose... Guess you're doing it because you're bored.

No more bored than you or characterizing us as bored.

Enough of your stupid dishonest games. 

[Venandi]

10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Are you trying to characterize my position? 

Yes... SURPRISE, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Please provide a correction if I managed to interpret your position incorrectly. 

 

[taxme]

9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Are you trying to characterize my position? 

 

If so, getting it wrong on purpose... Guess you're doing it because you're bored.

My opinion of leftist lieberals like you is that they are way too boring to want to talk with. They never make any common sense anyway when they try and make people think that they have all the answers and others do not. Personally, i do believe that you are one bored lefty, lefty. LOL.

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Yes... SURPRISE, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Please provide a correction if I managed to interpret your position incorrectly. 

 

I don't think I'm going to do that. 

I think you've had some good posts in the past, but I'm not your wind-up toy. 

I don't appreciate it. 

You're on ignore now. Sorry to ruin your day.