I’m a former senior aide to Stephen Harper. Pierre Poilievre is dismantling the principled, trustworthy Conservative Party we tried to build

[JohnnyCanuck]

On 10/18/2025 at 7:07 PM, BeaverFever said:

 

I’m a former senior aide to Stephen Harper. Pierre Poilievre is dismantling the principled, trustworthy Conservative Party we tried to build
 

 

By Dimitri Soudas Contributor

 

 

BeaverFever -  are you just re-posting the Soudas article - are we responding to him or to you?  

Soudas says "The Conservative Party that was shaped by the nation-building of Sir John A. Macdonald,"

Soudas sounds just like poor ole Joe "Who" Clark  when Mckay and Manning merged their parties to form the modern Canadian Conservative Party.  "this is not the party of John A. MacDonald"  Clark bleated over and over.   bah bah bah.  Any 'shaping' is not the issue today. We need to get away from what was 'shaped' 150 years ago, lest we be stuck with miniscule provinces with 4 Senators and 4 MPs for just 150,000 people.   

Soudas says "Pierre Poilievre is dismantling the principled, trustworthy Conservative Party we tried to build"      "TRIED"   we DID build a new party - there is no 'trying'  Who says 'we' only 'tried'  ? 

Soudas "He claimed that Trudeau’s free vacation"   Like so many of the liberal spin-doctors you are missing the point here - Carney had just made an announcement about pumping more $$$ into the RCMP for more officers.  PP was doing what he was supposed to do - cast a critical eye on this and pointed out that systemic change needs to happen at the top of that organization to remove the political bias that has been so much in evidence in the recent past , such as the multi-thousand dollar holiday Aga Khan scandal.

Soudas says "Worst of all, Poilievre failed to build a team. A party rich with talent was never showcased. No foreign affairs lead. No visible finance minister. No credible plans for trade, immigration, or defence."     This is an attempt to deliberately gaslight the uninformed reader, of course there are shadow cabinet ministers for all these portfolios as both Soudas and BeaverFever know.  Why promote a piece with untruths like this in it BeaverFever?

This last comment on team building is the closest Soudas gets to a constructive comment -  With Carney claiming to be the ne plus ultra of all things Business,   I think PP needs to  have a specific Canadian Economy Shadow Minister ,  spreading Economy and Buiness pushback between Hallan LeFebre Lawrence and perhaps Kusi  is not targeted enough.

I keep an eye on one of the leading liberal spin-doctors who excretes on his youtube vehicle called the Bill Kelly Podcast   this Soudas piece is a dead-ringer for an video that Kelly put up  3 or 4 days ago.  Same points,  just more name calling and vitriol  .... GLTA

Edited October 23, 2025 by JohnnyCanuck

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Boy thanks for proving assholiness is a virtue among 'the right'.

Here's a few palate cleansers instead:

Wow. Your memes are just as dumb as you are. Thanks? I guess?

[TreeBeard]

PP really did not learn any lessons from the last election.  Sounding like Trump is not a good thing with normal Canadians. 
 

Even the NP is saying Poilievre isn’t fit to be the PM when he does stuff like this. 
 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-poilievres-lazy-rcmp-ad-lib-was-a-luxury-he-cant-afford

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They're scared. 

When they're trying to convince us or others about how terrible it must be, or how much people hate PP, they're really trying to convince themselves. 

People live in Bizarro World if they think that PP is the biggest problem with our federal gov't.

That's actual Goebbels-level propaganda. 

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

People live in Bizarro World if they think that PP is the biggest problem with our federal gov't.

That's actual Goebbels-level propaganda. 

If Poilievre is so ineffectual as some make out, why are they so afraid of him. The fear is palpable.

 

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

PP really did not learn any lessons from the last election.  Sounding like Trump is not a good thing with normal Canadians. 
 

Even the NP is saying Poilievre isn’t fit to be the PM when he does stuff like this. 
 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/chris-selley-poilievres-lazy-rcmp-ad-lib-was-a-luxury-he-cant-afford

Everything is relative, TB.

It's true that Poilievre can't get away with anything. Nothing at all. 

If he makes a single statement in a month that's 20% unpopular, that 20% of his message from that one statement will be 100% of his story for several months afterwards.

If Carney gets caught saying something that is 100% false, and highly important to Canadians, a CBC article about it will start off by lying about how great Carney is, and then will refer to his lie as "something the conservatives allege was a lie", and then in the 4th paragraph they will make a scant mention of his transgression.

 

Carney: "I played no role in moving Brookfield's HQ to NY." 

Facts: Carney was the chairman of Brookfield's board when they unanimously voted on moving, and then he wrote a letter to shareholders advising them to vote in favour as well.

Verdict: What Carney said was the exact opposite of the truth. He didn't just play a role, he probably played the biggest role of anyone on earth.  

CBC's actual article about Carney's lie: "Carney guided Canada through the 2008 recession. He is the best human who ever walked the earth. He was accused of lying by the conservatives."

 

Notice how when Carney was neither the PM nor the Finance Minister, he gets all the credit for leading Canada through the '08 recession, but when he's the chairman of Brookfield's board he can lead a unanimous vote to move their HQ and write a letter to the shareholders but somehow he wan't responsible? 

That is the media landscape that PP operates in, TB. He's already getting compared to Hitler for just for telling the truth about our f'ing emperor's new clothes, while the emperor can grind peons under his heel and CBC will say that he turned them into rose petals. 

Edited October 23, 2025 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

People live in Bizarro World if they think that PP is the biggest problem with our federal gov't.

That's actual Goebbels-level propaganda. 

And flat earth levels of self delusion, 

[Chrissy1979]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

If Poilievre is so ineffectual as some make out, why are they so afraid of him. The fear is palpable.

 

Because we’ve already seen how destructive MAGA candidates are and how they can get elected by their profoundly stupid base even when they’re obviously corrupt and unfit.

[CdnFox]

46 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Because we’ve already seen how destructive MAGA candidates are and how they can get elected by their profoundly stupid base even when they’re obviously corrupt and unfit.

Yeah we're seeing it right now with Carney. We're suggesting moving to someone who  DOES"T worship trump and do whatever he says   

[I am Groot]

On 10/22/2025 at 6:19 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

Carney’s changing tactics against Trump get the benefit of the doubt from most Canadians at the moment because they understand our country is under grave threat from without.

So you find nothing wrong with them spending the entire election pounding tables, insulting and threatening Americans, promising to go 'elbows up', sneering at the Conservatives as a party that would bow down to Trump, and then the instant he gets elected, bowing down to Trump and turning into a cringing flatterer?

[SpankyMcFarland]

51 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

So you find nothing wrong with them spending the entire election pounding tables, insulting and threatening Americans, promising to go 'elbows up', sneering at the Conservatives as a party that would bow down to Trump, and then the instant he gets elected, bowing down to Trump and turning into a cringing flatterer?

Like any reasonable Canadian, I find nothing wrong with having a flexible approach to an unprecedented threat. We’re not the primary problem here and it will take a while to figure things out and fix on an optimal strategy. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Because we’ve already seen how destructive MAGA candidates are and how they can get elected by their profoundly stupid base even when they’re obviously corrupt and unfit.

Yup desperately afraid. Like I said palpable.

[Legato]

13 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Like any reasonable Canadian, I find nothing wrong with having a flexible approach to an unprecedented threat. We’re not the primary problem here and it will take a while to figure things out and fix on an optimal strategy. 

Kowtowing is not flexibility. Canada has become a leaderless rudderless entity.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Like any reasonable Canadian, I find nothing wrong with having a flexible approach to an unprecedented threat. We’re not the primary problem here and it will take a while to figure things out and fix on an optimal strategy. 

There's nothing flexible, even before the election was over he started to give trump whatever he wants and continues to do so to this day

[Barquentine]

On 10/22/2025 at 1:54 AM, BeaverFever said:

PP is that much more irrelevant

Listening to PeePee's press conference the other day. He said something so supid I backed it up and put on subtitles to be sure. Speaking on youth he said: "They're living in their parent's basement into their 30's. Their rents have doubled."

So do they move or get new parents?

[Chrissy1979]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah we're seeing it right now with Carney. We're suggesting moving to someone who  DOES"T worship trump and do whatever he says   

So definitely not someone like you then.