Army Guy Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 Why do BC'ers hate Alberta so much.... It appears Premier Eby is digging his heals in on pipelines....There is no project, as there is no private funding....He makes it sound likes it is "his" funding and he will decide what projects will get advanced and what will not...And he is sabotaging other provinces projects in order to get more project money spent in BC....and yet he is only a premier...Not the PM....He also states that he will not accept any new pipelines because of the tanker ban...Not sure if the tanker ban is federal or provincial and can not find a source Quote n a third exchange on the topic Premier Eby was asked if he plans to oppose Alberta’s upcoming pipeline project application directly through his government or indirectly through first nations, to which he described the project bid as a “direct threat to the kind of economy we are trying to build.” It sounds like Eby is not a team player, but is only thinking about what is best for BC and not the nation....I think Moe says it best....it is not BC coast, but Canada's coast.... Eby doubles down on opposition to Alberta-backed pipeline project – True North Wire As Smith Pushes New Pipeline Plan, Eby Says No Way | The Tyee 'There is no B.C. coast. It's Canada's coast': Sask. premier supports Alta. pipeline proposal | Watch 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Nefarious Banana Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 Eby was 'gifted' the Premiership of BC . . . with a surplus. He and his brain~dead cabinet gave themselves a huge raise/benifit package. They have done nothing but spend the province into debt . . . with f'k~all to show for it. The LML/VI vote these stupid un~workable fools into power continuously . . . Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 He was also gifted Rustad who is not likely to survive much longer in his own party. I agree that Eby is failing on most fronts, and needs to change his talk and get on board if in fact this pipeline could be a reality. Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: .Not sure if the tanker ban is federal or provincial and can not find a source The Oil tanker moratorium on the BC north coast was brought in by the Trudeau federal government in 2016. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: He was also gifted Rustad who is not likely to survive much longer in his own party. I agree that Eby is failing on most fronts, and needs to change his talk and get on board if in fact this pipeline could be a reality. I don't think it is just EBY, i mean a lot of people from BC on this forum are also against a new pipe line....again not sure why they hate Alberta so much.... I agree, i think the agency to make those kinds of decisions is the feds and the new projects office.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 7 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I don't think it is just EBY, i mean a lot of people from BC on this forum are also against a new pipe line....again not sure why they hate Alberta so much.... I agree, i think the agency to make those kinds of decisions is the feds and the new projects office.... It doesn't matter what people in this forum think about a pipeline, it's what the province, FN's, Federal government and potential investors think. There is a lot more upside for AB than there is for BC with a pipeline so I can understand why and where the comments come from for those against it. Quote
Army Guy Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: It doesn't matter what people in this forum think about a pipeline, it's what the province, FN's, Federal government and potential investors think. There is a lot more upside for AB than there is for BC with a pipeline so I can understand why and where the comments come from for those against it. 2 out of the 5 first projects approved are in BC, Alberta has not even submitted this project and BC and it's premier are up in arms, making up excuses like he was the guy with the power to approve or disapprove...He is not...Maybe BC residents have not gotten the point of this liberal exercise....it has got nothing to do with BC , and everything about making CANADA a energy super power...BC has pipelines on it's wish list as well, so it can't be about pipelines....it's all about making sure Alberta gets nothing on the west coast....My question is why...And then there is Quebec, and the bloc party which also hates anything to do with Alberta...Quebec imports over 21 bil worth of foreign oil since 2016, at world market prices and refuses Alberta's much cheaper oil, so it is not that they don't like oil they just hate Alberta...love their money but hate where it comes from....These are two examples why this energy super power dream is just that a dream what was to unite us is dividing us... Cue trump and his 51 st state rhetoric again maybe this time it will take... And it is not just EBY, it's the liberals as well, as long as the anti pipeline policies and production quotas, are in place, Alberta will not get any pipelines....to any where....Not even sure how we can become an energy power house without Alberta... So no up side for the two projects BC has already on the books....what up sides does these projects have for Alberta...and yet Smith has not gone on national media and said These are not viable projects and Alberta does not approve of BC choices.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 BC opposition can be explained over and over, but if you refuse to listen, just keep blubbering about it. The majority of the people in BC don't have the right to decide on things in their own province, they're not real people. Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: He was also gifted Rustad who is not likely to survive much longer in his own party. Why wouldn't he continue as leader? Rustad recently received 71% support as leader from his party. That is a pretty good showing. Guess you believe the media NDP fiction. Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: it's what the province, FN's, Federal government and potential investors think. The BC NDP only represent about 40% of B.C. They don't speak for Canada on national projects. Neither to FNs who are only 5% of the population and have their own agenda that is not in Canada's interest. Much like environmentalists who oppose everything because they worship mother earth. Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 29 minutes ago, herbie said: BC opposition can be explained over and over, but if you refuse to listen, just keep blubbering about it. The majority of the people in BC don't have the right to decide on things in their own province, they're not real people. Pipelines are federal jurisdiction. BC has no say in it. BC is full of left wing eco warriors and anti industry nuts. That's why the dummies voted for the NDP in BC. Now nobody can afford to buy a home in Vancouver or even afford the high rents. Many condominiums are sitting empty in Vancouver too. Why is that? Many in Vancouver and Van Island are NDP and things are getting very expensive thanks to them. The BC govt is deep in debt now. BC has become a basket case under the NDP. Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) 37 minutes ago, herbie said: BC opposition can be explained over and over, but if you refuse to listen, just keep blubbering about it. The majority of the pNoeople in BC don't have the right to decide on things in their own province, they're not real people. NO, BC is not a sovereign independent country. The federal government has the jurisdiction over pipelines through any province and can authorize they be built. Remember BC opposed the expansion of the Trans Mountain Pipeline project and the BC NDP opposed it but they lost the battle. Edited October 7, 2025 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 3 hours ago, Army Guy said: ...I think Moe says it best....it is not BC coast, but Canada's coast... It's always been Ottawa's to mismanage, like the fish and fisheries off our coast. As a British Columbian that's why I don't want a pipeline and new tankers. If Ottawa managed Alberta's oil the way it manages BC's fish they might, assuming they care, understand our reluctance. As an Earthling I don't want more oil being burned, especially when its the filthiest oil on the planet. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 The BC NDP has made a mess of the province in many ways. Thousands of condominiums in greater Vancouver are empty and unsold even though nobody can afford the rent or cost of homes in greater Vancouver area. " Many condominiums in Vancouver are empty due to several factors: High Construction Costs: The cost of building condos has significantly increased, making them unaffordable for a large portion of the local population. Market Oversupply: There is an oversupply of newly built condos, with about 2,500 units currently unsold, leading to low pre-sales and buyer hesitation. Economic Uncertainty: Broader economic issues and uncertainty about the housing market have contributed to a lack of interest from buyers. Government Policies: Recent government policies have increased the cost of building, making it difficult for developers to build new projects economically. These factors combined have created a challenging environment for condominiums in Vancouver, resulting in many units remaining empty. 5 Sources Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: It's always been Ottawa's to mismanage, like the fish and fisheries off our coast. As a British Columbian that's why I don't want a pipeline and new tankers. If Ottawa managed Alberta's oil the way it manages BC's fish they might, assuming they care, understand our reluctance. As an Earthling I don't want more oil being burned, especially when its the filthiest oil on the planet. Doesn't matter what you want. Billions of people around the world depend on oil products for everything. If you don't like it, stop using it yourself and set an example of how it would be done without any oil products....LOL Maybe try living in a cave and eating off the land like the bears do. See how you like it. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 minute ago, eyeball said: It's always been Ottawa's to mismanage, like the fish and fisheries off our coast. As a British Columbian that's why I don't want a pipeline and new tankers. If Ottawa managed Alberta's oil the way it manages BC's fish they might, assuming they care, understand our reluctance. As an Earthling I don't want more oil being burned, especially when its the filthiest oil on the planet. And knowing all of that , you continued to fish right, because you had a career and had to put food on the table right....that would of been the time to protest....not after the fact... How do you know your not burning it right now....ya the climate guy burning the dirtiest oil on the planet got to feel good to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 58 minutes ago, Army Guy said: 2 out of the 5 first projects approved are in BC, Alberta has not even submitted this project and BC and it's premier are up in arms, making up excuses like he was the guy with the power to approve or disapprove...He is not...Maybe BC residents have not gotten the point of this liberal exercise....it has got nothing to do with BC , and everything about making CANADA a energy super power...BC has pipelines on it's wish list as well, so it can't be about pipelines....it's all about making sure Alberta gets nothing on the west coast....My question is why...And then there is Quebec, and the bloc party which also hates anything to do with Alberta...Quebec imports over 21 bil worth of foreign oil since 2016, at world market prices and refuses Alberta's much cheaper oil, so it is not that they don't like oil they just hate Alberta...love their money but hate where it comes from....These are two examples why this energy super power dream is just that a dream what was to unite us is dividing us... Cue trump and his 51 st state rhetoric again maybe this time it will take... And it is not just EBY, it's the liberals as well, as long as the anti pipeline policies and production quotas, are in place, Alberta will not get any pipelines....to any where....Not even sure how we can become an energy power house without Alberta... So no up side for the two projects BC has already on the books....what up sides does these projects have for Alberta...and yet Smith has not gone on national media and said These are not viable projects and Alberta does not approve of BC choices.... There's a good argument that we should be expanding our LNG exports rather than the non-stop talk about an oil pipeline. With tanker bans in place for the coast those need to be addressed by federal government before this goes anywhere, if it even does... Both Smith and Eby are doing nothing more than posturing for their provinces. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 52 minutes ago, blackbird said: Why wouldn't he continue as leader? Rustad recently received 71% support as leader from his party. That is a pretty good showing. Guess you believe the media NDP fiction. 71% support in your own party is hardly 'pretty good'. I'd call it so so. You assume far too often and naturally fall back to the 'believing what media' told me because it doesn't align with your thoughts. Info is not hard to find on the radio, print or television.... There are factions within the BC Conservative Party clashing about whether Rustad should remain leader or not and personally, I get the feeling he doesn't survive. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: The BC NDP only represent about 40% of B.C. They don't speak for Canada on national projects. Neither to FNs who are only 5% of the population and have their own agenda that is not in Canada's interest. Much like environmentalists who oppose everything because they worship mother earth. They speak for BC which a pipeline would obviously pass through. There is a reason environmentalists and ordinary care about mother earth. We're ruining it and want to see it sustainable for the unlimited number of generations that come after us. Question though... How does a northern pipeline benefit you and Canada as a whole? Quote
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: They speak for BC which a pipeline would obviously pass through. There is a reason environmentalists and ordinary care about mother earth. We're ruining it and want to see it sustainable for the unlimited number of generations that come after us. Question though... How does a northern pipeline benefit you and Canada as a whole? I'm surprised you don't know how it would benefit Canada. A pipeline to the north coast would allow Canada to sell much more oil to Asia and the rest of the world. It would therefore increase production and create thousands of jobs in the construction and operation process. This would bring in billions of dollars in royalties, corporate taxes, and private income taxes to Alberta and the federal government. It would create thousands of spin off jobs as well. Canada could become an energy superpower. It would also enable Canada to move away from dependency on the U.S. as our main customer, which pays a lower price for our oil. Perhaps a refinery in Prince Rupert or area could also provide more lower cost fuel products to B.C. Edited October 7, 2025 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: And knowing all of that , you continued to fish right, because you had a career and had to put food on the table right....that would of been the time to protest....not after the fact... There's a lot more to fish management than just fishing. And any coin that says overfishing on one side says mismanagement on the other. Someone let fishermen fish, loggers log, miners mine, farmers farm, developers develop...all these and more affect fishing to. I had to give up fishing for good 15 years ago after 7 years of protesting. I'm not protesting against pipelines, I'm voting against them. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Doesn't matter what you want. That's right, government dictates rule. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
blackbird Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) 33 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: There is a reason environmentalists and ordinary care about mother earth. We're ruining it and want to see it sustainable for the unlimited number of generations that come after us. Mankind always has an impact on the environment but man does keep the impact to a minimum. All industries and the mere existence of man on earth has some impact. God created man and gave him dominion over the earth. The oil industry is a vital industry and required for mankind everyone for fuel and many other products. It can be managed for minimal impact on the environment just as any other industry and presence of man. Contrary to what environmentalists believe, man has a right to exist on earth and use its resources to provide a good life for everyone. Edited October 7, 2025 by blackbird Quote
eyeball Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: God created man and gave him dominion over the earth. Okay, dominion includes over people who want to ruin Earth's ecosystems and make a good part of it increasingly unlivable. You're the one who says man can't control the climate or weather so man will need to control man instead. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
herbie Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Pipelines are federal jurisdiction. BC has no say in it. F U it doesn't. Why do you think there aren't any to the East Coast? 17 minutes ago, blackbird said: Mankind always has an impact on the environment Yeah, and you can revise that quote to "The meek shall inherit what's left of the Earth" while you're at it. Alberta was given 5 conditions by a previous surrender monkey BC govt. Alberta refused them. Now the bullheaded cow in charge just repeats the same denied demand over and louder. And you're listening to that. Ooooh, you're as good a negotiator as she is. Gimme what I want! Now! Gimme! OR ELSE.... Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: 71% support in your own party is hardly 'pretty good'. I'd call it so so. You assume far too often and naturally fall back to the 'believing what media' told me because it doesn't align with your thoughts. Info is not hard to find on the radio, print or television.... There are factions within the BC Conservative Party clashing about whether Rustad should remain leader or not and personally, I get the feeling he doesn't survive. Have heard John Rustad on the radio/talk shows . . . he answers every question in a straight~forward manner, doesn't dance around a question like the NDP do. He has a working man's logic on how to get things going . . . in short, he makes sense. Eby on the other hand, has a scattered mind on any topic he's quizzed on by any moderator who isn't a CBC stooge. BC deserves better than Eby and his band of brain~dead penguins . . . eyeball . . . you couldn't even push your vehicle into the garage without oil~industry products. Dream on. Quote
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