The shutdown

[Gaétan]

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

?????  As bigger as my president?  What does that even mean? And for that matter what president?

you literally just admitted it was under 70,000.  You're insane. 

They do not downplay the numbers and the fact that they don't say how many were combatants proves they're not credible.

And you're either drunk or poorly coded. 

Sorry, I made a mistake: 9 months equals 186,000 deaths, so 24 months would make 496,000 deaths in Gaza. My apologies.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Sorry, I made a mistake: 9 months equals 186,000 deaths, so 24 months would make 496,000 deaths in Gaza. My apologies.

That wasn't your mistake kid  

[Fluffypants]

How many Gazans did Hamas kill by hiding their weapons and bases in hospitals forcing Israel to target them and from their theft of aid every time it was brought it.

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

How many Gazans did Hamas kill by hiding their weapons and bases in hospitals forcing Israel to target them and from their theft of aid every time it was brought it.

First of all, they weren’t forced into anything, and the army deliberately targeted hospitals to finish off the wounded and kill doctors and nurses. That’s a war crime for which they will have to answer before justice.

[Fluffypants]

41 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

First of all, they weren’t forced into anything, and the army deliberately targeted hospitals to finish off the wounded and kill doctors and nurses. That’s a war crime for which they will have to answer before justice.

Under whose authority can Israel be tried? 

 

Edited October 21, 2025 by Fluffypants

[Gaétan]

15 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Under whose authority can Israel be tried? 

 

The justice system in this country is too corrupt to imprison its criminals, but other countries can do so if they cross their borders.

[WestCanMan]

On 10/11/2025 at 4:31 PM, Gaétan said:

Ya but the free bombs sent to the Israel army for the genocide got to be paid.

You have no clue what the word genocide even means you low IQ bigot. 

If Hamas had the power over there, there would be a real genocide, and Iran would love it. 

[paxamericana]

I like how this thread is going. It's already America's fault for a alleged genocide between mutual combatant.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The justice system in this country is too corrupt to imprison its criminals, but other countries can do so if they cross their borders.

Other countries? Which other countries. Do you not realize the Zionists have control of the international monetary system?

At least try to live within some semblance of reality.

[WestCanMan]

38 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I like how this thread is going. It's already America's fault for a alleged genocide between mutual combatant.

Jesus Christ, man. What's not Trump's fault right now? 

Have you not been paying attention?

If he was anonymously accused of murdering Jimmy Hoffa tonight, the left could whip up 200,000 protesters by lunchtime tomorrow. 

[CdnFox]

24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Jesus Christ, man. What's not Trump's fault right now? 

Have you not been paying attention?

If he was anonymously accused of murdering Jimmy Hoffa tonight, the left could whip up 200,000 protesters by lunchtime tomorrow. 

Ahhh but he claimed it was biden's fault when biden was in, so at least he's an equal opportunity delusional psychotic bot-person   

[Gaétan]

On 10/12/2025 at 9:40 AM, User said:

So… if they can’t count, where did you get your number from? 

Trump isn’t the one who caused the shutdown.

Are you ignorant of how this works?

Republicans passed a spending bill in the House, Senate Democrats refused to support it, because 60 votes are needed. 
 

 

Trump is not interested in making compromises because he wants the shutdown to continue indefinitely in order to save money to repay war debts

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Trump is not interested in making compromises because he wants the shutdown to continue indefinitely in order to save money to repay war debts

Probably the only sane thing you've said on this forum, except for the war debts part. 

The shutdown tends to work in his favour as it lets him downsize "for free" and he's made the dems look like it's their fault. At this point he can cut costs and save money and the dems will be the ones who 'forced him to do it'.  

Of course it won't save much money but with his deficits he needs all the money he can get 

[Gaétan]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Probably the only sane thing you've said on this forum, except for the war debts part. 

The shutdown tends to work in his favour as it lets him downsize "for free" and he's made the dems look like it's their fault. At this point he can cut costs and save money and the dems will be the ones who 'forced him to do it'.  

Of course it won't save much money but with his deficits he needs all the money he can get 

He may well blame the woke for being responsible for the deficit, but there has never been a woke government in the United States, The Democrats and Republicans aren't woke — they're just piles of corrupt garbage.

Edited October 21, 2025 by Gaétan

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Gaétan said:

He may well blame the woke for being responsible for the deficit, but there has never been a woke government in the United States, The Democrats and Republicans aren't woke — they're just piles of corrupt garbage.

I never said anything about woke.  You're so weird. 

[User]

19 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Trump is not interested in making compromises because he wants the shutdown to continue indefinitely in order to save money to repay war debts

Trump isn’t doing anything.

You literally have no clue what you are talking about 

[WestCanMan]

On 10/20/2025 at 8:06 PM, Gaétan said:

First of all, they weren’t forced into anything, and the army deliberately targeted hospitals to finish off the wounded and kill doctors and nurses. That’s a war crime for which they will have to answer before justice.

Gaetan, do you feel like one side tells the absolute truth about everything, all the time, and the other side lies about everything, all the time?

Can I ask you a second question? If a 17-yr old carries a gun around, shoots at IDF soldiers, and spits on the dead bodies of raped and murdered women, and then gets killed by an Israeli soldier, do you count that 17 yr old as a Hamas terrorist, a Palestinian soldier, or a child? 

If a Gazan woman stores/hides weapons, explosives and ammo, hides kidnap victims, and helps plot ways to ambush and kill IDF troops, and even shoots at Israeli soldiers, then gets killed, is she considered a woman, a terrorist, or a soldier? 

Why will Gaza never cease to make war on Israel? Is their war against Israel justified?

What do you think Hamas's goal is for Israel? Just to win their own sovereignty, to take over all of Israel, or to kill all Israelis?

Just answer the questions, Gaetan. Put on your big-boy pants and say some honest words. You have very pointed opinions on this matter, you should relish the opportunity to illuminate us with the truth. Don't be scared. 

Edited October 22, 2025 by WestCanMan

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Gaetan, do you feel like one side tells the absolute truth about everything, all the time, and the other side lies about everything, all the time?

Can I ask you a second question? If a 17-yr old carries a gun around, shoots at IDF soldiers, and spits on the dead bodies of raped and murdered women, and then gets killed by an Israeli soldier, do you count that 17 yr old as a Hamas terrorist, a Palestinian soldier, or a child? 

If a Gazan woman stores/hides weapons, explosives and ammo, hides kidnap victims, and helps plot ways to ambush and kill IDF troops, and even shoots at Israeli soldiers, then gets killed, is she considered a woman, a terrorist, or a soldier? 

Why will Gaza never cease to make war on Israel? Is their war against Israel justified?

What do you think Hamas's goal is for Israel? Just to win their own sovereignty, to take over all of Israel, or to kill all Israelis?

Just answer the questions, Gaetan. Put on your big-boy pants and say some honest words. You have very pointed opinions on this matter, you should relish the opportunity to illuminate us with the truth. Don't be scared. 

Israeli agents knew that Hamas was going to attack, and they let it happen to justify attacking Gaza, killing 500,000 people, and stealing their land.

[Fluffypants]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Israeli agents knew that Hamas was going to attack, and they let it happen to justify attacking Gaza, killing 500,000 people, and stealing their land.

I see someone subscribes to Al Jazeera

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Israeli agents knew that Hamas was going to attack, and they let it happen to justify attacking Gaza, killing 500,000 people, and stealing their land.

Stop with the narratives, Gaetan.

Focus on the things that you know to be 100% true.

In 1947, Pakistanis killed almost a million men women and children. They did it personally. None of the Sikhs and Hindus who were killed, were killed by bombs, Gaetan. They were all killed with guns, knives, by hanging, or burned to death with gasoline. A lot of them were killed with gasoline. And their broken bodies were displayed to install terror in non-muslims, and drive them out of Pakistan. 

Between 7 and 8 million people, whose ancestors had lived there for millennia, were driven out of Pakistan and still haven't returned. 

On that same day, while all of those people were being slaughtered and driven from their homes, IRAN FORGAVE PAKISTAN.

Iran normalized relations with Pakistan on that very day and welcomed them as a legitimate country, and to this day they have never said a word about anyone's right to return there.

 

The "Nabka" was nothing. Nothing. Compared to that. Less than 500 people were killed, compared to 700,000 AT THE VERY LEAST. Some estimates are as high as 1.5M. The massacre was on such a massive scale that no one will ever know.

 

By every estimate by anyone, anywhere on the planet, Pakistanis killed more Sikhs and Hindus on August 14 1947 than Israel has killed in every single day of their existence since they became a sovereign country in 1948. That includes all the wars where the Israelis were attacked by half a dozen or more countries. That includes every single intefada. That includes everyone that died in a Hamas tunnel. Everyone who died on a street in Gaza, or in a building. Everyone. Ever. The Israelis haven't killed 1/4 of the people that Pakistan killed in one single day. 

And then, in 1971, Pakistan committed another genocide that was definitely over 1 million people. Maybe as many as 3M people.

 

Does Iran fund terrorist attacks against Pakistan, Gaetan? 

 

How is it that Pakistan is well-respected in the middle east, after they have committed two separate genocides, both of which killed several thousand times as many people as died in "the nabka". 

 

Tell me where the hate comes from, Gaetan.

You tell me how there is still so much hatred about 1948, and none about 1947, where several thousand times as many people were killed. Tell me Gaetan. Make it make sense, without using the word BIGOTRY you f'ing worthless dog. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Israeli agents knew that Hamas was going to attack, and they let it happen to justify attacking Gaza, killing 500,000 people, and stealing their land.

This is an outright lie. 

[gatomontes99]

Dollars are committing political suicide:

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CNN (via RCP)

HARRY ENTEN, CNN: You might think, given that the Republicans are in charge of both the House and the Senate, that a government shutdown might actually hurt the Republican brand — but in fact, it hasn’t.

If anything, it’s been helped a little bit. Take a look here — the shift in net popularity versus pre-shutdown. When we’re looking at the Republican Party overall, that brand is actually up two points. That’s within the margin of error, but clearly it hasn’t dropped.

Come over to this side of the screen — look at the net approval ratings for Republicans in Congress. It’s actually up five points since pre-shutdown.

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There is a video there if reading is too hard. 

The Republicans are gaining ground in the pools and democrats have the lowest favorability rating in decades. 

[gatomontes99]

I like how Schumer is saying Trump should act unilaterally to pay SNAP when just last week he was decrying Trump for being too much like a king! 

They don't mind being hypocritical. They don't care at all. They assume the MSM (aka the acting propaganda wing of the DNC) will cover for them. 

Edited October 30, 2025 by gatomontes99

[Fluffypants]

3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

I like how Schumer is saying Trump should act unilaterally to pay SNAP when just last week he was decaying Trump for being too much like a king! 

I bet if he did they would immediately sue him saying he doesn't have the power to it.