"Dear Republicans, I’ve been wondering... if there was literally anything that your party could do" that is too far over the line?

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

Nope.  I just don’t pay a lot of attention to what he says, and I don’t care if he’s an a-hole.  Same with Pierre, I don’t need a nice feel good personality.  I need someone to implement good policy.  Policy trumps personality.  Anyone that puts personality before policy is a child.  In Canada we have very childish voters, that continue to put in nice feel good politicians in office that make their lives worse.  I applaud American voters for holding their nose and voting for Trump because of policy issues, not personality.  It’s grown up voting.

I don’t believe you. Explain what your policy red lines are that would cause you to stop supporting Trump. Trump doesn’t even have policies he issues random surprise edicts that surprise even his own cabinet and spokespeople. He flip-flops and backtracks. Even Trump doesn’t know what he is going to do next.   Which Trump policy did you support, when he said Ukraine should surrender to Russia or when he said Ukraine should take back the territory Russia annexed?

He’s started a global trade war that tanked what had been a growing US economy along with the global economy and has offered ZERO evidence that anything good will come of it. Meanwhile all the existing literature on the subject of trade and economics supports the reality that tariffs are bad for everyone and will damage the US economy.  He’s told outrageous lies about Canada and including calling for its annexation do you support that policy?

[gatomontes99]

25 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I don’t believe you. Explain what your policy red lines are that would cause you to stop supporting Trump. Trump doesn’t even have policies he issues random surprise edicts that surprise even his own cabinet and spokespeople. He flip-flops and backtracks. Even Trump doesn’t know what he is going to do next.   Which Trump policy did you support, when he said Ukraine should surrender to Russia or when he said Ukraine should take back the territory Russia annexed?

He’s started a global trade war that tanked what had been a growing US economy along with the global economy and has offered ZERO evidence that anything good will come of it. Meanwhile all the existing literature on the subject of trade and economics supports the reality that tariffs are bad for everyone and will damage the US economy.  He’s told outrageous lies about Canada and including calling for its annexation do you support that policy?

Yeah, we are growing at 3.4% and inflation is slightly high, but stable. However, the Dow, S&P and NASDAQ are all in record territory. If you invested in anything diversified, you are way up. I have one fund over 20% YTD and the lowest is 7%. There is no such thing as a bad economy here. IT...JUST...AINT...HAPPENING.

[BeaverFever]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's entirely different

Not at all. Trump and his minions are unqualified, and Trump’s rule-by-decree edicts are erratic and contradict all accepted knowledge of how economics work and have already sabotaged the US economy. Even his own people can’t explain his thinking and what will happen next. And yet Trump supporters not only defend the indefensible but proclaim it to be “the greatest in history”. 
 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, that's your bias opinion.

No, as above.  plus his bribe club and the billions he’s made just this year alone from his crypto meme coin 
 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Biden was demonstrably mentally incompetent, and it came out he had been for at least three years. And someone else was largely in control during that time and we don't know who

Wrong. Once again you mix up real news with the fake news crap you get from social media and the right wing fever swamp. 
 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Why was his wife with him in so many meetings?

She wasn’t. More fake news. The real story was that like ALL First Ladies she made the rare appearance at Cabinet to brief them on her First Lady initiatives and as usual the Right wing fake news machine completely distorted that beyond all recognition. It’s what they do. 
 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, he has classic dementia and it's painfully obvious.  Let me be blunt - there is no exaggerating that and even trying to say he doesn't REALLY have it invalidates everything you say and makes you nothing more than a cult worshipper.  He's got dementia and it's pretty strong and we now know the white house knew it and was actively covering it up for at least 3 years. He also had parkinsons.

There's no shame in the elderly getting dementia, but there is in pretending he didn't to prop him up as a puppet for political gain. 

No, he doesn’t have “classic dementia” signs. Here he is giving speeches earlier this year, someone with “classic dementia” couldn’t and wouldn’t do that  

I fins it hilarious that whenever people won’t believe your fake news you accuse them of being in a cult  I don’t worship Biden, he is old and doddering and therefore unpresidential  But you people really need to look up the meaning of the word cult and not just throw around words that have mo meaning  

 

 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No,  He could not.  At least not most of the time. He may have lucid moments but this is NOT debatable, mentally he was completely incompetent for the job. Period. And they knew that.

When they called the debate so early my first post here was "they're trying him out to see if he's still fit enough to get through an election campaign and they'll replace him if they don't like what they see".  They knew there was no hiding it. They knew it was over for him long ago. 

The democrats deliberately propped up a person with failing mental health to pretend to be president while others called the shots for at least 3 years instead of doing the right thing. That's the way that went. 

THe dems need to own that, apologize for it, and give people reason to believe that it can't happen again and that the people responsible are gone and start to rebuild that trust. Because that trust is broken. 

 

The Dems were wrong to run Biden, his is physically frail and no longer mentally and verbally quick and it’s true that they did try to hide that.   Yes, they should own that.

The party has a big gerontocracy problem as the established leaders won’t step aside and hand their book of political clients to the next generation. Or perhaps the clients of the Dem party won’t agree to support the next generation which is more left wing than the establishment Democrats who are actually quite centrist on economic issues despite republican fear-mongering to the contrary.

But you exaggerate Biden’s mental condition. Your claims about him having Parkinson’s are also fake news.  He is not being treated for Parkinson's disease, has not been diagnosed with it, and his doctors have found no reason to suspect it. It’s just another fake news internet rumour started by republicans because he was given an routine neurological assessment due to his age and the neurologist happened to also be an expert in Parkinson’s. 
 

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Trump may be an !diot, and he may be a complete narcissistic sociopath. But he isn't mentally incompetent yet and fact is his economy is doing surprisingly well. If the next quarter finishes the way this quarter did then people are going to start having to admit that his policies are working.

What are you talking about?  Trump inherited an economy that was described as “firing on all cylinders” all the needles moving in the right direction and now they’re all going backwards:
 

- After completely tanking the stock market, they’re now only 10% higher than when he took office, which is lower than Obama,  Biden and Trump 1.0 at this point in their term.  

-US dollar is the worst performing under Trump 2.0 compared to the 3 as well.  

-Inflation is back up to where it was when he took office in January. Consumer confidence went off a cliff at the start of the year and hasn’t recovered.  

- GDP is only up because imports have been choked off  

- Unemployment has increased since Trump took office 

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker/economy

 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Not at all. Trump and his minions are unqualified, and Trump’s rule-by-decree edicts are erratic and contradict all accepted knowledge of how economics work and have already sabotaged the US economy. Even his own people can’t explain his thinking and what will happen next. And yet Trump supporters not only defend the indefensible but proclaim it to be “the greatest in history”. 
 

No, as above.  plus his bribe club and the billions he’s made just this year alone from his crypto meme coin 
 

Wrong. Once again you mix up real news with the fake news crap you get from social media and the right wing fever swamp. 
 

She wasn’t. More fake news. The real story was that like ALL First Ladies she made the rare appearance at Cabinet to brief them on her First Lady initiatives and as usual the Right wing fake news machine completely distorted that beyond all recognition. It’s what they do. 
 

No, he doesn’t have “classic dementia” signs. Here he is giving speeches earlier this year, someone with “classic dementia” couldn’t and wouldn’t do that  

I fins it hilarious that whenever people won’t believe your fake news you accuse them of being in a cult  I don’t worship Biden, he is old and doddering and therefore unpresidential  But you people really need to look up the meaning of the word cult and not just throw around words that have mo meaning  

 

 

The Dems were wrong to run Biden, his is physically frail and no longer mentally and verbally quick and it’s true that they did try to hide that.   Yes, they should own that.

The party has a big gerontocracy problem as the established leaders won’t step aside and hand their book of political clients to the next generation. Or perhaps the clients of the Dem party won’t agree to support the next generation which is more left wing than the establishment Democrats who are actually quite centrist on economic issues despite republican fear-mongering to the contrary.

But you exaggerate Biden’s mental condition. Your claims about him having Parkinson’s are also fake news.  He is not being treated for Parkinson's disease, has not been diagnosed with it, and his doctors have found no reason to suspect it. It’s just another fake news internet rumour started by republicans because he was given an routine neurological assessment due to his age and the neurologist happened to also be an expert in Parkinson’s. 
 

What are you talking about?  Trump inherited an economy that was described as “firing on all cylinders” all the needles moving in the right direction and now they’re all going backwards:
 

- After completely tanking the stock market, they’re now only 10% higher than when he took office, which is lower than Obama,  Biden and Trump 1.0 at this point in their term.  

-US dollar is the worst performing under Trump 2.0 compared to the 3 as well.  

-Inflation is back up to where it was when he took office in January. Consumer confidence went off a cliff at the start of the year and hasn’t recovered.  

- GDP is only up because imports have been choked off  

- Unemployment has increased since Trump took office 

https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker/economy

 

It is entirely different than literally every way. I'm sorry but Biden had severely incapacitating mental health ailments that would have prevented him from doing his job properly. Trump has always been a little nuts but that's what people voted for, he's not suffering from the same cognitive decline.

And you don't get to decide whether or not trump is qualified. That is for the voters and they have spoken. They have said that he is qualified and he is their choice to leave the country. That is not the same as someone getting dementia and being unfit to be able to do the job after they were elected.

And I'm sorry, your opinion doesn't matter. You might not like his crypto but it's not illegal.

And yes she was at the meetings and that was widely reported and confirmed and we're not talking about public appearances we're talking about closed door events she shouldn't have been at. We had stories on it here.

And he absolutely has the classic dementia signs. One of my family members ran an old age care facility for decades and I got suckered into helping out constantly. I know what dementia looks like and they know what to mention it looks like and many experts commented on the fact that it appeared to be on set dementia. And virtually everyone agreed that it was Parkinson's

You need to stop lying about this shit to yourself. It is a fundamental truth that he was in severe mental decline and they covered it up and hit it instead of doing what the constitution allows for and removing him. That happened. Why should anyone ever trust them again when they constantly said he was absolutely fit with no problems?

As far as the economy goes The economy inherited wasn't great to be honest. As we found out many of the figures were completely wrong and corrected "on adjustment".  There's a reason why Americans absolutely gave him a failing grade on the economy.

But it wasn't all that bad either. I should clarify what I meant, I meant that it's predicted by many, myself included if I'm being honest, that is tariffs and policy would be an anchor to growth and he would underperform in the second and third quarters.

Surprisingly he had an unusually strong second quarter. 3% growth is a good solid economy, I was expecting it to come in at closer to 2, it came in at 3.8. And even top economists have started saying that It's time to admit that they were wrong and the economy isn't suffering from the tariffs nearly as bad as they had thought.

If he has another quarter like that the debate will be over and his policies will have been justified.

I found that a little surprising so when I said he's doing surprisingly well I literally mean I'm surprised

 

 

[BeaverFever]

36 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Yeah, we are growing at 3.4% and inflation is slightly high, but stable. However, the Dow, S&P and NASDAQ are all in record territory. If you invested in anything diversified, you are way up. I have one fund over 20% YTD and the lowest is 7%. There is no such thing as a bad economy here. IT...JUST...AINT...HAPPENING.

What’s funny is that when the markets go up under Democrats Republicans claim that the markets are not the economy and have nothing to do with the president but when there’s a Republican president they say the opposite. 
 

Here’s a tip for you though, markets always go up in the longer run and they’d be a lot higher if Trump hadn’t tanked the markets earlier this year with his tariffs. They’ve also increased by a lot LESS than they did under Biden and Obama. 

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Here’s a tip for you though, markets always go up in the longer run and they’d be a lot higher if Trump hadn’t tanked the markets earlier this year with his tariffs. They’ve also increased by a lot LESS than they did under Biden and Obama. 

The facts cast thr first part of that in serious doubt.  and the second part is just flat wrong. 

Remember what we've talked about when it comes to having to lie to make your point   

[User]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

They’ve also increased by a lot LESS than they did under Biden and Obama. 

You just say crap with no care in the world for it being true or not. 

 

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, Shady said:

I care about policy.  That’s it.  Regardless every government lies.  I care about policy.

Since they're LYING ALL THE TIME, YOU never know what the policy really is.

This week Mike Johnson stated that the new Dem rep would be sworn in on Monday.

Then he apparently heard from Trump and decided the House would be OUT next week.

Cause Trump wants to continue the Epstein Files COVERUP. 🤮

Does it bother you that Epstein's paedo buddies as escaping accountability under the LAW?

Does that CROSS YOUR LINE?

 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Not to mention that he openly floated the idea of just blatantly stacking the SC by adding 4 new SCJ's. 

That's basically saying: "Should we just put the final nail in the coffin of democracy?"

No it's NOT. It is saying that Republican stacking of the court needs to be CORRECTED.

Esp when they are taking bribes like THOMAS has been...

6 hours ago, Shady said:

Nope.  I just don’t pay a lot of attention to what he says, and I don’t care if he’s an a-hole.  Same with Pierre, I don’t need a nice feel good personality.  I need someone to implement good policy.  Policy trumps personality.  Anyone that puts personality before policy is a child.  In Canada we have very childish voters, that continue to put in nice feel good politicians in office that make their lives worse.  I applaud American voters for holding their nose and voting for Trump because of policy issues, not personality.  It’s grown up voting.

So the character who GRIFFS the public for his own profit when he's supposed to be working for the public good is NOT CROSSIN YOUR LINE, because you're a FRAUD, TOO.

[User]

28 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No it's NOT. It is saying that Republican stacking of the court needs to be CORRECTED.

Esp when they are taking bribes like THOMAS has been...

You just repeat the same BS from threads you have long run away from before like the coward you are. 

It is not "stacking" the court when justices are appointed through the normal process and Thomas was not taking any bribes. 

 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, User said:

You just repeat the same BS from threads you have long run away from before like the coward you are. 

It is not "stacking" the court when justices are appointed through the normal process and Thomas was not taking any bribes. 

 

He hasn't figured out what stacking is.  

Mind you in fairness he spent 2.5 years struggling with 'cognitive dissonance' and what it means  

[Nationalist]

People...these Libbies dont give a rat's ass about reality, truth, respect or morality. They have none of these traits. What they have is pure, unadulterated hatred.

ANTIFA can attack people at will and they excuse it.

Illegals can rape, murder and otherwise ignore the law and they excuse it.

Hell they even deny that Brandon let millions waltz into the country.

There is nothing beneath their rage. 

Perhaps their rage should be met with equal and overwhelming force? Perhaps it's time to send the military to cities and introduce these destructive little sh1ts to live ammo?

They declared war on peace loving, common sense folks long ago.

Perhaps it's time to meet their challenge?

Edited October 4, 2025 by Nationalist

[Venandi]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

I don’t believe you

I feel much the same... do ya believe me?

On a personal level, the only thing I like about Trump is his wife.

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Explain what your policy red lines are that would cause you to stop supporting Trump.

Most of the reasoning has been explained above and repeatedly on other threads, the fact that you don't believe it requires deliberate effort and only extends our collective purgatory on Crazy Island. 

In short, Trump would have to become more bat shi% crazy than Democratic contenders and more unhinged and hateful than progressive voters. I don't see that happening in the near term and I'll always show up at the voting booth to cancel "Hateful Herb's" vote.  If I were in the US i'd do the same for Roboduh. Want a deeper dive into the why of it? Read their posting histories and reflect on the fact that I will always stand opposed to the hateful BS you'll find there.

You worked hard at getting this see-saw in motion and studiously ignored all the warnings of what was sure to happen. Essentially,  you forced me into the voting position I'm in now and there is nothing left to vote for but extreme positions. It's become a matter of picking your poison and I see your elixir of choice as more potent and more destructive. I also fear that all of this gets worse before it gets better... I think the amplitude of the see-saw will only increase and I'm willing to bet that you, Herb and Robo will be among the folks jumping on it. 

Ever since the political ground shifted under my feet and the idea of continuing to vote liberal became abhorrent I've been a political agnostic. The biggest and most lamentable loss has been in the political  centre. The coals of polarization were stoked for cynical political gain, it was done deliberately IMO and the price of it was always lost territory in the political centre... it's valuable territory, the sort of level ground that keeps the trains on track and on time. 

Show me good policy and the absence of BSC and I'll vote for it. This isn't complicated.

 

Edited October 4, 2025 by Venandi

[Nationalist]

Well well well...

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-agrees-release-israeli-hostages-part-trumps-gaza-peace-plan-rcna234632

More peace deals.

Thank-you President Trump.

[Venandi]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well well well...

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-agrees-release-israeli-hostages-part-trumps-gaza-peace-plan-rcna234632

More peace deals.

Thank-you President Trump.

Yup, and if you think liberal heads are exploding now wait untill he gets the Nobel Peace Prize.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Venandi said:

Yup, and if you think liberal heads are exploding now wait untill he gets the Nobel Peace Prize.

Which IMO...he should.

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, Nationalist said:

People...these Libbies dont give a rat's ass about reality, truth, respect or morality. They have none of these traits. What they have is pure, unadulterated hatred.

ANTIFA can attack people at will and they excuse it.

Illegals can rape, murder and otherwise ignore the law and they excuse it.

Hell they even deny that Brandon let millions waltz into the country.

There is nothing beneath their rage. 

Perhaps their rage should be met with equal and overwhelming force? Perhaps it's time to send the military to cities and introduce these destructive little sh1ts to live ammo?

They declared war on peace loving, common sense folks long ago.

Perhaps it's time to meet their challenge?

While YOU ^SPECLATION is COMPLETE BULLSHIT, we KNOW that you continually DEFEND ALL of Trump's CRIMES.

You're even NOW suggesting Trump SHOULD violate the POSSE COMMITATUS ACT. 🤮

Thanks for admitting that RIGHT HERE.

 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well well well...

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/hamas-says-agrees-release-israeli-hostages-part-trumps-gaza-peace-plan-rcna234632

More peace deals.

Thank-you President Trump.

^Thanking Trump for ENABLING the MURDER of 60,000 Palestinian civilians. 🤮

All the anti-Semitism that has been triggered lately is ON Trump AND Netanyahu the WAR CRIMINAL.

6 hours ago, Venandi said:

Yup, and if you think liberal heads are exploding now wait untill he gets the Nobel Peace Prize.

He will NEVER get that after enabling the MURDER of 60K Palestinians.

[User]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

He will NEVER get that after enabling the MURDER of 60K Palestinians.

There was no murder of 60,000 Palestinians. 

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

He will NEVER get that after enabling the MURDER of 60K Palestinians.

"The BABY has spoken!"

AND, as YOU have WISELY pointed OUT before:

"... you're not the only lDIOT saying ^these things." 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 4, 2025 by Venandi

[robosmith]

Just now, Venandi said:

"The BABY has spoken!"

As YOU have WISELY said BEFORE:

"... you're not the only lDIOT saying ^these things." 

ANOTHER ^FALSE EQUIVALENCE from the PARROT.

Can you even figure out what "the baby" means? LMAO

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Can you even figure out what "the baby" means? LMAO

The monkey says:

"You got no point cause you're a clown. AKA NOT serious."

Edited October 4, 2025 by Venandi

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Venandi said:

The monkey says:

"You got no point cause you're a clown. AKA NOT serious."

PARROT posts ^ANOTHER FALSE EQUIVALENCE; this time to COVER FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND. LMAO

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

PARROT posts ^ANOTHER FALSE EQUIVALENCE; this time to COVER FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND. LMAO

TOTALLY TRIGGEED LEFTIE aka ROBOSTOOGE post FAKE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT OTHERS because he's BIG MAD ABOUT BEING WRONG AND THINKS ALL CAPS WILL HELP!!!!

[Nationalist]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

While YOU ^SPECLATION is COMPLETE BULLSHIT, we KNOW that you continually DEFEND ALL of Trump's CRIMES.

You're even NOW suggesting Trump SHOULD violate the POSSE COMMITATUS ACT. 🤮

Thanks for admitting that RIGHT HERE.

 

Its not speculation anymore. Look around you. Read your own posts. You defend criminals...you defend the admission of millions of illegals...you silly bstards deified a hardened criminal and drug addict...you defend terrorists in your own country. 

What choice have you left us? Most US cities are a mess with crime because you Libbies decided consequences for crimes are unnecessary. 

So ok...you wanna try to rot the nation from the inside...normal folks will take drastic action to stop you.

That's just common sense. 

Something you Libbies have forgone...

For hate's sake.