ExFlyer Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 18 minutes ago, CdnFox said: How does you being a teen make me a pedophile LOLOLOL i Know you're DESPERATE to have any man show an interest in you now that your dad left but that's pretty weird big guy Pedophile: A pedophile (or paedophile) is defined as an adult who experiences a persistent attraction to children, (roughly aged 18 or younger). Ewww, you are so gross you pedophile LOSER LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 If anyone was wondering if Carney would try to distance himself from CCP/Liberal MP spokesman Michael Ma and his shameful defense of the use of forced labor in China, the answer is..no. Carney will be attending a fundraiser hosted by Michael Ma.😐 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 41 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Pedophile: A pedophile (or paedophile) is defined as an adult who experiences a persistent attraction to children, (roughly aged 18 or younger). Ewww, you are so gross you pedophile LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL no, you're making definitions up to suit your weird sex fantasies. A pedophile is someone who experiences sexual attraction to prepubescent kids (usually under 12). I have never in my entire life expressed any sexual attraction towards you and I have never claimed you are under the age of 12, although frequently your intelligence level appears to be These are just your weird sexual fantasies coming back to haunt you kid Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Like most liberals you have to make the argument dishonest in order to make it work Nobody at all has said we shouldn't deal with china. Nobody. No conservatives or anyone else have suggested we should stop doing business with china But that also doesn't mean we should throw our doors open to china I give them free access. China is not our friend, china is very much an adversary and we have to be extremely cautious with our dealings with them In the past that's in the case, now all of a sudden we're allowing them to import Vehicles which wreck our auto industry fueled by slave labor and human mistreatment. While at the same time getting nothing in return that makes our own economy better than it was. If you don't see that's a problem you're not being an honest person We're not 'throwing the doors open' to China, but are back to where we were 2 years ago. China is nobodies friend but are one of those 'casual buddies' you need to do business with. The auto agreement will provide affordable EV options for consumers, and definitely disagree we aren't getting anything....what about agriculture/canola and seafood agreements? Better question would be how do you replace it if we say 'no thanks' to auto's.... answer is you don't. I don't agree with forced labor but I also don't agree with taking military action against countries for their oil, threatening allies with annexation, or insider trading at the most senior levels of government.... but such is life. Like Carney said... accept the world for what it is, not what we want it to be. Calculated trade relationships are a fact in today's world, like it or not. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: We're not 'throwing the doors open' to China, We certainly are moving in that direction, and that's the problem. But we start opening our market without getting anything in return then that is basically throwing our doors open Quote but are back to where we were 2 years ago. China is nobodies friend but are one of those 'casual buddies' you need to do business with. We didn't allow Chinese EVS 2 years ago. Find me a single one that was sold in Canada Quote The auto agreement will provide affordable EV options for consumers, and definitely disagree we aren't getting anything....what about agriculture/canola and seafood agreements? What about them? We never actually got an agreement there. They've lowered the tariff but there's absolutely nothing to stop them from raising that tariff the next day, and we still have massive tariffs on most of our products. We got some relief but even then we didn't go back to where we were. So they stabbed us in the gut with a knife and we're supposed to think that we're better off if they pull it out? That's not us getting something. Especially with no commitment not to raise it again in the future Quote Better question would be how do you replace it if we say 'no thanks' to auto's.... answer is you don't. Sure we do. We sell to other people, and we start growing different crops, just as we did before we sold to them. And the fact of the matter is they do need certain amounts of that product and we're buying from us even with the tariffs. But I'd be more interested in saying that if you're going to tariff our food products that you absolutely can't live without. but are back to where we were 2 years ago. China is nobodies friend but are one of those 'casual buddies' you need to do business with. The auto agreement will provide affordable EV options for consumers, and definitely disagree we aren't getting anything....what about agriculture/canola and seafood agreements? Better question would be how do you replace it if we say 'no thanks' to auto's.... answer is you don't. Quote I don't agree with forced labor But you're going to support it. You see the problem with that right? Quote but I also don't agree with taking military action against countries for their oil, threatening allies with annexation, or insider trading at the most senior levels of government. I don't recall us doing any of that. Quote ... but such is life. Like Carney said... accept the world for what it is, not what we want it to be. Calculated trade relationships are a fact in today's world, like it or not. No. If the world is not the way you want it to be then you make changes to the world. If we accepted Carney's point of view we'd still be sitting around fires hoping they didn't go out because we had no way of restarting them Carney says if life hands you lemons you eat lemons. Intelligent people say you make lemonade We got absolutely nothing in exchange for opening our markets to eat these that are made through sports slave labor. That is a simple fact. That is not a win and that's why people are unhappy. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Reg Volk Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 2 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
ExFlyer Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 44 minutes ago, CdnFox said: LOL no, you're making definitions ... These are just your weird sexual fantasies coming back to haunt you kid Nope, the "weird sexual fantasies" are always from you and consultant from you. As I said in another thread you are a 100% qualified pedophile LOSER Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Just now, ExFlyer said: Nope, the "weird sexual fantasies" are always from you and consultant from you. So you're my consultant now? But you're right, the weird sex stuff is definitely in front of me LOLOL (waives!) Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ... But you're right, the weird sex stuff is definitely in front of me LOLOL (waives!) Yup, in front of you alright...as you , the pedophile LOSER, seems to want it. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yup, in front of you alright... Exactly. Not me but in front of me. And you are the one in front of me You really don't think these things through before you talk to you? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But we start opening our market without getting anything in return then that is basically throwing our doors open Getting tariffs removed from canola and seafood is in return....and huge to Prairie farmers and EC fisherman. 34 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We didn't allow Chinese EVS 2 years ago. Find me a single one that was sold in Canada Look around... Tesla's, Volvo (before tariffs), Polestar. 35 minutes ago, CdnFox said: We never actually got an agreement there. Guess Carney and Xi got it wrong... Agri-food and trade are foundations of the longstanding relationship between Canada and China – and China continues to be our second-largest export market. To renew and strengthen that relationship, Prime Minister Carney and President Xi secured a preliminary agreement-in-principle with landmark measures to remove trade barriers and reduce tariffs: By March 1, 2026, Canada expects that China will lower tariffs on Canadian canola seed to a combined rate of approximately 15%. China is a $4 billion canola seed market for Canadian producers, and this change represents a significant drop from current combined tariff levels of approximately 85%. Canada expects that Canadian canola meal, lobsters, crabs, and peas will not be subject to relevant anti-discrimination tariffs from March 1, 2026, until at least the end of this year. 38 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Sure we do. We sell to other people, and we start growing different crops, just as we did before we sold to them. And the fact of the matter is they do need certain amounts of that product and we're buying from us even with the tariffs. But I'd be more interested in saying that if you're going to tariff our food products that you absolutely can't live without. You're wrong again... 'Canadian canola farmers struggled to replace lost sales to China following 2025 retaliatory tariffs, which triggered a roughly $1 billion value drop and significant stockpiling. While some market diversification occurred, the sector faced severe price pressure and reduced income until a January 2026 deal began lowering those tariffs.' 44 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But you're going to support it. You see the problem with that right? Yes, I see moral conflict, but I also see the economic conflict that is reality for those dependant on trade with China. Morals don't pay the bills for anyone. 47 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I don't recall us doing any of that. No, but our southern neighbours do. Let's turn a blind eye to that. 49 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No. If the world is not the way you want it to be then you make changes to the world. If we accepted Carney's point of view we'd still be sitting around fires hoping they didn't go out because we had no way of restarting them Carney says if life hands you lemons you eat lemons. Intelligent people say you make lemonade We got absolutely nothing in exchange for opening our markets to eat these that are made through sports slave labor. That is a simple fact. That is not a win and that's why people are unhappy. You keep saying we got nothing yet the agriculture and seafood industry who benefit from the agreement are very happy. Appears to be a lack of reading at your end... I'll go with their comments, and chalk yours up to the typical anti-liberal schtick... “With most of the 2025 canola crop stored on farm, and planting of the 2026 crop only months away, canola farmers are looking for predictability and confidence in the ability to market their canola,” says Rick White, President & CEO at CCGA. “We are pleased to see this significant progress and will be looking for resumption of canola movement in the future.” “Those tariffs represented a major barrier to move large amounts of live lobster into China, and it also served as a barrier to getting crab species in there,” said Kris Vascotto, executive director of the Nova Scotia Seafood Alliance. “All those things make up about $100 million coming out of this province annually to go to China, so trying to make sure we have free and open access to those products is also a priority, but thank goodness we managed to take care of lobster and crab on the front end,” Vascotto explained. Vascotto says the deal has created a “much more positive outlook” for 2026 for the seafood industry in Nova Scotia. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Getting tariffs removed from canola and seafood is in return....and huge to Prairie farmers and EC fisherman. Nope. Absolutely false. If somebody walks up to you and Punches you in the face and takes your lunch money, and then says if you do my homework for me I won't punch you in the face again, That's not an equivalent exchange. That's you giving into a bully and getting nothing in return other than not being bullied Pretty simple. We gave access to an industry in market that they did not have before and all we got in exchange is that they reduced a small amount of our tariffs that they put on in order to pressure us into doing this. We didn't get anything. We didn't even get a promise that they wouldn't increase the tariffs again which would have at least been something. So if they want something tomorrow they can increase those tariffs again and demand that 7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Guess Carney and Xi got it wrong... Carney got it wrong. Xi Did quite well. Read your own quotes, there's no agreement. Canada expects that they're going to do certain things, there's nothing to say that they're going to or that they can't undo that the next day We got nothing. And we sold out an auto industry in exchange for nothing. Once those cars start landing here there's no going back in practical terms, but they can re put those tariffs on in 2 seconds anytime they want Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Nope. Absolutely false. If somebody walks up to you and Punches you in the face and takes your lunch money, and then says if you do my homework for me I won't punch you in the face again, That's not an equivalent exchange. That's you giving into a bully and getting nothing in return other than not being bullied Pretty simple. We gave access to an industry in market that they did not have before and all we got in exchange is that they reduced a small amount of our tariffs that they put on in order to pressure us into doing this. We didn't get anything. We didn't even get a promise that they wouldn't increase the tariffs again which would have at least been something. So if they want something tomorrow they can increase those tariffs again and demand that Carney got it wrong. Xi Did quite well. Read your own quotes, there's no agreement. Canada expects that they're going to do certain things, there's nothing to say that they're going to or that they can't undo that the next day We got nothing. And we sold out an auto industry in exchange for nothing. Once those cars start landing here there's no going back in practical terms, but they can re put those tariffs on in 2 seconds anytime they want If you choose not to read and/or understand what is in front of you, you're certainly not worth the back and forth.... Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Just when you think the Liberals couldn't suck any harder, they go ahead and suck even harder. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Legato Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 20 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Getting tariffs removed from canola and seafood is in return....and huge to Prairie farmers and EC fisherman. Look around... Tesla's, Volvo (before tariffs), Polestar. Guess Carney and Xi got it wrong... Agri-food and trade are foundations of the longstanding relationship between Canada and China – and China continues to be our second-largest export market. To renew and strengthen that relationship, Prime Minister Carney and President Xi secured a preliminary agreement-in-principle with landmark measures to remove trade barriers and reduce tariffs: By March 1, 2026, Canada expects that China will lower tariffs on Canadian canola seed to a combined rate of approximately 15%. China is a $4 billion canola seed market for Canadian producers, and this change represents a significant drop from current combined tariff levels of approximately 85%. Canada expects that Canadian canola meal, lobsters, crabs, and peas will not be subject to relevant anti-discrimination tariffs from March 1, 2026, until at least the end of this year. You're wrong again... 'Canadian canola farmers struggled to replace lost sales to China following 2025 retaliatory tariffs, which triggered a roughly $1 billion value drop and significant stockpiling. While some market diversification occurred, the sector faced severe price pressure and reduced income until a January 2026 deal began lowering those tariffs.' Yes, I see moral conflict, but I also see the economic conflict that is reality for those dependant on trade with China. Morals don't pay the bills for anyone. No, but our southern neighbours do. Let's turn a blind eye to that. You keep saying we got nothing yet the agriculture and seafood industry who benefit from the agreement are very happy. Appears to be a lack of reading at your end... I'll go with their comments, and chalk yours up to the typical anti-liberal schtick... “With most of the 2025 canola crop stored on farm, and planting of the 2026 crop only months away, canola farmers are looking for predictability and confidence in the ability to market their canola,” says Rick White, President & CEO at CCGA. “We are pleased to see this significant progress and will be looking for resumption of canola movement in the future.” “Those tariffs represented a major barrier to move large amounts of live lobster into China, and it also served as a barrier to getting crab species in there,” said Kris Vascotto, executive director of the Nova Scotia Seafood Alliance. “All those things make up about $100 million coming out of this province annually to go to China, so trying to make sure we have free and open access to those products is also a priority, but thank goodness we managed to take care of lobster and crab on the front end,” Vascotto explained. Vascotto says the deal has created a “much more positive outlook” for 2026 for the seafood industry in Nova Scotia. Prior to the major trade escalation in late 2024 and 2025, Canadian canola typically faced a standard Most-Favoured-Nation (MFN) tariff of 9% for seeds. While there were no broad retaliatory "punishing" tariffs during this period, the trade relationship was defined by non-tariff barriers and a major diplomatic suspension in 2019. Recent Relief: Following a January 2026 agreement, seed duties were reduced to a combined rate of 15% (a 5.9% anti-dumping duty plus the 9% MFN duty) effective March 1, 2026. Well that was a major win. Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 44 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Exactly. Not me but in front of me. And you are the one in front of me You really don't think these things through before you talk to you? So sad you try to disprove your paedophiliac LOSER ways and still remain a LOSER LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Why the Americans didn't like Canada trying to sneak Chinese solar panels into the US: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/global-trends/what-is-chinese-kill-switch-found-in-equipment-at-us-solar-firms-trigger-national-security-fears-/articleshow/121440168.cms This is who we're getting into bed with. We're also going against everything the US is trying to do. We will never replace our US trade with Chinese trade and we're stupid to even try it. They. Will. Fuque. Us. Over. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 14 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: So sad you try to disprove your paedophiliac LOSER ways and still remain a LOSER LOL LOL LOL LOL Sure kid Sounds like you're having a bad day. Mommie tell you you're too old to breast feed again? Try paying her, that works for everyone else... Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Is it pointless to try and have a discussion with a leftist? These are typical responses over a mere two hour period. "Ewww, you are so gross you pedophile LOSER LOL LOL LOL" "As I said in another thread you are a 100% qualified pedophile LOSER " "Yup, in front of you alright...as you , the pedophile LOSER, seems to want it. " "So sad you try to disprove your paedophiliac LOSER ways and still remain a LOSER LOL LOL LOL These are schoolyard insults. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: If you choose not to read and/or understand what is in front of you, you're certainly not worth the back and forth.... In other words you know I'm right and you can't refute it. Yeah it's about what I thought Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Reg Volk Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Legato said: Prior to the major trade escalation in late 2024 and 2025, Canadian canola typically faced a standard Most-Favoured-Nation (MFN) tariff of 9% for seeds. While there were no broad retaliatory "punishing" tariffs during this period, the trade relationship was defined by non-tariff barriers and a major diplomatic suspension in 2019. Recent Relief: Following a January 2026 agreement, seed duties were reduced to a combined rate of 15% (a 5.9% anti-dumping duty plus the 9% MFN duty) effective March 1, 2026. Well that was a major win. According to people who actually know something about the industry, yes it was... Canola growers thrilled with China agreement SASKATOON — Canada’s canola growers are thrilled that China is rolling back import tariffs on canola seed and meal. “This is a huge deal,” said Andre Harpe, chair of the Canadian Canola Growers Association. “China was our second biggest market. In 2024, they took a third of our canola (exports), and that market essentially disappeared overnight.” Canola industry welcomes significant progress on Chinese tariffs CCC & CCGA release January 16, 2026 – The Canola Council of Canada (CCC) and Canadian Canola Growers Association (CCGA) welcome the announcement made today in Beijing to provide significant tariff relief for Canadian canola seed and meal. Under the agreement reached between Canada and China, tariffs on Canadian canola seed imports are expected to be reduced to 15% as of March 1, 2026, and the current 100% tariffs on canola meal are expected to be removed as of March 1, 2026, until at least the end of the calendar year. “The agreement reached on canola seed and meal is an important milestone in Canada’s trading relationship with China,” says Chris Davison, CCC President & CEO. “The Canadian canola industry has been clear since the outset that these tariffs are a political issue requiring a political solution. We are pleased to see significant progress in restoring market access for seed and meal and will continue to build on this development by working to achieve permanent and complete tariff relief, including for canola oil, moving forward.” “With most of the 2025 canola crop stored on farm, and planting of the 2026 crop only months away, canola farmers are looking for predictability and confidence in the ability to market their canola,” says Rick White, President & CEO at CCGA. “We are pleased to see this significant progress and will be looking for resumption of canola movement in the future.” Canadian exports of canola and canola products to China were valued at approximately $5 billion in 2024. For 2025, export value to China is expected to plummet to less than half that amount. China is Canada’s largest market for canola seed and second largest market for canola meal. “With the impacts of this trade disruption being felt across the entire Canadian canola value chain, we welcome meaningful progress to restore smoother, more predictable trade,” say Davison and White. “We greatly appreciate the efforts of Prime Minister Carney and the Government of Canada, including Agriculture and Agri-Food Minister Heath MacDonald, to re-establish bilateral trade with our second largest export market.” Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: In other words you know I'm right and you can't refute it. Yeah it's about what I thought I've shown you everything you need to know, or that you can easily find yourself. So no, you're not right and I'm not playing your brain dead little games... just as I thought... Quote
CdnFox Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I've shown you everything you need to know, or that you can easily find yourself. So no, you're not right and I'm not playing your brain dead little games... just as I thought... What you've shown me is that we didn't have an agreement. As I pointed out your own links and quotes make that crystal clear. Am I wrong? Can you point to documentation that says that the Chinese have agreed in writing not to raise tariffs on canola again? No? Can you point to an agreement that shows exactly what the tariff rate will be? No. So I'm right and you're wrong and now you're mad and you're pretending that somehow I'm not understanding something when in fact we both understand that you were completely incorrect Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted March 30 Report Posted March 30 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: Can you point to documentation that says that the Chinese have agreed in writing not to raise tariffs on canola again? There is no such agreement tariffs won't be applied again, just like there is no agreement we won't put tariffs on EV's again. Is this supposed to be some sort of position saying it's not good for those benefitting.... Quote
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