The DNI declassified information showing Russia gate was a hoax, Obama knew it was a hoax but peddled it anyways

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Guys...I think you broke robo-dweeb again.

Thanks for proving you're always ^BROKE again.

[BeaverFever]

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG, you finally notice conflating and misrepresenting lol. That's all the Russian collusion investigation was ffs, but with a side of:

• actual felonies (including a conviction for falsifying evidence and providing it to a judge)
• material lies that were broadcast
• coercion & witness tampering
• entrapment schemes
• misuse of gov't funds
• 17 'significant errors and omissions' by political activists within the FBI, which were submitted to judges and litigated in the court of public opinion, all to promote their false investigation
• their own collusion with Russian agents
• media leaks
• unmasking of innocent US gov't agents
• the Dems colluding with the FBI to undermine the president

Also, you just blew by the recent finding that Obama's administration falsified an intelligence report to get the witch hunt started. (par for the course for the Dems and their MSM and FBI lackeys)

 

No one is guiltier than you of conflating and misrepresenting, dummy. Talk about 'the memory of a goldfish' lol. 

You came here dozens of times to say that "Trump associates were indicted on dozens of charges, some of them collusion-related, and several of them were convicted", to make it seem as though people were actually convicted of crimes related to collusion, and no one was convicted or punished, unless you count the FBI's own criminals. That is the epitome of conflating and misrepresenting, and it was the pinnacle of your whole argument, you cultist liar. 

Also, the Russians "paid for FB ads targeting both sides, to sow discord", and you conflate that with "supporting only Trump". They didn't support just Trump, they played you and your fellow left4rd rubes like fiddles. Your confirmation bias jumped on that Russian propaganda like a fat kid on a Twinkie and nothing can make you shake it.

In your head, the FBI were puritanical and found incontrovertible evidence that Trump struck a deal with Putin, but the exact opposite is true. The FBI lied and committed a laundry list of crimes, they found ZERO evidence, the Dems lied, the MSM lied, and the cultist parrots like you lied. That's Russian collusion in a nutshell.

 

I'll give you credit for one thing: for a credulous dolt who's constantly caught lying and spreading disinformation, you sure are good at hurling insults. You probably just write down all the thing that your mommy yells down the stairs and just use it all here. 

Thanks for comin' by, Beave. It's always fun putting you in your place. 

LMAO you’re such a hilarious gullible loser and your mindlessly repeated nonsense. You forgot your “gentle giant” bit this time.

I am not rehashing this argument with you yet again,  you’re so full of lies and BS and spin your conspiracy-addled dropout brain can’t process a rational argument anyway. Here’s the Coles notes version: Putin hacked the Dems, met with Trump’s team in Trump tower to discuss what to trade for it and definitely did FB influencing for Trump’s benefit - not both sides equally. Trumps team was full of pro-Russian admirers and money launderers who lied to authorities about their Russian ties and went to jail for it   Trump then obstructed the investigation into all of the above 

THE END

 Trump’s got you distracted from Epstein that’s all that matters. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO you’re such a hilarious gullible loser and your mindlessly repeated nonsense. You forgot your “gentle giant” bit this time.

I am not rehashing this argument with you yet again,  you’re so full of lies and BS and spin your conspiracy-addled dropout brain can’t process a rational argument anyway. Here’s the Coles notes version: Putin hacked the Dems, met with Trump’s team in Trump tower to discuss what to trade for it and definitely did FB influencing for Trump’s benefit - not both sides equally. Trumps team was full of pro-Russian admirers and money launderers who lied to authorities about their Russian ties and went to jail for it   Trump then obstructed the investigation into all of the above 

THE END

 Trump’s got you distracted from Epstein that’s all that matters. 

You got rag-dolled Beave, because you're a low-IQ liar, and now you're running away. 

You know the FBI lied and committed crimes. You know that you got caught pretending that "criminal convictions" against Trump associates were collusion-related when they weren't. You know about the consistently biased errors and omissions, the unmasking, the leaks, the coercion of Trump associates, the entrapment, the lies, etc. 

I can't believe that you haven't changed your username or f'd off yet. Your whole history here is such a colossal embarrassment. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Guys...I think you broke robo-dweeb again.

Yeah.  Problem is it's like breaking a popsicle stick, it's so easy to do that it's hard to make it look cool.  

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO This whole thread is just another example of how you simple minded MAGA cultists can’t think critically and are so easily misled.  Once again we see why Trump said “I love the poorly educated” because high school dropouts like yourself are so easy to fool  

Let’s be clear:

These allegations conflate and misrepresent what the intelligence community actually concluded. They do nothing to disprove the  January 2017 findings that Russia launched an influence and hacking campaign to help Donald Trump and undermine Hillary. 
 

Gabbard is trying to use intelligence assessments on two different topics; the first was stating that no voting systems (“election infrastructure”) were breached, which she uses to falsely make a broader leap that a Russian influence and cyber campaign did not occur which is what the January 2017 assessment proved actually happened  

Any intelligent person can see even at a glance these are 2 different topics amd remember the January 2017 findings which were discussed at length. Once again the MAGAverse shows it has the memory of a goldfish and an IQ to match 

Last night a youtube video was shown on The Last Word of Obama clearly stating that Russia DID NOT HACK the voting machines. AKA NO vote manipulation.

FOOLS here don't understand this Gabbard gambit is just another distraction from the Epstein files which Trump DESPERATELY wants to COVER UP.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO This whole thread is just another example of how you simple minded MAGA cultists can’t think critically and are so easily misled.  Once again we see why Trump said “I love the poorly educated” because high school dropouts like yourself are so easy to fool  

You realize every time you do that you're basically admitting that you recognize that the core of what they said was correct and also that you really actually are in your mommy's basement crying  

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Let’s be clear:

These allegations conflate and misrepresent what the intelligence community actually concluded. They do nothing to disprove the  January 2017 findings that Russia launched an influence and hacking campaign to help Donald Trump and undermine Hillary. 

 

They absolutely do. And that's not exactly what the senate discovered
 

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Gabbard is trying to use intelligence assessments on two different topics; the first was stating that no voting systems (“election infrastructure”) were breached, which she uses to falsely make a broader leap that a Russian influence and cyber campaign did not occur which is what the January 2017 assessment proved actually happened  

That is not the conclusion and nobody has suggested even once that the Russians didn't make a small attempt to influence the election although everybody agrees that it had no impact

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Any intelligent person can see even at a glance these are 2 different topics amd remember the January 2017 findings which were discussed at length. Once again the MAGAverse shows it has the memory of a goldfish and an IQ to match 

And intelligent person can see that you're attempting to match two things together that really weren't

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Last night a youtube video was shown on The Last Word of Obama clearly stating that Russia DID NOT HACK the voting machines. AKA NO vote manipulation.

FOOLS here don't understand this Gabbard gambit is just another distraction from the Epstein files which Trump DESPERATELY wants to COVER UP.

Comin' to destroy your heros.

[robosmith]

42 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Comin' to destroy your heros.

LIES are not going to do that. Duh

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

LIES are not going to do that. Duh

But the truths are   Duh Duh DUuuuuuuuuuhhh

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You realize every time you do that you're basically admitting that you recognize that the core of what they said was correct

Uh, no. 
 

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They absolutely do.

Uh, no. 
 

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is not the conclusion and nobody has suggested even once that the Russians didn't make a small attempt to influence the election although everybody agrees that it had no impact

That is the conclusion and the attempt to influence was not small. It may or may not have had an impact   The hacked emails were certainly damaging to the Clinton campaign and potentially cost her Bernie supporters 

 

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And intelligent person can see that you're attempting to match two things together that really weren't

No the OP is trying to match them to prove some conspiracy. I am here saying they don’t match. Get it?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Uh, no. 

Except, yes. Sorry if you didn't realize it. I figured maybe that was the case and that's why I pointed it out

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Uh, no. 

Turns out repeating a lie doesn't make it true. I know you struggle with that concept but you have to trust me

 

 

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That is the conclusion and the attempt to influence was not small. It may or may not have had an impact   The hacked emails were certainly damaging to the Clinton campaign and potentially cost her Bernie supporters 

It was very small and had no impact. That was the expert testimony.Which wouldn't matter if trump actually colluded with them, they're very fact he did would be enough to warrant condemnation. But it is clear that he did not. At best they found that there was a possibility that that could happen, not that it actually happened

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No the OP is trying to match them to prove some conspiracy. I am here saying they don’t match. Get it?

I'm not sure you know what you're saying.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Except, yes. Sorry if you didn't realize it. I figured maybe that was the case and that's why I pointed it out

Turns out repeating a lie doesn't make it true. I know you struggle with that concept but you have to trust me

 

 

It was very small and had no impact. That was the expert testimony.Which wouldn't matter if trump actually colluded with them, they're very fact he did would be enough to warrant condemnation. But it is clear that he did not. At best they found that there was a possibility that that could happen, not that it actually happened

I'm not sure you know what you're saying.

What he's saying, in a very wordy way is,

ORANGEMANBAD!

And that's all.

[robosmith]

‘It’s just wildly misleading’: Why the administration’s latest allegations about the Russia investigation don’t add up

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Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassified and released new intelligence documents Friday that she claimed were evidence of a “treasonous conspiracy” by top Obama administration officials to manufacture the notion that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election.

But the allegations conflate and misrepresent what the intelligence community actually concluded, according to a review of a GOP-led Senate investigation from 2020 and interviews with congressional sources familiar with the probe.

The newly unsealed documents do nothing to undercut the government’s core findings in its 2017 assessment that Russia launched an influence and hacking campaign and sought to help Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton, the sources said.

The new allegations from Gabbard lean on assessments before the election and statements from Obama-era intelligence officials finding that the Russians did not alter the election results through cyber-attacks aimed at infiltrating voting systems.

But the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment never concluded that Russian cyberattacks altered the outcome of the 2016 election or compromised any election infrastructure in the first place, though state voting systems were probed.

Instead, the assessment focused on Russia’s influence campaign ordered by President Vladimir Putin and cyber operations against US and Democratic Party officials, including the hacked emails released by WikiLeaks.

“These are two different things — cyberattacks on infrastructure and hacking the DNC — which they’re conflating in an attempt to make a political point,” said a former senior congressional source familiar with the Senate review. “It’s just wildly misleading on its face.”

 

 

 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

‘It’s just wildly misleading’: Why the administration’s latest allegations about the Russia investigation don’t add up

 

 

 

 

 

You just like lying, don't you? 

The point of the release was that the assessments were altered to say that Russia preferred Trump when the actual intelligence had no such statement. It also talks about how they used those fake intelligence reports to spy on Trump's campaign, sent a spy to plant a story with an aid and released all this info for the useful idìots to repeat, regardless of evidence to the contrary.

[gatomontes99]

Democrats are getting a first hand lesson on what FAFO means:

Justice.gov

WASHINGTON – Today, the Department of Justice announced the formation of a Strike Force to assess the evidence publicized by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and investigate potential next legal steps which might stem from DNI Gabbard’s disclosures.

This Department takes alleged weaponization of the intelligence community with the utmost seriousness.

Upon the formation of the Strike Force, Attorney General Pamela Bondi stated:

“The Department of Justice is proud to work with my friend Director Gabbard and we are grateful for her partnership in delivering accountability for the American people. We will investigate these troubling disclosures fully and leave no stone unturned to deliver justice.”
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I want to celebrate, but there have been so many times the Republicans have pussied out. If they actually follow through, I'll be pleasantly surprised. I am hopefully that I will be surprised. 

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Democrats are getting a first hand lesson on what FAFO means:

Justice.gov

WASHINGTON – Today, the Department of Justice announced the formation of a Strike Force to assess the evidence publicized by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and investigate potential next legal steps which might stem from DNI Gabbard’s disclosures.

This Department takes alleged weaponization of the intelligence community with the utmost seriousness.

Upon the formation of the Strike Force, Attorney General Pamela Bondi stated:

“The Department of Justice is proud to work with my friend Director Gabbard and we are grateful for her partnership in delivering accountability for the American people. We will investigate these troubling disclosures fully and leave no stone unturned to deliver justice.”
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I want to celebrate, but there have been so many times the Republicans have pussied out. If they actually follow through, I'll be pleasantly surprised. I am hopefully that I will be surprised. 

I love that it's a strike force  So dramatic!

I suspect something will come out of it. The democrats taught trump the pain of punishment by process, you don't have to get a conviction to make somebody's life miserable and expensive. And as we have discussed considering what they put him through it's not surprising or even remotely unexpected that he wouldn't be looking for Payback

[gatomontes99]

Does anyone remember how the left just lost their minds when this report came out? 

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Politico

President Donald Trump said he doesn’t “see any reason why” Russia would interfere with the 2016 election, at an extraordinary press conference Monday with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The comment is the latest instance of Trump breaking with the U.S. intelligence community but was all the more explosive when said standing next to Putin, after a nearly two-hour one-on-one meeting and extended bilateral summit in Helsinki, Finland.

“My people came to me, [Director of National Intelligence] Dan Coats came to me and some others saying they think it’s Russia. I have President Putin, he just said it’s not Russia,” Trump said. “I will say this, I don’t see any reason why it would be.”

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He was right. The enemy, at that moment, wasn't Putin. It was our own intelligence services.

[gatomontes99]

So...Hillary was so insufferable that her doctor and staff kept her heavily sedated so she wouldn't show her crazy. And Russia new that!

FoxNews (Most Trusted Source by Robosmith) Russia sat on intel of Hillary Clinton's alleged ‘heavy tranquilizers’ use, new docs claim DNI Gabbard declassified a report prepared by the House Intelligence Committee containing the allegations

According to the left's allegations, Russia was trying to help Trump. If that's the case, why did they hold onto daming information like Hillary being very sick and heavily sedated? That would have swung several percentage points in his favor. Are they that inept or is the narrative wrong? 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

So...Hillary was so insufferable that her doctor and staff kept her heavily sedated so she wouldn't show her crazy. And Russia new that!

FoxNews (Most Trusted Source by Robosmith) Russia sat on intel of Hillary Clinton's alleged ‘heavy tranquilizers’ use, new docs claim DNI Gabbard declassified a report prepared by the House Intelligence Committee containing the allegations

According to the left's allegations, Russia was trying to help Trump. If that's the case, why did they hold onto daming information like Hillary being very sick and heavily sedated? That would have swung several percentage points in his favor. Are they that inept or is the narrative wrong? 

The evidence is absolutely overwhelming that trump was not colluding with the Russians and that the Russians didn't particularly want trump to win and that this was the opinion of the intelligence experts.

What the public saw was what Obama re wrote. And it was a lie.

Anybody with half a brain knew all of this already. There's not a lot that's new. But it is confirmation of what we have been saying all along