BREAKING: Leaked US intelligence says Iran's nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

As I have stated, I have no love for Israel or the Zionists. But were some religious freaks chanted death to Canada and were secretly enriching uranium way past power generation levels, I'd be ready to bomb the daylights out of them.

I don't like that the USA covertly gave nukrs to Israel. Nor do I like that Israel started this ruckus. But what Iran was doing needed to be stopped.

Iran would likely not be enriching U if Israel didn't have the bomb and not actually invaded them. Duh

1 hour ago, Legato said:

Yeah but no but yeah but no but here's a lamp you can rub.

Your ^fantasies mean nothing.

[Legato]

26 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Giving all kinds of special privileges to Jews makes them a THEOCRACY. Or hybrid if you pretend the 20% of Palestinians who live there have ANY rights.

 

The sun isn't over the yardarm yet.

[Legato]

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Iran would likely not be enriching U if Israel didn't have the bomb and not actually invaded them. Duh

Your ^fantasies mean nothing.

The sun isn't over the yardarm yet.

27 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Since when do you have ANY EVIDENCE they are not? Don't be shy, POST IT HERE.

 

The sun isn't over the yardarm yet.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Maybe that's what they want you to think. The truth is, we don't know. Any definitive stance without solid evidence is only conjecture.  

Apparently both Iran and Israel were running low on missiles and didn't have the resources to continue on like that. 

Israel was paying a cost for this war too.

If you shoot a deer with a 50 cal from 25 yards and it drops down dead, do you really need an autopsy to see what the bullet did? 

These bunker buster style bombs pack 30,000 lbs of ordinance. When they explode, they do a ton of damage. Barring 14 bombs that all failed to explode, significant damage was incurred. You don't have to walk around the site.

We knew where all the tunnels were and where all the materials were stored. We knew that because Iranians, that don't like their government, are feeding Israel all that information. 

We also know that centrifuges are highly sensitive to vibration. Fourteen large explosions are not survivable for equipment that is that sensitive. It would be like throwing a baseball against a plate glass window fourteen times and expecting it to survive. And not some weak ass liberal throw. Nolan Ryan in his prime throws. 

What Trump and Hegseth said is highly likely to be true. Yes, we can say there is some doubt as the effectiveness because we don't have eyes in the caves to add to the intelligence. But we will get reports from the Iranian spies that support Israel. We will know definitively, if we don't already. 

Edited Wednesday at 09:35 PM by gatomontes99

[User]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Sure. Again back to the 2003 scenario where you're being pulled into a quagmire that only leads to war. 

What war? We bombed them, its over already. 

 

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

If you shoot a deer with a 50 cal from 25 yards and it drops down dead, do you really need an autopsy to see what the bullet did? 

These bunker buster style bombs pack 30,000 lbs of ordinance. When they explode, they do a ton of damage. Barring 14 bombs that all failed to explode, significant damage was incurred. You don't have to walk around the site.

We knew where all the tunnels were and where all the materials were stored. We knew that because Iranians, that don't like their government, are feeding Israel all that information. 

We also know that centrifuges are highly sensitive to vibration. Fourteen large explosions are not survivable for equipment that is that sensitive. It would be like throwing a baseball against a plate glass window fourteen times and expecting it to survive. And not some weak ass liberal throw. Nolan Ryan in his prime throws. 

What Trump and Hegseth said is highly likely to be true. Yes, we can say there is some doubt as the effectiveness because we don't have eyes in the caves to add to the intelligence. But we will get reports from the Iranian spies that support Israel. We will know definitively, if we don't already. 

So where did you get your PhD in nuclear engineering? LMAO

Absent that, your OPINIONS mean NOTHING. 

And centrifuges are only "very sensitive" to vibration when running. Bet ya the Iranians TURNED THEM OFF when they walked out the door with the 900lbs of U. LMAO

However, they don't need all the centrifuges in Fordo to enrich enough of the 900lbs for 90+%

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Iran would likely not be enriching U if Israel didn't have the bomb and not actually invaded them. Duh

I know you don't have much, if any reputation, but dude...cmon...have some respect for yourself. Iran has stated for over 4 decades that they want to annihilate the little Satin and the big Satin. They have a saying. "First we kill the Saturday people. Then we kill the Sunday people." AKA, kill the jews, then the christians.

They would build a nuke regardless of Israel's nuclear status. They will use the nuke, regardless of consequence. You need to understand and accept that. That is the reality we are faced with. 

 

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So where did you get your PhD in nuclear engineering? LMAO

Absent that, your OPINIONS mean NOTHING. 

And centrifuges are only "very sensitive" to vibration when running. Bet ya the Iranians TURNED THEM OFF when they walked out the door with the 900lbs of U. LMAO

However, they don't need all the centrifuges in Fordo to enrich enough of the 900lbs for 90+%

Well, I'm just restating the information I posted earlier from the head of the IAEA. Don't worry, it is in video form so even you can understand it.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

This sounds a lot like the WMD debate in 2003. The only way you'll ensure Iran can't make a nuke is to start a real war, not a covert B2 strike. 

No it doesn't. Iran admitted they were enriching uranium way past 3%.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You're the lDIOT who would rather bomb Iran than comply with the negotiated settlement which WAS WORKING.

Now the U is in the wind and Iran will do what Israel and N Korea did: develop NUKES IN SECRET.

Thanks to Trump and lDIOTS like you who support him. 🤮

A settlement that was not working.

Dumb-Ass.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Giving all kinds of special privileges to Jews makes them a THEOCRACY. Or hybrid if you pretend the 20% of Palestinians who live there have ANY rights.

Right. They just BOMB THE F out of Iran in an UNPROVOKED ATTACK, you stupid sh1t.

Err...what percent was Iran enriching uranium to again?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Sure. Again back to the 2003 scenario where you're being pulled into a quagmire that only leads to war. 

In 2003 they said there was a nuclear program when there wasn't a nuclear program. They said that uranium had been obtained when there was no uranium

Are you claiming that the Iranians did not have uranium? Are you suggesting that they're actually was no enrichment facility?

Unless you're making those claims there's no comparison. I ran definitely had the capacity and was moving towards a state where they could produce a nuclear weapon. They were continuing to enrich uranium and increasing the amount despite the fact they don't even have a reactor.

So in the united states has said close enough, whether you are actually building a bomb or not you're at the point where you could and we're not okay with that.

There's nothing hidden or surprising here, this isn't anything remotely like 2003. Iran must not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and that means not having the capacity to make them. This is not the kind of thing you get to just trust people on, and nobody is disputing the fact that they had the facilities and that whether or not the program was intended for peaceful use they were moving towards a state where they would be able to produce a Bomb if they wanted to

[robosmith]

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

A settlement that was not working.

Dumb-Ass.

Prove it, lDIOT. I've already posted EVIDENCE it WAS WORKING.

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Err...what percent was Iran enriching uranium to again?

60%, apparently with "particles" reaching 87%.

Unlike Iran, Israel has BOMBS. Duh

If you believe having enriched U is provocation, then Israel should be BOMBED according to you.

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Prove it, lDIOT. I've already posted EVIDENCE it WAS WORKING.

60%, apparently with "particles" reaching 87%.

Unlike Iran, Israel has BOMBS. Duh

If you believe having enriched U is provocation, then Israel should be BOMBED according to you.

Everybody trust Israel not to use their bombs. Nobody trusts Iran. So absolutely, if they have enriched uranium it should be taken away. And it was. There you go

[gatomontes99]

Well, apparently there was heavy damage to concrete because there is tons of concrete dust in the area.

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Well, apparently there was heavy damage to concrete because there is tons of concrete dust in the area.

 

Nothing in your video about "tons of concrete dust."

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nothing in your video about "tons of concrete dust."

Lmao...lame.

[paxamericana]

8 hours ago, User said:

Those folks in Gaza being killed --- did you forget what started that?

You mean October 7 terrorist attack on Israel or did your robot memory get wiped?

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Prove it, lDIOT. I've already posted EVIDENCE it WAS WORKING.

60%, apparently with "particles" reaching 87%.

Unlike Iran, Israel has BOMBS. Duh

If you believe having enriched U is provocation, then Israel should be BOMBED according to you.

Gawd ur dumb. Even ur "evidence" is wrong. Why do you insist on being wrong so consistently?

Israel hasn't threatened to kill my kids...your...whatever...even you...yet you don't get that. Nor do you care. The sad fact is...your soul motivation is to simply oppose Trump. Like a reflex. A nervous tick.

Meh...

Edited yesterday at 01:30 AM by Nationalist

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Gawd ur dumb. Even ur "evidence" is wrong. Why do you insist on being wrong so consistently?

As ALWAYS YOUR ^OPINION doesn't make me (or anyone) WRONG.

YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE for your CLAIM.

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Israel hasn't threatened to kill my kids...your...whatever...even you...yet you don't get that. Nor do you care. The sad fact is...your soul motivation is to simply oppose Trump. Like a reflex. A nervous tick.

Meh...

Israel doesn't even know about you. Duh

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

As ALWAYS YOUR ^OPINION doesn't make me (or anyone) WRONG.

 

That's true. You were wrong before he got here

[User]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

You mean October 7 terrorist attack on Israel or did your robot memory get wiped?

Try to go back and follow the progression of this discussion. 

[West]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

Lot better than Trump's plan to remove the inspectors and all limits on nuclear enrichment. Duh

Obama didn't give them ANYTHING. Their assets were unfrozen in RETURN FOR LIMITS AND INSPECTORS.

How many times do you have to be informed before you understand? LMAO

As long as a Jewish Theocracy is threatening them with THEIR NUKES. Duh

Iran's hatred of israel is purely based on their religion. Only the uneducated think they aren't trying to do everything in their power to murder the jews and steal their land. 

I dont think theyll nuke Jerusalem because thats a supposed holy site to whacko Muslims but possibly other places I.e Saudi Arabia and Tel Aviv is in trouble if they get a nuke

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Iran's hatred of israel is purely based on their religion. Only the uneducated think they aren't trying to do everything in their power to murder the jews and steal their land. 

What is the source of ^this education YOU GOT?

The reality is, the Zionist movement and WWII caused a mass migration of Jews to Palestine (it was called that in my world history text books from 60 years ago), and in 1948 they unilaterally declared an Israeli state, terrorizing many of the Palestinians into fleeing their homes in order to create a Jewish majority. 

Most Iranian Jews fled to the new state due to poor, but not murderous, treatment as 2nd class citizens in Iran.

Most Arabs and Persians blamed Israel  for what they did to the Palestinians during that time, and tried to stop the unilateral declaration of statehood.

The problem for Israel was the way it was founded with mass theft of Palestinian land to create a Jewish majority state.

The UN gave Jews a state on land neither of them owned.

[paxamericana]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What is the source of ^this education YOU GOT?

The reality is, the Zionist movement and WWII caused a mass migration of Jews to Palestine (it was called that in my world history text books from 60 years ago), and in 1948 they unilaterally declared an Israeli state, terrorizing many of the Palestinians into fleeing their homes in order to create a Jewish majority. 

Most Iranian Jews fled to the new state due to poor, but not murderous, treatment as 2nd class citizens in Iran.

Most Arabs and Persians blamed Israel  for what they did to the Palestinians during that time, and tried to stop the unilateral declaration of statehood.

The problem for Israel was the way it was founded with mass theft of Palestinian land to create a Jewish majority state.

The UN gave Jews a state on land neither of them owned.

These are not historicaly accurate representation of events. 1948 was the first Arab V Israel war. That’s when the Palestinian fled. Because war. Also not commonly known, but the Arabs hate each other more than they hate Israel. The Palestinian only serves as a pawn to unite the Arab population against Israel and not their own failing and unpopular government of the time. Arab countries despise the Palestinian. 

Edited yesterday at 05:22 AM by paxamericana

[paxamericana]

3 hours ago, West said:

Iran's hatred of israel is purely based on their religion

This is the heart of the matter. The Iranian theocracy is a death cult. They don’t just hate Israel, they hate the west. They do not believe in the Judeo Christian principles of life. Which is a core religious belief, that man is made in the image of god. Life is not sanctify thus life is cheap. Furthermore, the justification for terrorism (use of violence to create fear and achieve political goals) only points to authoritarianism which is also why they hate the liberal democratic system of the west. In summary, the terrorist don’t just hate you, they hate your way of life because it creates an alternative reality to their 7th century fantasy.

The Palestinian ran terror group HAMAS clearly state they do not want a two party system. They want the destruction of Israel and its Jewish inhabitants.