Scientists may have figured out why a potent greenhouse gas is rising. The answer is scary.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Yes, but BILLIONS can and DO AFFECT the planet's climate and when that methane is released even you will understand what crisis means.

Your OPINION doesn't make me wrong.

It is NOT a scientist's job to determine "crisis." Duh

But plenty have determined crisis level impacts of climate change: like runaway warming from the tipping point of permafrost melting.

Yes you feigning expertise that you don't have, is a lack of IGNORANCE.

Lol...you're cute when you're stupid...y'know that?

[robosmith]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Lol...you're cute when you're stupid...y'know that?

You're not smart enough to understand "stupid."

IGNORAMUS doesn't know what he doesn't know, as ALWAYS.

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're not smart enough to understand "stupid."

IGNORAMUS doesn't know what he doesn't know, as ALWAYS.

Correction. I'm FEIGNING ignorance.

Giggle...

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Correction. I'm FEIGNING ignorance.

Giggle...

No you're feigning lack of ignorance. AKA expertise YOU DON'T HAVE because you're a DROPOUT.

[gatomontes99]

36 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No you're feigning lack of ignorance. AKA expertise YOU DON'T HAVE because you're a DROPOUT.

Some form of the ancestors of cattle have been on this planet for 2 million years and in greater numbers than domesticated cattle. Their farts didn't cause global warming. The change of the orbit of the earth, proximity to the sun for longer periods and shifting platelets that released magma on the ocean floors to release trapped methane (know as methane hydrates) are what cause the bulk of warming. Cow farts don't play a role. Ok. Don't be so fùcking stùpid. 

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Right now it is coming out in dribbles. The warmer it gets, the more it will turn into GUSHES.

You're welcome, IGNORAMUS.

Yes... what does "started" mean again?

If it is an inescapable doom loop, we have already begun. 

[Nationalist]

55 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No you're feigning lack of ignorance. AKA expertise YOU DON'T HAVE because you're a DROPOUT.

Lol...Laddie in exactly 9 days I'm retiring. I'm gettin' my sanity outta that rat-race and y'know...maybe I'll try to find you in California...and buy the house next to y'all.

[robosmith]

On 6/18/2025 at 2:51 PM, Nationalist said:

Lol...Laddie in exactly 9 days I'm retiring. I'm gettin' my sanity outta that rat-race and y'know...maybe I'll try to find you in California...and buy the house next to y'all.

You'll need minimum $1M for an average house here, and I don't believe you have it.

[robosmith]

Scientists may have figured out why a potent greenhouse gas is rising. 

Methane emissions spiked starting in 2020. Scientists say they have found the culprit.

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Almost two decades ago, the atmosphere’s levels of methane — a dangerous greenhouse gas that is over 80 times as potent as carbon dioxide in the short term — started to climb. And climb.

Methane concentrations, which had been stable for years, soared by 5 or 6 parts per billion every year from 2007 onward. Then, in 2020, the growth rate nearly doubled.

 

Scientists were baffled — and concerned. Methane is the big question mark hanging over the world’s climate estimates; although it breaks down in the atmosphere much faster than carbon dioxide, it is so powerful that higher-than-expected methane levels could shift the world toward much higher temperatures.

 

But now, a study sheds light on what’s driving record methane emissions. The culprits, scientists believe, are microbes — the tiny organisms that live in cows’ stomachs, agricultural fields and wetlands. And that could mean a dangerous feedback loop — in which these emissions cause warming that releases even more greenhouse gases — is already underway.

Not really buying "baffled" as the melting of permafrost has been a KNOWN possible positive feedback loop for MANY YEARS.

 

 

 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

Lmao...it's cows again! 

Never mind that Milankovitch Cycles perfectly explain the release of methane. Its cows! They never existed until now and now they are farting us to death! Oh the cow-manity! 

[paxamericana]

17 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Lmao...it's cows again! 

Never mind that Milankovitch Cycles perfectly explain the release of methane. Its cows! They never existed until now and now they are farting us to death! Oh the cow-manity! 

I'm actually in favor of said cow farts. It'll make it easier to conquer the Canadian north. Global warming might be bad news for tropical countries but for North America it's actually a good thing. 

Edited July 11, 2025 by paxamericana

[gatomontes99]

11 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

I'm actually in favor of said cow farts. It'll make it easier to conquer the Canadian north. Global warming might be bad news for tropical countries but for North America it's actually a good thing. 

I literally just ordered a steak for dinner...mmmm

You know, by eating the steak I helped kill a cow.by skipping the veggies I left more plants on the planet to scrub CO2. I'm a global warming warrior.

[robosmith]

34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Lmao...it's cows again! 

Never mind that Milankovitch Cycles perfectly explain the release of methane. Its cows! They never existed until now and now they are farting us to death! Oh the cow-manity! 

You're just embarrassing YOURSELF.

IF you read the article you'd know that it says cows are not increasing the methane releases; it is MICROBES.

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The culprits, scientists believe, are microbes — the tiny organisms that live in cows’ stomachs, agricultural fields and wetlands. And that could mean a dangerous feedback loop — in which these emissions cause warming that releases even more greenhouse gases — is already underway.

And it was ALWAYS COWS BELCHING, NOT FARTING, dumbass.

Of course the article MISSED a MAJOR source of MICROBES releasing METHANE from THAWING PERMAFROST.

That is the major source of MICROBES INCREASING METHANE releases, as mentioned in the OP.

[gatomontes99]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're just embarrassing YOURSELF.

IF you read the article you'd know that it says cows are not increasing the methane releases; it is MICROBES.

And it was ALWAYS COWS BELCHING, NOT FARTING, dumbass.

Of course the article MISSED a MAJOR source of MICROBES releasing METHANE from THAWING PERMAFROST.

That is the major source of MICROBES INCREASING METHANE releases, as mentioned in the OP.

Oh yeah. I'm embarrassing my self. Its totally cows belching, not farting.  I am such a fool.

You have no idea how you sound, do you? 

And it has nothing to do with some microbes in permafrost. Methane is easily trapped by rain, snow, hail, etc. it either falls into the ocean or gets trapped in permafrost. It is then release by a heat source like the sun or magma. The sun becomes more intense during more circular orbits and magma gets release more as the orbits change. Those two cycles collide as we transition from an elliptical orbit to a more circular orbit. During those times, the earth warms because we are closer to the sun for longer periods and because more methane is released into the atmosphere. When that happens, life thrives and life releases more carbon dioxide which acts as a natural suppressant for the excess heat. 

That's the true science of it. Milankovitch Cycles do a nice job of explaining the entire process. The theory did, however, have 10,000 and 100,000 year problems that were explained by cycles in the sun's energy and I forget the second reason. 

Just so you understand, the planet warmed long before cows farted or belched and it cooled even when massive creatures like dinosaurs were stinking up the place with their bad breath and dino patties the size of a school bus. 

You believe in a fantasy. Read some science books that talk about the actual mechanisms that control weather, climate and the like. It is far more complicated than I can post in a forum and far less fiction than anything you post here.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh yeah. I'm embarrassing my self. Its totally cows belching, not farting.  I am such a fool.

You have no idea how you sound, do you? 

And it has nothing to do with some microbes in permafrost. Methane is easily trapped by rain, snow, hail, etc. it either falls into the ocean or gets trapped in permafrost. It is then release by a heat source like the sun or magma. The sun becomes more intense during more circular orbits and magma gets release more as the orbits change. Those two cycles collide as we transition from an elliptical orbit to a more circular orbit. During those times, the earth warms because we are closer to the sun for longer periods and because more methane is released into the atmosphere. When that happens, life thrives and life releases more carbon dioxide which acts as a natural suppressant for the excess heat. 

That's the true science of it. Milankovitch Cycles do a nice job of explaining the entire process. The theory did, however, have 10,000 and 100,000 year problems that were explained by cycles in the sun's energy and I forget the second reason. 

Just so you understand, the planet warmed long before cows farted or belched and it cooled even when massive creatures like dinosaurs were stinking up the place with their bad breath and dino patties the size of a school bus. 

You believe in a fantasy. Read some science books that talk about the actual mechanisms that control weather, climate and the like. It is far more complicated than I can post in a forum and far less fiction than anything you post here.

It is YOUR FANTASY.

Climate scientists know all about the Earth's orbit, and they SAY YOU'RE WRONG, mainly because of the TIME SCALES.

That's why you have NO PEER REVIEWED EVIDENCE to post. LMAO

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No, Milankovitch cycles do not explain current global warming. While these cycles influence long-term climate patterns, including the timing of ice ages, they operate on time scales of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years. The current rapid warming trend is occurring over decades to centuries, which is far too rapid to be attributed to Milankovitch cycles. NASA Science says that the current warming is primarily caused by human activities. 

 

Here's why:

• Time Scales:

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  Milankovitch cycles involve changes in Earth's orbit and tilt, which affect the amount of solar radiation received over very long periods. These changes are gradual and do not account for the rapid warming observed in recent decades. 

   
• Current Warming:

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  The observed increase in global temperatures, particularly over the last century, is significantly faster than what Milankovitch cycles can produce. 

   
• Greenhouse Gases:

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  The scientific consensus is that the current warming trend is largely due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations (like carbon dioxide) in the atmosphere, primarily from human activities such as burning fossil fuels. 

   

In essence, while Milankovitch cycles are crucial for understanding long-term climate variability, they are not the cause of the current, rapid warming trend. The current warming is primarily attributed to human-caused greenhouse gas emissions. 

 

[CdnFox]

Cows will be the death of us all!!!

This is why i eat as many of them as i can! 

Don't kid yourself....

https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxkQmUjqcEWxx0KNtqnfoIv0VF97okrFdd

 

Edited July 12, 2025 by CdnFox

[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

It is YOUR FANTASY.

Climate scientists know all about the Earth's orbit, and they SAY YOU'RE WRONG, mainly because of the TIME SCALES.

That's why you have NO PEER REVIEWED EVIDENCE to post. LMAO

 

Your article isn't peer reviewed. Does that make it bullshit? Of course, not in your mind. 

Your article claimed global cooling started 6,000 years ago. The reality is we started warming approximately 18,000 years ago. 

Notice that the line breaks. That's when actual measurements replace estimates. Estimates are based on core samples and core samples come with certain uncertai ties and assumptions. So, while scientists are fairly confident in their calculations, they cannot be certain that they are accurate. 

In fact, when you see a chart like the one above, you can tell that the data was normalized. Raw data has variability that is "choppy". That data line is smooth. That data line is not raw data.

Now, he is a non-normalized data line. 

Look closely at present day. We are at a point just after the coolest time and just before the warmest time. There is little to no douhlvt that if humans were not here, the planet would be warming at an exponential pace. 

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https://eng.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Environmental_Engineering_(Sustainability_and_Conservation)/Book%3A_Sustainability_-_A_Comprehensive_Foundation_(Cabezas)/03%3A_Climate_and_Global_Change/3.03%3A_Milankovitch_Cycles_and_the_Climate_of_the_Quaternary

Today, the Earth's orbit is not very eccentric (it is almost circular), but at the beginning of each of the recent ice age periods, the orbit was much more elliptical. This meant that the Earth was further away from the sun during the northern hemisphere summers, reducing the total insolation. Lower insolation meant that the summer months were milder than they would otherwise be, with cooler temperatures. Summer temperatures were also lower when the Earth's axial tilt was smaller, so the two different orbital parameters could reinforce one another's effects, in this case producing especially mild summers.

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That's literally the text book. 

[User]

16 hours ago, robosmith said:

Not really buying "baffled" as the melting of permafrost has been a KNOWN possible positive feedback loop for MANY YEARS.

Its too late then. The doom loop has already begun. 

 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Your article isn't peer reviewed. Does that make it bullshit? Of course, not in your mind. 

Your article claimed global cooling started 6,000 years ago. The reality is we started warming approximately 18,000 years ago. 

Notice that the line breaks. That's when actual measurements replace estimates. Estimates are based on core samples and core samples come with certain uncertai ties and assumptions. So, while scientists are fairly confident in their calculations, they cannot be certain that they are accurate. 

In fact, when you see a chart like the one above, you can tell that the data was normalized. Raw data has variability that is "choppy". That data line is smooth. That data line is not raw data.

Now, he is a non-normalized data line. 

Look closely at present day. We are at a point just after the coolest time and just before the warmest time. There is little to no douhlvt that if humans were not here, the planet would be warming at an exponential pace. 

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https://eng.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Environmental_Engineering_(Sustainability_and_Conservation)/Book%3A_Sustainability_-_A_Comprehensive_Foundation_(Cabezas)/03%3A_Climate_and_Global_Change/3.03%3A_Milankovitch_Cycles_and_the_Climate_of_the_Quaternary

Today, the Earth's orbit is not very eccentric (it is almost circular), but at the beginning of each of the recent ice age periods, the orbit was much more elliptical. This meant that the Earth was further away from the sun during the northern hemisphere summers, reducing the total insolation. Lower insolation meant that the summer months were milder than they would otherwise be, with cooler temperatures. Summer temperatures were also lower when the Earth's axial tilt was smaller, so the two different orbital parameters could reinforce one another's effects, in this case producing especially mild summers.

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That's literally the text book. 

The article I posted is from the NASA Science TEAM. AKA peer reviewed. 

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Finally, Earth is currently in an interglacial period (a period of milder climate between Ice Ages). If there were no human influences on climate, scientists say Earth’s current orbital positions within the Milankovitch cycles predict our planet should be cooling, not warming, continuing a long-term cooling trend that began 6,000 years ago.

Read it again: "should be cooling, NOT warming"

Edited July 12, 2025 by robosmith

[User]

27 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The article I posted is from the NASA Science TEAM. AKA peer reviewed. 

That is not the definition of peer-reviewed. 

 

[gatomontes99]

41 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The article I posted is from the NASA Science TEAM. AKA peer reviewed. 

NASA =/= PEER reviewed

42 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Read it again: "should be cooling, NOT warming"

That's the NASA website and that shows it is not peer-reviewed. That is an article about what scientists say. Kind of like when a reporter asks a question with "people are saying". That's just cover for the reporter inserting his/her own opinion. Same here. 

[WestCanMan]

On 6/18/2025 at 11:55 AM, User said:

Starts?

What is this thread about... it has already started!

We are DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

FIFY

[robosmith]

57 minutes ago, User said:

That is not the definition of peer-reviewed. 

 

Sorry your "definition" is NOT OFFICIAL. LMAO

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, User said:

Its too late then. The doom loop has already begun. 

 

Says who? You? LMAO

Ever THINK? That a loop can be interrupted by appropriate ACTION. 

[WestCanMan]

@herbie This is a true story:

Once I ate burritos and Stagg Chili every day, thereby creating enough methane to warm up the climate in my neighbourhood until the winters got warmer here, and I tripled the value of my house. 

To be fair, I'm not sure if the left4rds who bought it were paying for the climate or the aroma, but they got their money's worth either way. It smelled like left4rd utopia here.