August1991 Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 If you have tattoos, it is your choice. If you have dark skin, it is by birth. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted June 4 Report Posted June 4 8 hours ago, August1991 said: If you have tattoos, it is your choice. If you have dark skin, it is by birth. Indeed, this is the logic of the xenophobe. I don't like how you look, dress, speak: it's an affront to my rights. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
herbie Posted June 5 Report Posted June 5 I don't think he's meaning cultural tattoos, I think he means those weird people who intentionally disfigure themselves thinking it's "cool" instead of a cry for help. Or 'devoted' gang members. Quote
August1991 Posted June 5 Author Report Posted June 5 On 6/4/2025 at 5:20 AM, Michael Hardner said: Indeed, this is the logic of the xenophobe. I don't like how you look, dress, speak: it's an affront to my rights. Your rights? ====== While I admire its intent, I strongly disagree with the federal US Civil Rights of 1964. This US federal act attempted to control private interactions. If I refuse to marry a person of a different race, it is my choice. As Pierre Trudeau famously said. Quote
Aristides Posted June 7 Report Posted June 7 On 6/5/2025 at 4:21 PM, August1991 said: Your rights? ====== While I admire its intent, I strongly disagree with the federal US Civil Rights of 1964. This US federal act attempted to control private interactions. If I refuse to marry a person of a different race, it is my choice. As Pierre Trudeau famously said. No one disputes your right not to get a tattoo. Quote
August1991 Posted June 10 Author Report Posted June 10 On 6/7/2025 at 1:48 PM, Aristides said: No one disputes your right not to get a tattoo. This is my thinking. ==== A person cannot choose their skin colour. By birth, some people are left-handed, others right-handed. This is something they cannot change. It is difficult to learn a new language, almost impossible to lose an accent. The State should be indifferent to such. === But if you choose to have a face tattoo - any tattoo - the State should identify you, and arrest you on this alone. Quote
Barquentine Posted June 11 Report Posted June 11 12 hours ago, August1991 said: But if you choose to have a face tattoo - any tattoo - the State should identify you, and arrest you on this alone. Before I reply...... since I don't know you - are you serious? Quote
August1991 Posted Wednesday at 04:04 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 04:04 AM On 6/11/2025 at 6:11 AM, Barquentine said: Before I reply...... since I don't know you - are you serious? A tattoo is a personal choice. Skin colour is not. In a civilised state, I see a difference. If McDonalds refuses to serve someone with tattoos or I choose to marry a dwarf, it is a private choice. In Canada, we have a bilingual federal State. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted Wednesday at 10:14 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:14 AM 6 hours ago, August1991 said: A tattoo is a personal choice. Skin colour is not. In a civilised state, I see a difference. Why should they be arrested though? Conservatives like myself, we want to maximize freedom of choice. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Barquentine Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 11:34 AM On 6/10/2025 at 6:38 PM, August1991 said: But if you choose to have a face tattoo - any tattoo - the State should identify you, and arrest you on this alone. Why stop there? Arrest anyone with a nose ring, drawn eyebrows, pierced earrings, gaudy makeup, dyed hair, no hair, beards, false eyelashes, sunglasses... F*ck it, arrest anyone you don't like the look of! Quote
August1991 Posted Friday at 01:58 AM Author Report Posted Friday at 01:58 AM On 6/25/2025 at 7:34 AM, Barquentine said: Why stop there? Arrest anyone with a nose ring, drawn eyebrows, pierced earrings, gaudy makeup, dyed hair, no hair, beards, false eyelashes, sunglasses... F*ck it, arrest anyone you don't like the look of! Disagree. If a person chooses to have a nose ring, tattoo, earrings: the State should have the right to arrest you. But if you are left-handed: the State should be indifferent. Quote
August1991 Posted Friday at 02:04 AM Author Report Posted Friday at 02:04 AM On 6/25/2025 at 6:14 AM, Michael Hardner said: Why should they be arrested though? Conservatives like myself, we want to maximize freedom of choice. Conservatives? Freedom of choice? That's Milton Friedman and libertarian - classical liberal. Quote
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