Big Beautiful Bill Passes

[Nationalist]

Well...Trump's Big Beautiful Bill has passed the House.

I like the result.

Thoughts?

[Nationalist]

So...the Democrats are all in an uproar claiming Medicaid and Welfare are being cut. Here's the truth:

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One of the bill's major components includes "community engagement requirements," forcing able-bodied adults without dependents to work, volunteer, or pursue education for at least 80 hours per month. Additionally, Medicaid recipients would need to verify their status with the federal government twice a year instead of once.

This simply put, means that if you are an American citizen, you qualify for Medicaid.

It also means that those on welfare and are deemed "able bodied", must work, volunteer for something (more work), or go to school.

These provisions will keep illegals off Medicaid...which is a good thing...and push "able bodied" welfare recipients to actually DO SOMETHING (which is also good).

How can anyone disagree with this?

Edited Thursday at 04:31 PM by Nationalist

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Well...Trump's Big Beautiful Bill has passed the House.

I like the result.

Thoughts?

I have to take a closer look at it. 

I heard the softer side of the Republican party got its filthy digits on it and watered it down. 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

I have to take a closer look at it. 

I heard the softer side of the Republican party got its filthy digits on it and watered it down. 

Ya they insisted on bigger state deductions. Its "pork" for their constituents...nothing more.

Politicians playing politics. They scream for a balanced budget out one side of their mouths...and scream for less federal income out the other side.

Once Trump is done with the spending needed to finish The Wall and assorted other expenses, I believe he will push for a more balanced budget in the future.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

So...the Democrats are all in an uproar claiming Medicaid and Welfare are being cut. Here's the truth:

This simply put, means that if you are an American citizen, you qualify for Medicaid.

It also means that those on welfare and are deemed "able bodied", must work, volunteer for something (more work), or go to school.

These provisions will keep illegals off Medicaid...which is a good thing...and push "able bodied" welfare recipients to actually DO SOMETHING (which is also good).

How can anyone disagree with this?

You OBVIOUSLY don't know the details about the House bill.

For one thing, it forces the unprecedented cutting of $500 BILLION from Medicare.

Fortunately it is unlikely to be passed by the Senate.

[Nationalist]

59 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You OBVIOUSLY don't know the details about the House bill.

For one thing, it forces the unprecedented cutting of $500 BILLION from Medicare.

Fortunately it is unlikely to be passed by the Senate.

So what? Is that $500B well spent or wasted on non-citizens?

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So what? Is that $500B well spent or wasted on non-citizens?

YOU ^don't know what you're LYING about.

Non-citizens can pay for and be eligible for Medicare. The cut to Medicare is hidden and mandated by PAYGO laws.

Yes, non-U.S. citizens can be eligible for Medicare, but it depends on their immigration status and work history. Generally, they need to be lawful permanent residents (Green Card holders) who have resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years. Additionally, they may need to have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters) to qualify for premium-free Part A. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Undocumented Immigrants: Undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Medicare. 

• Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs): Green Card holders who have lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years are eligible for Medicare. 
   
• Work History: LPRs can also qualify for Medicare if they have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters). 
   

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

YOU ^don't know what you're LYING about.

Non-citizens can pay for and be eligible for Medicare. The cut to Medicare is hidden and mandated by PAYGO laws.

Yes, non-U.S. citizens can be eligible for Medicare, but it depends on their immigration status and work history. Generally, they need to be lawful permanent residents (Green Card holders) who have resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years. Additionally, they may need to have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters) to qualify for premium-free Part A. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Undocumented Immigrants: Undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Medicare. 

• Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs): Green Card holders who have lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years are eligible for Medicare. 
   
• Work History: LPRs can also qualify for Medicare if they have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters). 
   

Fck your non-citizens. Enough is enough.

[Hodad]

34 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Fck your non-citizens. Enough is enough.

Especially you.

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

How can anyone disagree with this?

Workfare isn't exactly a new idea, some countries have had work houses for the poor before.

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

It also means that those on welfare and are deemed "able bodied", must work, volunteer for something (more work), or go to school.

I think a resurgent moral imperative to not be a drag on society along with the rise of AI and automation in the workplace might result in an even stranger dystopian world.

 

[Nationalist]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

Workfare isn't exactly a new idea, some countries have had work houses for the poor before.

I think a resurgent moral imperative to not be a drag on society along with the rise of AI and automation in the workplace might result in an even stranger dystopian world.

 

Stranger than where we are now? How so?

11 hours ago, Hodad said:

Especially you.

Yes I would not qualify for Medicaid or welfare. And?

[User]

I am excited for suppressors being removed from the NFA registry and the tax stamp! Hopefully that survives. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Stranger than where we are now? How so?

What do you think will happen when you don't need people to work but people need to work?

[Nationalist]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What do you think will happen when you don't need people to work but people need to work?

If we're that stupid, then we deserve what we get.

I am not a big supporter of AI. It's dangerous. 

[Deluge]

18 hours ago, robosmith said:

YOU ^don't know what you're LYING about.

Non-citizens can pay for and be eligible for Medicare. The cut to Medicare is hidden and mandated by PAYGO laws.

Yes, non-U.S. citizens can be eligible for Medicare, but it depends on their immigration status and work history. Generally, they need to be lawful permanent residents (Green Card holders) who have resided in the U.S. for at least 5 years. Additionally, they may need to have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters) to qualify for premium-free Part A. 

 

Here's a more detailed explanation:

• Undocumented Immigrants: Undocumented immigrants are generally not eligible for Medicare. 

• Lawful Permanent Residents (LPRs): Green Card holders who have lived in the U.S. for at least 5 years are eligible for Medicare. 
   
• Work History: LPRs can also qualify for Medicare if they have worked in Medicare-covered employment for at least 10 years (40 quarters). 
   

YOU don't know who YOU are SHILLING for. 

Or maybe you do. 

Either way, globalist sluts are being stripped of power and it's a glorious sight.  

[August1991]

On 5/22/2025 at 11:23 AM, Nationalist said:

Well...Trump's Big Beautiful Bill has passed the House.

I like the result.

Thoughts?

Let's see if it passes the Senate.

I have not looked at the details - but I trust Johnson.

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SALT. In Canada, this is major.

[eyeball]

On 5/23/2025 at 7:37 AM, Nationalist said:

If we're that stupid, then we deserve what we get.

I am not a big supporter of AI. It's dangerous. 

You MAGA chuds are certainly stupid enough, so stupid you're really dangerous too. You support a guy who's surrounded by the very sort of oligarchs most heavily invested in developing AI.

[User]

On 5/23/2025 at 9:37 AM, Nationalist said:

If we're that stupid, then we deserve what we get.

I am not a big supporter of AI. It's dangerous. 

How is it dangerous?

I use AI every day.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

You MAGA chuds are certainly stupid enough, so stupid you're really dangerous too. You support a guy who's surrounded by the very sort of oligarchs most heavily invested in developing AI.

Did I say I agree with AI development?

Come on man. Be straight for once in your life.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, User said:

How is it dangerous?

I use AI every day.

What do you think an AI program would think if it gained self awareness?

AI is a reflection of the programmer. What if someone like @robosmith gets imprinted on it?

[Venandi]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 What if someone like @robosmith gets imprinted on it?

 Maybe the best case scenario... it would render it totally predictable, mildly amusing and limit its vocabulary to duh and LMAO.

[gatomontes99]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

You MAGA chuds are certainly stupid enough, so stupid you're really dangerous too. You support a guy who's surrounded by the very sort of oligarchs most heavily invested in developing AI.

Yeah, we are so dangerous that 80% of the country agrees with us on trans in sports and bathrooms, ending government waste/abuse/fraud, keeping the tax cuts, deporting illegals and making trade fair.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Did I say I agree with AI development?

No but you support a US administration who wants to make America the leader in AI.

His buddy Lutnic wants to see American robots working in American factories.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

AI is a reflection of the programmer. What if someone like @robosmith gets imprinted on it?

I'd be more worried about an AI imprinted with the ethos and social views of a Koch brother, Trump or Lutnic.