Moonbox Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 40 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Then i was right your not debating in most cases, but using bandwidth to insult people... As opposed to you, who spends his time and bandwidth ranting at and insulting people...and then whining about being insulted? 42 minutes ago, Army Guy said: maybe you should step away from this topic as it does look like your the one that does not know WTF your talking about.... Because out of the two of us, you're the one who was educated on and earns his living from economics and finance, right? 🥴👍 56 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I do want to thank you for taking your time to provide sources this time...it must be snowing where you are ... ...and thanks for proving why a source is wasted on you. 5 different cites and quotes, and you just fly past it with barely a comment beyond "Flaherty was his boss and saying good things about him is what bosses do." I even quoted a National Post article (and you love citing them) explaining what he did and why he was so highly regarded. Your response? **crickets** 58 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I've told you this before as well as provide sources Carney record in the UK is not all that and a bag of tea You provided garbage sources. Scouring the internet for anyone you can find that says something bad about Carney is questionable enough, but coming to us proudly with gems like Liz Truss, or conspiracy treatises on Carney's nefarious role in the "Great Reset" shows us how strict your information filter is: Any information that doesn't support what you what you want to hear gets tossed, no matter what, and anything that tells you what you want to hear is accepted with almost literally zero scrutiny. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted May 12 Report Posted May 12 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: As opposed to you, who spends his time and bandwidth ranting at and insulting people...and then whining about being insulted? Because out of the two of us, you're the one who was educated on and earns his living from economics and finance, right? 🥴👍 ...and thanks for proving why a source is wasted on you. 5 different cites and quotes, and you just fly past it with barely a comment beyond "Flaherty was his boss and saying good things about him is what bosses do." I even quoted a National Post article (and you love citing them) explaining what he did and why he was so highly regarded. Your response? **crickets** You provided garbage sources. Scouring the internet for anyone you can find that says something bad about Carney is questionable enough, but coming to us proudly with gems like Liz Truss, or conspiracy treatises on Carney's nefarious role in the "Great Reset" shows us how strict your information filter is: Any information that doesn't support what you what you want to hear gets tossed, no matter what, and anything that tells you what you want to hear is accepted with almost literally zero scrutiny. yup thats me, still whining.... Well for someone claiming to educated on the subject, it is hard to tell from your posts....dripping with hate and hardly addressing the topic at hand, GOV of BOC does not control Canada's economy, it assists in controlling interest rates and providing advice to government when needed or asked for but then again with your vast knowledge of the subject you knew that already........No where in your sources does it say Carney was instrumental in the crises in 2008....I think that credit goes to Flaherty right and carney made it sound like it was all him....Even got corrected by Harper himself.....was like the old Minster of national defence taking credit for op medusa it's a liberal thing...........or did i miss something........but you go girl....dozens of people on this forum also have the same opinion of you, so maybe it is not me maybe it's you.... you got one glowing review from the FP , i guess i should be bowing down to his greatness, and yet i provided you with over 4 from British sources and 2 from Canadian sources that do not providing glowing reviews but you shrugged them off...because they don't support your augment....i guess we have that in common or so you say... Yes you did quote some sources, good on you, it is a first i've seen you post, and you know what thank you....but they really don't say much do they.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted Tuesday at 06:21 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:21 PM On 5/11/2025 at 10:46 PM, Army Guy said: Well for someone claiming to educated on the subject, it is hard to tell from your posts. Regurgitating 3 years of Pierre's dumdum populism has made you worse than uninformed on the topic. How would you know either way? On 5/11/2025 at 10:46 PM, Army Guy said: I think that credit goes to Flaherty right and carney made it sound like it was all him. For all the time and energy you spent conflating how Carney was an (informal) "advisor" to Trudeau, it's (not at all) curious how you aren't interested in how much advice Flaherty (the lawyer) sought out from the economics PhD he hired to run the BoC. 🙄 On 5/11/2025 at 10:46 PM, Army Guy said: you got one glowing review from the FP , i guess i should be bowing down to his greatness, and yet i provided you with over 4 from British sources and 2 from Canadian sources that do not providing glowing reviews You should be embarrassed by the sources you provided, rather than continuing to bring them up. You cited Liz Truss, the former UK PM who was turfed after 40 days for her incompetence. You also cited a conspiracy treatise written and self-published by a nobody that you can barely even find online. What that tells us is that your research on the topic amounted to Googling "Why Carneyman bad?" You didn't actually research him or what people say about him. Carney was running for the Liberals, so you went scrambling to the interweb to find literally anything, no matter how ridiculous, that said bad things about him. That's the extent of your reasoning and knowledge on these topics. On 5/11/2025 at 10:46 PM, Army Guy said: Yes you did quote some sources, good on you, it is a first i've seen you post, and you know what thank you....but they really don't say much do they.... I'd argue they say a lot. When Flaherty's former deputy chief of staff speaks out publicly against Poilievre's team and how they tried to rewrite history and reality, that tells people something (but not you obviously). When I cite the National Post, a source you quote frequently, talking about how Carney was one of the smartest central bankers in the world and about the important things he did during the financial crisis, that too should register. Sadly, you curate your reality and your head's too deep in the sand. 🤷♂️ Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
August1991 Posted Wednesday at 05:30 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 05:30 AM On 5/9/2025 at 1:08 PM, CdnFox said: Commentators said that while this is usually a disadvantage, in this particular election that may very well have worked in his favor. .... Agreed. ===== I am sure that Dion and Ignatieff are wondering how Carney did it. Surely the federal Liberal campaign staff feel proud. Quote
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:21 PM On 5/13/2025 at 3:21 PM, Moonbox said: You should be embarrassed by the sources you provided, rather than continuing to bring them up. You cited Liz Truss, the former UK PM who was turfed after 40 days for her incompetence. You also cited a conspiracy treatise written and self-published by a nobody that you can barely even find online. What that tells us is that your research on the topic amounted to Googling "Why Carneyman bad?" You didn't actually research him or what people say about him. Carney was running for the Liberals, so you went scrambling to the interweb to find literally anything, no matter how ridiculous, that said bad things about him. That's the extent of your reasoning and knowledge on these topics. I'd argue they say a lot. When Flaherty's former deputy chief of staff speaks out publicly against Poilievre's team and how they tried to rewrite history and reality, that tells people something (but not you obviously). When I cite the National Post, a source you quote frequently, talking about how Carney was one of the smartest central bankers in the world and about the important things he did during the financial crisis, that too should register. Sadly, you curate your reality and your head's too deep in the sand. 🤷♂️ I did cite LiZ Truss, who was pm of the UK, who regardless of YOUR opinion she was still the PM, must have known something to get to those rank levels....The book i suggested you read, is a Biography written by someone that has Mark Carney best interest in mind, there is nothing in that book that is negative about your hero, it explains all those myths in some detail....nothing conspiracy about it...other sources i linked to was the UK chief financial editor who wrote a lengthy about Mark Carney and very little of it was flattering....The of course the Canadian side of things like harpers article, etc etc...So i stand behind my sources... Yes i did research him including read his biography written by james powell , can't wait until your next accusation....As far as google search there is not much out there that does paint a good picture of Mark Carney....Not sure what you based your opinions on, i think you stopped as soon as you read he went to Oxford..... that was good enough for most liberal voters... Your guy made a lot of promises, he is the one with the mountain to climb....to put Canada back together after the liberals broke the sh!t of it....and in 2 years time we'll see who made the right choice...and after he spends 650 bil of new spending or investments as he calls them, he'll either be a hero, or a dud... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
cougar Posted Wednesday at 08:33 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:33 PM On 5/8/2025 at 10:03 PM, August1991 said: I have never met Mark Carney in person. I knew people that knew him and they all said that he was an ambitious guy. Ambitious guy? OK..... Not the first politician who is ambitious. ====== Now that I see him on Youtube, he has no charisma. Boring AF, as the kids say. What has he done to you??? This must be the 10th useless thread you start with "Mark Carney" in the subject. Mark Carney this, Mark Carney that. What do you expect to happen on Day 1 ??? A new special tax for August1991 of 245%? Quote
Army Guy Posted Wednesday at 08:36 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:36 PM 2 minutes ago, cougar said: What has he done to you??? This must be the 10th useless thread you start with "Mark Carney" in the subject. Mark Carney this, Mark Carney that. What do you expect to happen on Day 1 ??? A new special tax for August1991 of 245%? Yes but we all get along.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 08:59 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 08:59 PM 21 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes but we all get along.... You shut up now. It's bad enough i've got a picture of HIM on my dartboard for over using that, don't make me switch to lawn darts. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM Report Posted Thursday at 07:22 PM 22 hours ago, Army Guy said: Yes i did research him including read his biography written by james powell , can't wait until your next accusation Okay...get ready for it: ... ... ... That "biography" was even written by a human: "In total, some 30 titles were published about Carney this year and made available on Amazon — but most were taken down from the site after inquiries from Bloomberg News." "One author, James A. Powell, put his name to at least three books about the former central banker" Another book by Powell called ‘Mark Carney: The Unelected Power Broker of the 21st Century,’ which is still available, begins with an error, falsely claiming Carney graduated from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. https://financialpost.com/federal_election/ai-floods-amazon-with-strange-political-books-before-canadian-election What else is there to say here, really? When you're so blindly and hysterically biased that you fall for AI-generated slop propaganda (and apparently paid to be able to read it), I'm not sure anything or anyone is capable of getting through to you. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM Report Posted Thursday at 07:26 PM 3 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Okay...get ready for it: ... ... ... That "biography" was even written by a human: "In total, some 30 titles were published about Carney this year and made available on Amazon — but most were taken down from the site after inquiries from Bloomberg News." "One author, James A. Powell, put his name to at least three books about the former central banker" Another book by Powell called ‘Mark Carney: The Unelected Power Broker of the 21st Century,’ which is still available, begins with an error, falsely claiming Carney graduated from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. https://financialpost.com/federal_election/ai-floods-amazon-with-strange-political-books-before-canadian-election What else is there to say here, really? When you're so blindly and hysterically biased that you fall for AI-generated slop propaganda (and apparently paid to be able to read it), I'm not sure anything or anyone is capable of getting through to you. So which part of the books did you think were wrong? This is an old game of yours. You say the books aren't valid, point to the sections that are wrong. If you can't do that then the only person who is full of shit here and subject to propaganda is you Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted Thursday at 08:40 PM Report Posted Thursday at 08:40 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: So which part of the books did you think were wrong? This is an old game of yours. You say the books aren't valid, point to the sections that are wrong. You mean other than the obvious, ridiculous error I already quoted, and the fact that the National Post is highlighting it as AI-generated slop, and the fact that the book has been removed from most vendor websites? Did you actually have an intelligent point, or were you just following me around like a butthurt puppy? 🤡 Edited Thursday at 08:44 PM by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: You mean other than the obvious, ridiculous error I already quoted, and the fact that the National Post is highlighting it as AI-generated slop, and the fact that the book has been removed from most vendor websites? You mean the one minor error about his university? That's inconsequential to the point. Virtually every book winds up containing an error or two, and there are often corrections in later versions published. So what i'm talking about is actual meaningful errors that change the nature of what the book says. I take it by your attempt at deflection that would be a 'no' So you can't refute the contents of the book, so you're going to attack the book itself. A cheap trick. As i said. Quote Did you actually have an intelligent point, or were you just following me around like a butthurt puppy? 🤡 That WAS an intelligent point. I'm not surprised you couldn't tell the difference And look at you, learning how to copy your betters Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM Report Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM On 5/9/2025 at 10:08 AM, CdnFox said: And frankly your beloved liberals just ran 10 years on hair and socks. So let's not pretend that competency is what they were after 🤣 so true 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Army Guy Posted Friday at 01:27 AM Report Posted Friday at 01:27 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, Moonbox said: Okay...get ready for it: ... ... ... That "biography" was even written by a human: "In total, some 30 titles were published about Carney this year and made available on Amazon — but most were taken down from the site after inquiries from Bloomberg News." "One author, James A. Powell, put his name to at least three books about the former central banker" Another book by Powell called ‘Mark Carney: The Unelected Power Broker of the 21st Century,’ which is still available, begins with an error, falsely claiming Carney graduated from Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario. https://financialpost.com/federal_election/ai-floods-amazon-with-strange-political-books-before-canadian-election What else is there to say here, really? When you're so blindly and hysterically biased that you fall for AI-generated slop propaganda (and apparently paid to be able to read it), I'm not sure anything or anyone is capable of getting through to you. Thats quit the build up for only one mistake....Get ready for it was your quote right...everyone was ready for this Got ya moment only to be let down.... weeks before you accused me of not even reading the book, Well this week we went from the book was nothing more than a bunch of conspiracies' theories' to now it has one mistake factual error....to which you've thrown out the entire book....You make it sound like i intentional went out of my way to deceive you, or something.... Book has 388 pages, you've managed to pick out one mistake,in all that.... Man your good, have you really got anything else.....any ways i did purchase the book with the intent of getting to know your hero and what drives him. But then again nobody is as perfect as you are, must have holes in your hands ands feet. I also like to remind you, that you constantly posted on here about Justin mishandling of the budget, and our economy, Yet you voted for the liberals thinking that Carney can be the only one to save us as HE is a banker....You also knew he was going to spend north of 123 bil this year in campaign promises, and another 5-600 bil over the next 5 years in what he calls investments...Way more than justin ever spent....I guess all the economic training you claim you have has left the building,i mean liberals can't be wrong 4 terms in a row can they.... PS thanks for the source....at least we have that to fall back on... Edited Friday at 01:37 AM by Army Guy 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
August1991 Posted Friday at 01:33 AM Author Report Posted Friday at 01:33 AM On 5/14/2025 at 4:33 PM, cougar said: What has he done to you??? This must be the 10th useless thread you start with "Mark Carney" in the subject. Mark Carney this, Mark Carney that. What do you expect to happen on Day 1 ??? A new special tax for August1991 of 245%? Mark Carney has done nothing to me personally. But the vast majority of Canadians know absolutely nothing about him. Most Canadians simply don't who this guy is. ===== I suspect that many voted federal Liberal (Mark Carney) because of Donald Trump. Quote
cougar Posted Friday at 02:15 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:15 AM 39 minutes ago, August1991 said: Mark Carney has done nothing to me personally. But the vast majority of Canadians know absolutely nothing about him. Most Canadians simply don't who this guy is. ===== I suspect that many voted federal Liberal (Mark Carney) because of Donald Trump. Oh my God! I don't even know who my neighbors are after 15 years, don't know those I work with for over 10 years... I don't sleep with them. In some cases you may even sleep with someone and still not know who they are. What is your problem? 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted Friday at 02:59 AM Report Posted Friday at 02:59 AM 42 minutes ago, cougar said: Oh my God! I don't even know who my neighbors are after 15 years, don't know those I work with for over 10 years... I don't sleep with them. In some cases you may even sleep with someone and still not know who they are. What is your problem? Your neighbor won't be setting your tax rate next week. Your neighbor won't be deciding whether or not to come seize your firearms. Your neighbor won't be restricting your freedoms on the internet with new speech laws. Your neighbor won't be burdening your grandchildren with new deficit spending which will once again double the national debt in a few years So it doesn't really matter that you don't know your neighbor. It does matter a lot that you don't know carney Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
August1991 Posted Friday at 03:23 AM Author Report Posted Friday at 03:23 AM 1 hour ago, cougar said: .... I don't even know who my neighbors are after 15 years, don't know those I work with for over 10 years... I don't sleep with them. In some cases you may even sleep with someone and still not know who they are. What is your problem? Americans are good neighbors. And they could not hope for better neighbours. 1 Quote
cougar Posted Friday at 06:17 AM Report Posted Friday at 06:17 AM 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Your neighbor won't be setting your tax rate next week. Your neighbor won't be deciding whether or not to come seize your firearms. Your neighbor won't be restricting your freedoms on the internet with new speech laws. Your neighbor won't be burdening your grandchildren with new deficit spending which will once again double the national debt in a few years So it doesn't really matter that you don't know your neighbor. It does matter a lot that you don't know carney You missed the point by a mile again. Maybe you have to spend the rest of the day figuring out what I was trying to tell you? You and just about anyone else has no chance to get to know a politician, given their information will be obtained from the media. And just as i said, even in real life people do not get to know one another all that well to be able to predict with certainty who will do what and how they will react in different situations. Quote
CdnFox Posted Friday at 06:45 AM Report Posted Friday at 06:45 AM 25 minutes ago, cougar said: You missed the point by a mile again. Maybe you have to spend the rest of the day figuring out what I was trying to tell you? I got the point dead on, you realize what you said was stupid, now you're embarrassed and trying to retcon a new meaning to what you said. Like I've said before I'm sure you slay them on the elementary school playgrounds at recess Quote You and just about anyone else has no chance to get to know a politician, given their information will be obtained from the media. I have known many, some well, but anybody can learn their track record and their job performance. It's not radically complicated Quote And just as i said, even in real life people do not get to know one another all that well to be able to predict with certainty who will do what and how they will react in different situations. What you're saying is it's not difficult to know people. My god you're useless Twat 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Moonbox Posted Friday at 01:08 PM Report Posted Friday at 01:08 PM 10 hours ago, Army Guy said: Thats quit the build up for only one mistake....Get ready for it was your quote right...everyone was ready for this Got ya moment only to be let down.... Let down by the fact that you're referencing AI-generated slop? 🤡 10 hours ago, Army Guy said: weeks before you accused me of not even reading the book, Well this week we went from the book was nothing more than a bunch of conspiracies' theories' to now it has one mistake factual error Like I said before, it would have looked better on you if you hadn't read it. Now, you're left defending a book that at first looked like standard conspiracy-soup, but actually turned out to not even have a human author. Great job, genius. You're digging in your heels in and insisting that this book (one of three that were spammed out this year by the same "author" within a few months) is still somehow credible. It's still somehow credible despite the fact that as a "biography", it began with an error on something as basic as where Carney attended university (something that Wikipedia can tell you). It's still a worthy source, apparently, despite the fact that the National Post highlighted it as a sham misinformation piece written by AI, and despite the fact that it's been removed from vendor sites and is no longer available. Mon dieu... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
cougar Posted Friday at 06:10 PM Report Posted Friday at 06:10 PM 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: I got the point dead on, you realize what you said was stupid, My god you're useless Twat This forum is an excellent place to meet i-d-i-ots like CumFux and fling insults left and right. Marvelous! I wish we had a large set of appropriate emoticons to go with that. 😁 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM Report Posted yesterday at 12:32 AM 6 hours ago, cougar said: This forum is an excellent place to meet i-d-i-ots Yes it is, and point and laugh at them Kid, i love that you've realized you're completely looking like a retarded dolt but you somehow want it to be my fault Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:07 AM 12 hours ago, Moonbox said: Let down by the fact that you're referencing AI-generated slop? 🤡 Like I said before, it would have looked better on you if you hadn't read it. Now, you're left defending a book that at first looked like standard conspiracy-soup, but actually turned out to not even have a human author. Great job, genius. You're digging in your heels in and insisting that this book (one of three that were spammed out this year by the same "author" within a few months) is still somehow credible. It's still somehow credible despite the fact that as a "biography", it began with an error on something as basic as where Carney attended university (something that Wikipedia can tell you). It's still a worthy source, apparently, despite the fact that the National Post highlighted it as a sham misinformation piece written by AI, and despite the fact that it's been removed from vendor sites and is no longer available. Mon dieu... Yes a book generated by AI, a process that millions are using today, a book that somehow people like you have only found one mistake, like i said early there is 388 pages and you and your source have only found one mistake....You can not even confirm if the entire book is AI written or he did author portions of it... I not digging my heals in on anything, I found the book somewhat informative, the other 99 % of the book checks out even if it is written by AI....with one mistake,I really don't give a sh!t what you think of the book, this is your jam, this is what you contribute to this forum, Attacks, there are literally thousands of pages that you have created with absolutely no value at all , except to trade insults...it is what your here for... It is still being sold i bought it less than 3 weeks ago in chapters, in fact it is still available online.... at several different sources... So much for your facts...Anyways i hope your feeling better tomorrow, you need to see someone about that anger issue... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM Report Posted yesterday at 02:51 AM 37 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes a book generated by AI, a process that millions are using today, a book that somehow people like you have only found one mistake Yes, AI-generated slop that didn't even get a basic editing or fact-checking pass, self-published by a guy who released at least two other books on Carney within weeks of each other. If anyone was going to fall for that, of course it was you. 42 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Attacks, there are literally thousands of pages that you have created with absolutely no value at all , except to trade insults...it is what your here for... Nobody spends more time on this forum crying about attacks and insults than you, and usually in the same breath as you're delivering attacks and insults. 🥴 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
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