Trump wants to bypass immigration courts. Experts warn it's a 'slippery slope.'

[Deluge]

Normal Americans don't give a shit what the "experts" think, we just want the illegal aliens deported. 

Trump is right in wanting to bypass the immigration courts, as the judges want to spend the next 400 years hearing the plea of each and every illegal alien. 

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/29/g-s1-63187/trump-courts-immigration-judges-due-process

 

 

Edited April 29 by Deluge

[robosmith]

DELUGINAL trashing the Constitution AGAIN like the TRAITOR he is. 🤮

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Normal Americans don't give a shit what the "experts" think, we just want the illegal aliens deported. 

Trump is right in wanting to bypass the immigration courts, as the judges want to spend the next 400 years hearing the plea of each and every illegal alien. 

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/29/g-s1-63187/trump-courts-immigration-judges-due-process

If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power.  There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances.  Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George).

Due process takes some extra time.  Boo-hoo.

[Hodad]

10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power.  There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances.  Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George).

Due process takes some extra time.  Boo-hoo.

We used to have a large population of conservatives in this country, a group that clung, perhaps too tightly, to tradition. A group who would have sounded every alarm and fought tooth and nail against such radical rapid change, particularly driven by an unchecked executive. 

It seems they've vanished. Replaced almost overnight by radicals. Turns out they never really believed in America after all. 

[gatomontes99]

Just now, Hodad said:

We used to have a large population of conservatives in this country, a group that clung, perhaps too tightly, to tradition. A group who would have sounded every alarm and fought tooth and nail against such radical rapid change, particularly driven by an unchecked executive. 

It seems they've vanished. Replaced almost overnight by radicals. Turns out they never really believed in America after all. 

That was a disadvantage. We have to be more aggressive because Joe Biden's council of presidents destroyed the system for their political gain.

[Hodad]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

That was a disadvantage. We have to be more aggressive because Joe Biden's council of presidents destroyed the system for their political gain.

^^Exhibit A. 

Joe Biden didn't do anything to the system. His administration was a return to normalcy and a successful economic recovery. That's it. No one is buying "Sleepy Joe" as a radical reformer. That's asinine. 

You probably thought you had conservative values. Turns out you didn't love America as much as you hated the idea of "the other" thriving in America. "If I can't have it to myself, no one can. Burn it down."

[gatomontes99]

54 minutes ago, Hodad said:

^^Exhibit A. 

Joe Biden didn't do anything to the system. His administration was a return to normalcy and a successful economic recovery. That's it. No one is buying "Sleepy Joe" as a radical reformer. That's asinine. 

Lmao...I never said sleepy Joe was in charge. The council of Presidents was. They were radical. They opened the border. They funded Hamas. They allowed terrorists onto their staff. They persecuted parents that attended school board meetings. They opened up the Banana Republic style lawfare on Trump and his staff. I could go on.

The point is, that was not normalcy. That was the greatest threat to our republic since the south separated.

57 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You probably thought you had conservative values. Turns out you didn't love America as much as you hated the idea of "the other" thriving in America. "If I can't have it to myself, no one can. Burn it down."

Really? So I hated the other so much that I supported the guy that made the "other" more prosperous? You do know Trump lifted more black and Hispanic citizens out of poverty than any president ever? He is the one that signed prison reform to counter Joe Biden's law that unfairly targeted black men.

Get a clue @Hodad. You are everything you claim I am.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Lmao...I never said sleepy Joe was in charge. The council of Presidents was. They were radical. They opened the border. They funded Hamas. They allowed terrorists onto their staff. They persecuted parents that attended school board meetings. They opened up the Banana Republic style lawfare on Trump and his staff. I could go on.

You could go repeating the LIES you heard on FOS LIES.

Allowing asylum claims is NOT "opening the border." A very large number were deported.

Netanyahu funded Hamas more than ANYONE. You have ZERO evidence for Hamas funding from the US government.

How Israel Secretly Propped Up Hamas

The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com › World › Middle East

 

Dec 10, 2023 — Netanyahu's aides presented a new plan: Every month, the Qatari government would make millions of dollars in cash payments directly to people in ...

 

Qatar sent millions to Gaza for years – with Israel's backing. ...

CNN

https://www.cnn.com › 2023/12/11 › middleeast › qatar...

 

Dec 12, 2023 — The funding deal is one reason why many Israelis today place part of the blame for the October 7 Hamas terror attack on Netanyahu personally.

The only parents who were prosecuted for crimes committed at School Board meeting were those who were VIOLENT.

And unlike Trump WHO PROMISED LAWFARE, Biden never said a WORD about prosecuting Trump for HIS CRIMES.

However it is highly unlikely that the truth will EVER penetrate your cognitive dissonance because you're wedded to FOS LIES.

[Deluge]

18 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

1. If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power. 

2. There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances.  Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George).

3. Due process takes some extra time.  Boo-hoo.

1. There is no law and due process that supports illegal aliens. There's just deportations and filing appeals at the POE. 

What the judges are tying to do is keep criminal invaders inside the country and usurp the power of the executive branch. That's not going to work, of course, as some judges are already being arrested. 

2. The founding fathers didn't design the SCOTUS to take over the Executive Branch. There is overreach in those scumbag courts, and Trump is already pushing back. 

3. Due process takes zero time when illegals are deported. That way they can file appeals from Mexico and wait there rather than wander aimlessly in the US while they suck up tax dollars. 

Edited April 30 by Deluge

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You could go repeating the LIES you heard on FOS LIES.

Actually, the Council of Presidents was a claim by a former staffer. I have no idea if she's been on Fox News.

 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Allowing asylum claims is NOT "opening the border." A very large number were deported.

Yes it is because Asylum must be claimed the first time you cross a border and the vast majority of asylum seekers did not come from Mexico. They were invited by Joe, though. And a very small number were deported. They counted the turn backs, just like Obama did.

 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The only parents who were prosecuted for crimes committed at School Board meeting were those who were VIOLENT.

Uh, no. They targeted a dad, whose daughter was sexually assaulted by a guy claiming to be female while they were in a girls bathroom. He wasn't violent. None of them were violent. Some protested sexually graphic materials in the library.

 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

And unlike Trump WHO PROMISED LAWFARE, Biden never said a WORD about prosecuting Trump for HIS CRIMES.

Well that is a bald face lie. Do you not remember Biden saying that he will take any means necessary to keep tlTrump out of office? Then he added, as an after thought, "constitutionally." Then the WH sent the #3 from the DOJ to be an entry level prosecutor in NY and met multiple times with the DA from GA and her boy toy. They also, illegally, set up a special council with unlimited scope, raided his home without a specific location to look for the documents (warrants have to be very specific), planted top secret folders to make the documents seem important and good gawd so much more. But yeah, Trump (who declined to go after Hillary) is the problem.

 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

However it is highly unlikely that the truth will EVER penetrate your cognitive dissonance because you're wedded to FOS LIES.

You guys aand your projection. And we've shown you on so many occasions that you aren't using the term cognitive dissonance properly. Just stop already. I'm embarrassed for you.

Edited April 30 by gatomontes99

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, Deluge said:

1. There is no law and due process that supports illegal aliens. There's just deportations and filing appeals at the POE. 

What the judges are tying to do is keep criminal invaders inside the country and usurp the power of the executive branch. That's not going to work, of course, as some judges are already being arrested. 

2. The founding fathers didn't design the SCOTUS to take over the Executive Branch. There is overreach in those scumbag courts, and Trump is already pushing back. 

3. Due process takes zero time when illegals are deported. That way they can file appeals from Mexico and wait there rather than wander aimlessly in the US while they suck up tax dollars. 

I will agree that the judicial system needs to stop acting political, both in Canada and the US.  Their job is to objectively interpret the law as written, not based on their own ideological activism.  They're undermining democracy too.

[Nationalist]

On 4/30/2025 at 7:04 AM, Hodad said:

We used to have a large population of conservatives in this country, a group that clung, perhaps too tightly, to tradition. A group who would have sounded every alarm and fought tooth and nail against such radical rapid change, particularly driven by an unchecked executive. 

It seems they've vanished. Replaced almost overnight by radicals. Turns out they never really believed in America after all. 

Boo hoo hoo...

'We used to have a bunch of RINOs bought and paid for. But now they won't sell-out Americans and they are ejecting our sell-out allies. We have real opposition now. OMG! Call CNN and the others! We have to convince America these real Conservatives are NAZIs!'

Lol...you flakes lost. Your uni-party is disappearing fast.

Sucks to be you these days...eh?

[User]

On 4/29/2025 at 4:49 PM, robosmith said:

DELUGINAL trashing the Constitution AGAIN like the TRAITOR he is. 🤮

Not that you care when Democrats trash the Constitution to allow the invasion of illegal immigrants. 

This is a mess you folks support and now Trump is trying to clean it up. 

[User]

On 4/30/2025 at 6:20 AM, Hodad said:

You probably thought you had conservative values. Turns out you didn't love America as much as you hated the idea of "the other" thriving in America. "If I can't have it to myself, no one can. Burn it down."

This has to be one of the most assinine things you have said on here recently. 

"the other"

You mean... ILLEGAL Immigrants? Yes. We do not support the open borders madness you do. America only exists as a country to love because it is a nation defined by borders. 

If we just let the entire world invade then there is no more America. 

You are the ones burning it down who don't give a shit how many Americans are murdered, raped, or harmed by ILLEGAL immigrants. 

 

[Deluge]

On 4/30/2025 at 5:20 AM, Hodad said:

^^Exhibit A. 

Joe Biden didn't do anything to the system. His administration was a return to normalcy and a successful economic recovery. That's it. No one is buying "Sleepy Joe" as a radical reformer. That's asinine. 

You probably thought you had conservative values. Turns out you didn't love America as much as you hated the idea of "the other" thriving in America. "If I can't have it to myself, no one can. Burn it down."

Define success. What was successful about Biden's economy? I've heard you woketards talk about jobs, but that's only a slice of the pie. So besides the 88,000 IRS goons he had ready to unleash on our citizenry, what else did he add? 

[Deluge]

On 4/29/2025 at 3:49 PM, robosmith said:

DELUGINAL trashing the Constitution AGAIN like the TRAITOR he is. 🤮

robowoke thinks the US constitution is the framework for global marxism. 

robowoke is a dumbass. 

[Nationalist]

On 4/29/2025 at 8:23 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If you reject the law and due process it means you're a tyrant because then the POTUS can just do whatever they want with no check on his executive power.  There's a very good and specific reason why the US founding fathers created the SCOTUS, separation of powers, and checks and balances.  Because they knew first-hand the dangers of a tyrant (King George).

Due process takes some extra time.  Boo-hoo.

Hey jack-ass...tell these people "Boo-hoo".

 

 

 

 

"Boo-hoo" indeed...you slimy little sh1t!

[Moonlight Graham]

22 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Hey jack-ass...tell these people "Boo-hoo".

"Boo-hoo" indeed...you slimy little sh1t!

Sorry but even criminals deserve their day in court.

Also, stay classy you tantrum- throwing toddler.

 

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Sorry but even criminals deserve their day in court.

Also, stay classy you tantrum- throwing toddler.

 

A court of the common man behind the chemical sheds.

[Nationalist]

Just now, Moonlight Graham said:

Sorry but even criminals deserve their day in court.

Also, stay classy you tantrum- throwing toddler.

 

Sorry? These animals deserve a cap in the head. Mayorkis deserves a cage for the rest of his miserable life.

Stay slimy...you moral-less little twerp.

[User]

48 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Sorry but even criminals deserve their day in court.

Also, stay classy you tantrum- throwing toddler.

 

Well... no, due process is not defined as "day in court"

We already have completely lawful process of expedited removals. Suppose a border patrol agent is literally there at the border and someone comes across illegally and they get arrested for doing so. In that case, the border patrol doesn't have to take them to court and wait for 6 months of appeals from the ACLU to run their course before deporting them. 

You guys are not interested in due process or a day in court as much as you are simply invested in seeing open borders madness continue and trying to fight the deportation of folks here illegally as much as you can. 

 

[Nationalist]

41 minutes ago, User said:

Well... no, due process is not defined as "day in court"

We already have completely lawful process of expedited removals. Suppose a border patrol agent is literally there at the border and someone comes across illegally and they get arrested for doing so. In that case, the border patrol doesn't have to take them to court and wait for 6 months of appeals from the ACLU to run their course before deporting them. 

You guys are not interested in due process or a day in court as much as you are simply invested in seeing open borders madness continue and trying to fight the deportation of folks here illegally as much as you can. 

 

IMO...I don't think the Libbies even care what the issue is. Most of them know its a bad idea to allow millions of people to waltz across the border. They know men in dresses are still men as well. No Sir...I think they take any position that is opposite to that of Trump.

If Trump says the sky is blue...they say its red. Trump loves the Stars and Stripes...they burn it.

And then there's the ACLU...what a pack o' hypocrites. Bought and paid for globalist junkies. I hope the trashing of USAID bankrupts those sick fcks.

[Hodad]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Boo hoo hoo...

'We used to have a bunch of RINOs bought and paid for. But now they won't sell-out Americans and they are ejecting our sell-out allies. We have real opposition now. OMG! Call CNN and the others! We have to convince America these real Conservatives are NAZIs!'

Lol...you flakes lost. Your uni-party is disappearing fast.

Sucks to be you these days...eh?

As with most things, I don't think you've thought this through. 

We didn't have RINOs. We just had Republicans. That's just what Republicans were for many decades. The right wing radicals taking over that party are the ones who are outliers adopting a new name.

Right now it sucks to be any American who believes in American values. People who believe in the virtue of the constitution, in checks and balances, in the rule of law, civil rights and democracy in general are not having a very good time, watching 250 years of idealism unravel does indeed suck. 

[Deluge]

11 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Right now it sucks to be any American who believes in American values. 

It used to suck until this last January 20th. Now there's genuine hope.

We're already seeing the reversal of mass illegal invasion, and we're seeing positive gains against the woke pandemic. The next big step has been to fix Biden's f*cked up economy. We'll be up and running once we get all that shit under control. 

Edited May 1 by Deluge

[Hodad]

On 4/30/2025 at 8:19 AM, gatomontes99 said:

Lmao...I never said sleepy Joe was in charge. The council of Presidents was. They were radical. They opened the border. They funded Hamas. They allowed terrorists onto their staff. They persecuted parents that attended school board meetings. They opened up the Banana Republic style lawfare on Trump and his staff. I could go on.

The point is, that was not normalcy. That was the greatest threat to our republic since the south separated.

That's wildly stupid. Just made-up nonsense. The "Council of Presidents" is some random crap you read on Twitter. And no, nobody opened the border. And no, reverting to non-COVID status quo of border law is, by definition, not radical. No, they didn't fund Hamas. Nor were parents persecuted, etc. 

And holding people accountable for breaking the law is not lawfare. 

You're just a full-on raging loon. Like you've been mainlining Newsmax concentrate or something. It's weird to see people enter another reality entirely. 

 

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Really? So I hated the other so much that I supported the guy that made the "other" more prosperous? You do know Trump lifted more black and Hispanic citizens out of poverty than any president ever? He is the one that signed prison reform to counter Joe Biden's law that unfairly targeted black men.

Get a clue @Hodad. You are everything you claim I am.

This again? Can you identify any employment or income programs that Trump put in place for Black and Hispanic Americans? 

Oh, wait. No. He just happened to inherit a robust economy approaching full employment. And in which Black employment and wages lagged behind the rest of the economy just as much as they always have. 

If he had closed that gap you'd have a story, but what you are actually trying to do is give him credit for something he didn't prioritize or cause in the least. 

MAGA clearly isn't about any America we've had before. Rather, it's about hate of the other--marginalization of the already marginalized. A reclamation of power by white men who are (probably rightly) scared that many of them can't compete without the benefit of privilege.