Conservatives Have Taken the Lead in Federal Polls

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Dave L said:

Sounds like you have changed your mind now.  Following Ontario Politics after all.

That makes no sense at all Dave 😂

I didn't "change my mind and start following Ontario politics", I just listened to what two people said about Doug Ford ... FYI that's not "following Ontario politics".

Did you know that Tonya Harding got her boyfriend to hit Nancy Kerrigan on the knee with a pipe before a competition? Does that mean that "you follow women's figure skating"? 😂😂😂

Guess what, Dave? Cdn and Couch Potato answered my questions about Ford and I took them at their word because unlike you, I have no problem vouching for the knowledge and credibility of people/organizations I trust. I have no problem stating unequivocally that Cdn Fox has more integrity than the CBC any day of the week. Period. I don't know couch potato as well but I've never caught them being dishonest so again, CP is ahead of the CBC by leaps and bounds. 

A man on the street instantly starts off with more credibility than CBC because I have no proof that his credibility is at zero.

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Yeah, I don't think the conservatives have really grasped how important this stuff is. Personally, I don't really care that much. I really like Pierre. I really liked Harper. I don't have to see their families. I don't have to see them hugging a cat or working at the McDonald's drivethru. I did polling back in 2009 when Harper sang that Beatles song. Right after that the calls got a lot more positive. Especially with elderly ladies. You'd hear them say things like, "I never thought much of him before, but it was so nice to see him play the piano and sing. I like him now." And I would just be sitting there thinking, "Wait that's what you like? That's what you vote for?"

Some people just don't do a good job of compartmentalizing things that don't belong together. 

"I like the way he sings so I think he'll make a good PM" is actually more sensible than "he's a feminist so his frequent, massive scandals don't matter", but voters make those connections all the time.

I think you made a good point though, conservatives could probably collect a lot more votes in the middle by sprinkling a bit of Trudeau's pixie dust than by just droning on about common sense and sound policy all the time. Some people just respond better to shallow flattery than logic and honesty. 

[PIK]

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

The Liberals are in anything but a downfall.  That is, yet another example of misinformation.  

The only reason the.libs are in it, is because the collapse of the other parties.  And you do have Ms May saying all parties need to come together to beat PP. The majority of voters want the cons, but the coalition of the lovers is screwing up the real results.  Sad.

[CdnFox]

9 hours ago, Dave L said:

But somehow Premier Smiths request to a foreign leader (Donald Trump) to pause tariffs till after the election is done, is okay with you. 

LOL so "whataboutism" is the best you could do  

Yes, It is perfectly normal for a premier to speak to another country about economic policy that directly impacts them.  Wh wouldn't it be? Canada cannot effectively negotiate while in the middle of an election and giving Canada the room to pick a leader who will then meet with trump is entirely a reasonable ask for the premier of a province 

I notice you have NO such criticism for Doug ford who launched retaliatory tariffs on his own authority and has provoked trump into greater anger towards Canada without any permission from other premiers or the feds. 

So not only are you discussing this dishonestly by not addressing the point, but you're also exposing your own personal hypocrisy. 

Well done. Not everyone can manage to fail two entirely different ways in the same post   

[Dave L]

14 hours ago, Goddess said:

They voted against the Liberal PLAN for them.

If you watched the HoC proceedings and not just CBC news, you'd know that.

 

Poilievre rejects Liberals' national pharmacare plan | National Post

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I am not sure where you get your info.

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, PIK said:

 And you do have Ms May saying all parties need to come together to beat PP. 

"DO IT FOR OMAR!!!!"

[Dave L]

What Smith did and what Ford did were two different thing altogether.  If you fail to see that, something is wrong.

2 hours ago, PIK said:

The only reason the.libs are in it, is because the collapse of the other parties.  And you do have Ms May saying all parties need to come together to beat PP. The majority of voters want the cons, but the coalition of the lovers is screwing up the real results.  Sad.

Yes another conspiracy theorist.  The Conservatives are collapsing from within not from Elizabeth May.

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL so "whataboutism" is the best you could do  

Yes, It is perfectly normal for a premier to speak to another country about economic policy that directly impacts them.  Wh wouldn't it be? Canada cannot effectively negotiate while in the middle of an election and giving Canada the room to pick a leader who will then meet with trump is entirely a reasonable ask for the premier of a province 

I notice you have NO such criticism for Doug ford who launched retaliatory tariffs on his own authority and has provoked trump into greater anger towards Canada without any permission from other premiers or the feds. 

So not only are you discussing this dishonestly by not addressing the point, but you're also exposing your own personal hypocrisy. 

Well done. Not everyone can manage to fail two entirely different ways in the same post   

 

2 hours ago, PIK said:

The only reason the.libs are in it, is because the collapse of the other parties.  And you do have Ms May saying all parties need to come together to beat PP. The majority of voters want the cons, but the coalition of the lovers is screwing up the real results.  Sad.

 

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"DO IT FOR OMAR!!!!"

The Greens being all powerful have caused all this.  Ridiculous!

[Dave L]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I just want to hear you say how legitimate and unbiased you find the CBC to be. That's it. Put it in your own words. 

Are you scared? 

If you're so convinced of the CBC's legitimacy as a news agency then say that. Man up. 

You're exasperating, dude. You're so unlucky when it comes to thinking that it's hard not to mention it. 

 

I suppose you think the CBC does their own polling.  They don't do any polling.  They take all the other polls into account.  Its an average of all the reliable polls based on past performance.  Again a personal attack on me.  You are consistent, I will give you that.

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Dave L said:

The Greens being all powerful have caused all this.  Ridiculous!

That's your take on what I said?

OMG. 

1 minute ago, Dave L said:

I suppose you think the CBC does their own polling.  They don't do any polling.  They take all the other polls into account.  Its an average of all the reliable polls based on past performance.  Again a personal attack on me.  You are consistent, I will give you that.

I never asked you about polling, Dave. 

Tell me how legit you think the CBC is, we'll start from there. 

[Army Guy]

14 hours ago, Dave L said:

John A McDonald was a member of the Liberal Conservative Party.  Think about that for a second.  You have lost all credibility with your ignorance of the facts.  The first Conservative PM was Mackenzie Bowell.  Anyone can look it up but you preferred to believe falsehoods.

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The Liberal-Conservative Party was the formal name of the Conservative Party of Canada until 1917, and again from 1922 to 1938. Prior to 1970, candidates could run under any label they chose, and in many of Canada's early elections, there were both "Liberal-Conservative" and "Conservative"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald ( listed as a conservative and the first PM of Canada )

Put your cursor over the liberal conservative party name and it will tell you....

I have thought about it for a few seconds, and just because it has liberal in the name does not mean it is a liberal party....or had anything to do with the liberal name brand we know today...You just assumed that fact....You let me worry about my credibility....you should be worried about yours.

I glad you did a couple seconds of research, in your attempt to discredit me, but i'm afraid it is you that has been ignorant of the facts... Making Macdonald the first conservative PM...and your right anyone can look it up, and somehow you failed in that simple task

The list of things he accomplished as PM are pretty impressive....more impressive than most Liberal PMs ....

[Army Guy]

15 hours ago, Dave L said:

The Pharmacare and Dental Plans were already in the Liberals' play book and the NDP made it possible to accomplish.  The most important and notable  part was that the Conservatives voted against both.  Now is that right or what.

That depends on the national debt, which the liberals ran up to historical levels, both of these social programs added what to the national debt?  when most Canadians already have coverage from their employment insurance plans....The liberals stole those ideas from the NDP, and made them their own....but then again, axe the tax belongs to the liberals as well , according to carney, along with half of his platform ....

[Army Guy]

14 hours ago, Dave L said:

If Conservatives are really interested in who did what and by what party did it, go to this URL and it's all there.  The Accomplishments of the Conservative PMs is lacking any real substance.  If you want to keep doing this then VOTE CONSERVATIVE.  In particular look at Harpers accomplishments, and he endorsed PP.  List of prime ministers of Canada - Wikipedia

Yes the liberals in the last 8 plus years have produced a long list of scandals', ethic breaches, constantly lied about everything, nothing but a bunch of crooks , 10 of their top MP are under RCMP investigation for serious breaches of classified info and foreign interference.... it would be faster just to list the things they got right....nothing but crickets...after 9 years of lying liberals everyone needs a change...

[Barquentine]

49 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

when most Canadians already have coverage from their employment insurance plans

If that's the case, then only a few who need it will get coverage and it won't cost that much.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

 

 

The Greens being all powerful have caused all this.  Ridiculous!

????

What the hell does that even have to do with my post that you quoted.

Just because marijuana is legal now doesn't mean you should be abusing the privilege

1 hour ago, Dave L said:

I suppose you think the CBC does their own polling.  They don't do any polling.  They take all the other polls into account.  Its an average of all the reliable polls based on past performance.  Again a personal attack on me.  You are consistent, I will give you that.

The word polling did not appear in his post.

Your credibility here is nose diving pretty quick

[Barquentine]

In the last couple of days, Poilevre has been sounding more like Trump than ever:  "Defund the CBC" = "Defund PBS",  "three strikes you're out = "send American criminals to other countries". Keep journalists off the plane = Kick journalists out of the pool.  It's like they've got the same playbook.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

In the last couple of days, Poilevre has been sounding more like Trump than ever:  "Defund the CBC" = "Defund PBS",  "three strikes you're out = "send American criminals to other countries". Keep journalists off the plane = Kick journalists out of the pool.  It's like they've got the same playbook.

Are you retarded or just pretending?

He has been saying he would defend the CBC long before trump even managed to secure the nomination. It's something conservatives have been talking about since 2015. He's not sounding like trump, trump is sounding like him if anything

And three strikes you're out is again something that way predates trump

You're desperation is really starting to show. Honestly it's kind of disgusting, are you honestly saying there is nothing legitimate to criticize Poilievre about so you have to make up fake crap? He is so perfect that you couldn't come up with a single flaw in his policies or him himself so you're making crap up about how he sounds like trump when it's not true?

If that's the case why aren't you voting for the guy? It'd be so perfect you can't find anything legitimate wrong with him then why are you voting for carney? I can name a dozen things that are legitimately wrong with Carney

[Barquentine]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Are you retarded or just pretending?

He has been saying he would defend the CBC long before trump even managed to secure the nomination. It's something conservatives have been talking about since 2015. He's not sounding like trump, trump is sounding like him if anything

And three strikes you're out is again something that way predates trump

You are retarded or just pretending.

Reread my post. Take your time. Use your finger to help understand the big words. On second thought don't use your finger - we don't know where that's been.

I didn't say those things are new ( I mean, it's PeePee we're talking about. Nothing new to see here.) I said those are the things they're both saying and doing now. They remind me of this pair from Looney Tunes :

 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

You are retarded or just pretending.

soooo.... you're retarded then.  Good to know  I'll try to talk more slowly to you.

 

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Reread my post. Take your time. Use your finger to help understand the big words. On second thought don't use your finger - we don't know where that's been.

Ahhh yes your usual admission when you know it's wrong  

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I didn't say those things are new ( I mean, it's PeePee we're talking about. Nothing new to see her

You said they were trump's lines. 

And that was a lie. As I have pointed out all of those lines existed long before trump came along and he's been saying most of them long before trump came along. 

It's like claiming any common phrase that everybody says is a trump line because trump once said it 

So yeah you're attributing these to trump. And they're not. Which makes you a liar. And you tried to double down on it when it was pointed out to you which makes you an unusually stupid liar  

Nice try kiddo. I'm sure you're kind of logic is highly effective in kindergarten but you'll have to step up your game here

[Dave L]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

You are retarded or just pretending.

Reread my post. Take your time. Use your finger to help understand the big words. On second thought don't use your finger - we don't know where that's been.

I didn't say those things are new ( I mean, it's PeePee we're talking about. Nothing new to see here.) I said those are the things they're both saying and doing now. They remind me of this pair from Looney Tunes :

 

There is no need to talk to anyone in that manner.  Unexpectable.

[Dave L]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

In the last couple of days, Poilevre has been sounding more like Trump than ever:  "Defund the CBC" = "Defund PBS",  "three strikes you're out = "send American criminals to other countries". Keep journalists off the plane = Kick journalists out of the pool.  It's like they've got the same playbook.

I couldn't agree more.  Now he is planning to limit what seniors can do in the guise of protecting them from scams.  Do for everyone or don't do it at all.  Promising to use the Notwithstanding clause to limit the rights of criminals.  A very serious precedent.  Who and what is next.  If it sounds like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck and looks like a duck, its a duck.

[Dave L]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

????

What the hell does that even have to do with my post that you quoted.

Just because marijuana is legal now doesn't mean you should be abusing the privilege

The word polling did not appear in his post.

Your credibility here is nose diving pretty quick

I never said it did but the title of the topic is

 

2 hours ago, Army Guy said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Canada

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald ( listed as a conservative and the first PM of Canada )

Put your cursor over the liberal conservative party name and it will tell you....

I have thought about it for a few seconds, and just because it has liberal in the name does not mean it is a liberal party....or had anything to do with the liberal name brand we know today...You just assumed that fact....You let me worry about my credibility....you should be worried about yours.

I glad you did a couple seconds of research, in your attempt to discredit me, but i'm afraid it is you that has been ignorant of the facts... Making Macdonald the first conservative PM...and your right anyone can look it up, and somehow you failed in that simple task

The list of things he accomplished as PM are pretty impressive....more impressive than most Liberal PMs ....

You discredit yourself by what you say.  You don't need any help in that matter.

 

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's your take on what I said?

OMG. 

I never asked you about polling, Dave. 

Tell me how legit you think the CBC is, we'll start from there. 

Have you forgotten what the title of this is, let me alliterate for you.  Conservatives have taken the lead in the polls.  Which is another misinformation from the right.  Polls the whole topic is about the polls.

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, Dave L said:

Have you forgotten what the title of this is, let me alliterate for you.  Conservatives have taken the lead in the polls.  Which is another misinformation from the right.  Polls the whole topic is about the polls.

 

If you were alliterating, you'd say conservatives conquest in current canvas!

[Dave L]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Are you retarded or just pretending?

He has been saying he would defend the CBC long before trump even managed to secure the nomination. It's something conservatives have been talking about since 2015. He's not sounding like trump, trump is sounding like him if anything

And three strikes you're out is again something that way predates trump

You're desperation is really starting to show. Honestly it's kind of disgusting, are you honestly saying there is nothing legitimate to criticize Poilievre about so you have to make up fake crap? He is so perfect that you couldn't come up with a single flaw in his policies or him himself so you're making crap up about how he sounds like trump when it's not true?

If that's the case why aren't you voting for the guy? It'd be so perfect you can't find anything legitimate wrong with him then why are you voting for carney? I can name a dozen things that are legitimately wrong with Carney

I am positive that with your negative attitude you could probably come up with 50 things wrong with Carney.  But they would be like your other comments, worthless.