blackbird Posted Tuesday at 05:59 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 05:59 PM (edited) Many of us have been saying this all along, but usually ignored by the Liberals and left. Canada is in a crisis with the average person unable to afford a home or the high rents, tent cities and homeless people in every town and city, failing health care system, increasing numbers of people relying on food banks, and a soft-on-crime justice system that almost all the time catches and releases dangerous offenders who then go out to stab someone. "For nine years, Canada has been on the wrong track. We’ve pushed away investment through excessive regulation, long approval timelines, and an unpredictable policy environment. We’ve discouraged risk-takers and entrepreneurs. We’ve punished the industries that built our economy — energy, mining, agriculture, and manufacturing — under the banner of climate virtue and political optics." KLEIN: We’ve got bigger problems than Donald Trump So why are some former conservative campaign advisers talking about changing the focus of the campaign to Trump? What is there to say about Trump? Most politicians know what we have to do. Counter tariffs where sensible and build our economy back. The disastrous past nine years is still the main problem in Canada. It appears Liberals and media are using Trump for talking points. That's all it is. Carney just said resource projects can only proceed if they have free and informed consent of FNs. There is the same old problem. No federal leadership. Rather bending over to a small handful of radical FNs, environmentalists, and leftists who oppose the progress and prosperity of Canada. This proves nothing would change under Carney. Edited yesterday at 02:35 PM by blackbird 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 06:11 PM (edited) 34 minutes ago, blackbird said: ignored by the Liberals and left Not ignored. We just disagree. That’s what elections are for; to see whose vision for the country gets to be implemented. Your favoured vision has been a losing one. My favoured vision has also been a losing one, since I never voted Liberal. Although, I think some of the legislation has been better than what the Conservatives would have passed, overall. Carney is way too conservative for me, but I vote on who I think will best represent my riding. Party politics don’t really matter to me as much as the candidate. Edited Tuesday at 06:33 PM by TreeBeard Quote
eyeball Posted Tuesday at 10:38 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 10:38 PM 4 hours ago, blackbird said: What is there to say about Trump? The disastrous past nine years is still the main problem in Canada. It's like this and often much worse everywhere you go on the planet now. And now Trump wants to hose everything down with gasoline and throw a match at it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 02:37 PM 20 hours ago, TreeBeard said: That’s what elections are for; to see wWhy dhose vision for the country gets to be implemented. Your favoured vision has been a losing one. What are you hiding for? Why don't you state clearly in a couple sentences what your vision is and why you disagree with the Conservative's vision? Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 03:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 03:07 PM 28 minutes ago, blackbird said: What are you hiding for? Why don't you state clearly in a couple sentences what your vision is and why you disagree with the Conservative's vision? My vision is a clean environment. Quote
blackbird Posted yesterday at 03:59 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 03:59 PM (edited) 54 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: My vision is a clean environment. Is that it? What about eliminating the barriers to resource development and creating a large number of good-paying jobs, building a massive number of affordable homes, apartments, and stopping all the terrible crime? Seems to me the environment is fairly clean in this vast country and there are many regulations protecting it now. The oil and gas industry is a potentially a huge high paying industry that could really contribute a lot of good-paying jobs and taxes for health care and building the military, etc. But the liberals/NDP are blocking the building of pipelines and preventing the extraction of vast resources underground of oil and gas. Why don't you want to help build Canada and prosperity? If the economy is made to boom, there will be lots of tax money to provide good health care and other services. Do you really think my vision is a losing one? Edited yesterday at 04:02 PM by blackbird Quote
CdnFox Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:02 PM 17 hours ago, eyeball said: It's like this and often much worse everywhere you go on the planet now. No it isn't. And what kind of loser do you have to be to try and find the lowest common denominator and set that as your bar? All of those things could be considerably better in Canada. They don't need to be that bad at all. They are that bad because of people like you. And that really does need to change Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 04:03 PM Report Posted yesterday at 04:03 PM 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: Is that it? Yes, that’s it. Without that, we leave nothing but a mess for future generations to pay to clean up. Quote
blackbird Posted yesterday at 05:08 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 05:08 PM 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Yes, that’s it. Without that, we leave nothing but a mess for future generations to pay to clean up. You are obviously obsessed with the wrong thing. The environment is not going to be worse under the Conservatives. There are countless laws and processes that already protect the environment. The attacks against the energy industry is preventing Canada from developing its full potential and keeping Canada crippled. You ignored the need to develop our economy and stop the crime. Sad. You wrongly believe the environment is somehow in great danger. That is a totally false belief. There are serious issues to do with the economy that Canada needs to deal with. However, you're free to believe what you want. Get out your Greta costume and hit the streets. Quote
eyeball Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:34 PM 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: No it isn't. And what kind of loser do you have to be to try and find the lowest common denominator and set that as your bar? You're the one who's forever whining we're already at the lowest setting. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: All of those things could be considerably better in Canada. They don't need to be that bad at all. Get a grip, things are better here. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: They are that bad because of people like you. And that really does need to change Naw, that's just an aspect you created of me that you can't get out of your silly head. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 05:48 PM Report Posted yesterday at 05:48 PM 31 minutes ago, blackbird said: You are obviously obsessed with the wrong thing. Obsessed? It’s not a religion. It’s only common sense to have a clean environment. 32 minutes ago, blackbird said: The environment is not going to be worse under the Conservatives. There are countless laws and processes that already protect the environment. Did you know the last Con government changed laws to allow more environmental destruction? 37 minutes ago, blackbird said: The attacks against the energy industry What attack? Is this just hyperbole? 38 minutes ago, blackbird said: You wrongly believe the environment is somehow in great danger. That is a totally false belief. I will trust what the scientific experts say about the environment. The tobacco companies used to tell us smoking was good for us. Should we have ignored medical experts about their findings that smoking is bad for your health? Quote
blackbird Posted yesterday at 05:56 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 05:56 PM 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: 40 minutes ago, blackbird said: The attacks against the energy industry What attack? Is this just hyperbole? Where have you been? You must have had your head in the sand. The Trudeau Liberals have blocked the building of pipelines, put caps on the energy industry, put carbon taxes on it, and carbon tax on the people. All those things did nothing to affect the climate or the environment. All it did was kill thousands of energy industry and spin off jobs. Reduced the tax income for government and increased the national debt and cost of living for everyone. 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Did you know the last Con government changed laws to allow more environmental destruction? What specific laws are you talking about? It certainly hasn't been in the news. Heard no such thing. The Conservative government might have changed some laws that shouldn't have been there. They would have done that to restore natural resource development. If you are against natural resource development or against the energy industry, you are wrecking Canada. Where do you think most of the good-paying jobs come from? They are in the natural resource field. Quote
blackbird Posted yesterday at 06:00 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 06:00 PM 8 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Obsessed? It’s not a religion. It’s only common sense to have a clean environment. If it is extreme environmentalism, it is a religion. It's called Mother Earth worship. God created man and gave him dominion over the environment. Not to sacrifice man on the alter of environmentalism as environmentalists want to do. You can't sacrifice our resource industries to try to save the planet. It won't save anything and only destroy our economy and way of life. Do you want to make Canada a third world country? Canada has a lot of rich natural resources. We can't compete very well in manufacturing because many countries manufacture goods and they pay very low wages and benefits. Out wealth is in the natural resources. That is where we can make prosperity for Canadians. Quote
eyeball Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:08 PM 15 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I will trust what the scientific experts say about the environment. The tobacco companies used to tell us smoking was good for us. Should we have ignored medical experts about their findings that smoking is bad for your health? I can still recall mom leaving an ashtray out for the doctor's house calls. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted yesterday at 06:27 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:27 PM 8 minutes ago, blackbird said: Canada has a lot of rich natural resources. We can't compete very well in manufacturing because many countries manufacture goods and they pay very low wages and benefits. Out wealth is in the natural resources. That is where we can make prosperity for Canadians. Our country's real advantage is that we still have the resources and time to develop a sustainable longer-term slower-growth economy based on conservation. The last thing we need is a flash-in-the-pan economic boom based on unleashing everything. Stripping, cutting, pumping and digging everything up to simply ship it out for others to prosper from is just plain nuts. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
suds Posted yesterday at 06:56 PM Report Posted yesterday at 06:56 PM 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: My vision is a clean environment. So is mine, but that's only part of it. We also need a functioning economy. And if we hope to get anywhere close to net-zero by 2050 we're going to need a pile of clean energy from somewhere and fast, or things start to shut down. The energy and trade east/west corridor alone isn't the answer but it's a start to us getting back on the right track. Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 07:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:07 PM 1 hour ago, blackbird said: The Trudeau Liberals have blocked the building of pipelines, This lie tells me all I need to know about you. The government bought Trans Mountain pipeline. 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You can't sacrifice our resource industries to try to save the planet. This is the lie that polluting companies have told us for a century. Quote
blackbird Posted yesterday at 07:21 PM Author Report Posted yesterday at 07:21 PM (edited) 23 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: 1 hour ago, blackbird said: The Trudeau Liberals have blocked the building of pipelines, This lie tells me all I need to know about you. The government bought Trans Mountain pipeline. You are the one lying. You conveniently ignore the legislation Trudeau brought in called C69 in 2017. This effectively killed any new pipelines. Trudeau killed the Energy East pipeline and the Northern Gateway pipeline which would have carried oil from Alberta to Kitimat, BC. to ship overseas. Trudeau also put a tanker ban on the BC north coast. They obviously killed pipelines and were working to kill the oil and gas industry in Canada. The fact you support that is the stupidest thing in the world. They only bought Trans Mountain Pipeline because that already existed and was being expanded. It was the only pipeline to the west coast and supplied fuel to B.C. The Liberals had no choice on that one. But they blocked and killed everything else. Stop being a traitor to Canada. Maybe you are posting from China or the middle east eh? Who knows. Edited yesterday at 07:30 PM by blackbird Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:35 PM 12 minutes ago, blackbird said: kill the oil and gas industry in Canada. Why are we producing more now than we ever have? Quote
WestCanMan Posted yesterday at 07:39 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:39 PM On 4/1/2025 at 10:59 AM, blackbird said: Many of us have been saying this all along, but usually ignored by the Liberals and left. Canada is in a crisis with the average person unable to afford a home or the high rents, tent cities and homeless people in every town and city, failing health care system, increasing numbers of people relying on food banks, and a soft-on-crime justice system that almost all the time catches and releases dangerous offenders who then go out to stab someone. "For nine years, Canada has been on the wrong track. We’ve pushed away investment through excessive regulation, long approval timelines, and an unpredictable policy environment. We’ve discouraged risk-takers and entrepreneurs. We’ve punished the industries that built our economy — energy, mining, agriculture, and manufacturing — under the banner of climate virtue and political optics." 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Legato Posted yesterday at 07:46 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:46 PM 38 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: This lie tells me all I need to know about you. The government bought Trans Mountain pipeline. This is the lie that polluting companies have told us for a century. Mark Carney on Tuesday explicitly stated the Liberals will not repeal their controversial Bill C-69, legislation that prevents new pipelines being built. https://energynow.ca/2025/04/more-of-the-same-mark-carney-admits-he-will-not-repeal-the-liberals-bill-c-69-the-no-pipelines-bill/ Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 07:55 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:55 PM 8 minutes ago, Legato said: Mark Carney on Tuesday explicitly stated the Liberals will not repeal their controversial Bill C-69, legislation that prevents new pipelines being built. https://energynow.ca/2025/04/more-of-the-same-mark-carney-admits-he-will-not-repeal-the-liberals-bill-c-69-the-no-pipelines-bill/ Good. How come we are producing more oil than ever if this bill supposedly killed the industry? Quote
Legato Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM Report Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: Good. How come we are producing more oil than ever if this bill supposedly killed the industry? Sigh... It's not about production. How come you dismiss that. Quote
TreeBeard Posted yesterday at 08:02 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:02 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, Legato said: Sigh... It's not about production. How come you dismiss that. 😂 “Trudeau is killing the oil industry” So explain how he’s doing that if we’re producing more oil than ever. Seems you should be praising Trudeau overseeing the biggest oil boom in Canadian history. He’s killing the industry, but the industry is digging more oil than ever. Mental gymnastics! Edited yesterday at 08:03 PM by TreeBeard Quote
Legato Posted yesterday at 08:07 PM Report Posted yesterday at 08:07 PM 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: 😂 “Trudeau is killing the oil industry” So explain how he’s doing that if we’re producing more oil than ever. Seems you should be praising Trudeau overseeing the biggest oil boom in Canadian history. He’s killing the industry, but the industry is digging more oil than ever. Mental gymnastics! What part of "it's not about production" do you not understand? 1 Quote
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