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Remember, this is about upholding immigration law, not bending it to the woke agenda. 

"The White House blasted "activist" federal judges and called on the U.S. Supreme Court to rein them in on Wednesday as President Donald Trump and his allies escalated their attacks against judges who have ruled against his administration.

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters it was incumbent upon the Supreme Court to take action against judges who "are acting erroneously."

"We have judges who are acting as partisan activists from the bench. They are trying to dictate policy from the president of the United States. They are trying to clearly slow walk this administration's agenda, and it's unacceptable," she said."

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/trump-administration-supreme-court-donald-trump/2025/03/19/id/1203563/

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4 minutes ago, West said:

It's wild. Record number of inductions. Whacky judges thinking they can overstep and undermine the will of the voters. 

America has had its fill of judicial activism. It's time to kick these freaks off the bench. 

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15 minutes ago, West said:

It's wild. Record number of inductions. Whacky judges thinking they can overstep and undermine the will of the voters. 

^Whacky posters believing their OPINION of "overstep" means something.

When you keep PROVING you don't understand the US Justice system.

Your LEGAL OPINION means NOTHING.

Nor does Trump's WHINING about judges opposing HIS AGENDA.

He just KEEPS VIOLATING The Impoundment Control Act. One would think he would learn about that after being IMPEACHED for violating it.

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21 minutes ago, West said:

It's wild. Record number of inductions. Whacky judges thinking they can overstep and undermine the will of the voters. 

You very obviously have no idea how America works. Not the faintest clue.

The entire farking purpose of a constitutional system (rather than a pure democracy or autocracy) is to create laws more durable than the whims of one election. That the whole point of this "nation of laws" business. The POTUS can set whatever goals they want, but they have to follow the law to pursue them. This is what the laws and courts are for, to prevent the tyranny of a tyrant or the tyranny of the majority.

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9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

^Whacky posters believing their OPINION of "overstep" means something.

When you keep PROVING you don't understand the US Justice system.

Your LEGAL OPINION means NOTHING.

Nor does Trump's WHINING about judges opposing HIS AGENDA.

He just KEEPS VIOLATING The Impoundment Control Act. One would think he would learn about that after being IMPEACHED for violating it.

Uh-huh. Notwithstanding the left's continual avoidance of 1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325. 

Those "judges" are activists, and they've got to go. They actually need to be thrown in prison.

Traitors like you belong in prison as well. 

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10 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You very obviously have no idea how America works. Not the faintest clue.

The entire farking purpose of a constitutional system (rather than a pure democracy or autocracy) is to create laws more durable than the whims of one election. That the whole point of this "nation of laws" business. The POTUS can set whatever goals they want, but they have to follow the law to pursue them. This is what the laws and courts are for, to prevent the tyranny of a tyrant or the tyranny of the majority.

No, laws are to be upheld, not twisted to fit the left's agenda. 

1911. 8 U.S.C. 1325. is quite clear on border crossings, yet somehow, you perverts always try to sidestep it. I wonder why? 

 

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The problem here is that many US judges (Canadian ones too for that matter) have engaged in huge amounts of judicial activism. An easy one to remember was the judges in numerous states that tried to illegally bar trump's name from being on the ballot.

So now when trump claims that something is judicial activism whether it is or it isn't it is extremely easy for the public to believe that it is. They already know that this happens all the time, so how hard is it to believe that that's what's happening here.

As I said at the time and have repeated often since, the democrats were warned repetitively that eroding public confidence in the law and legal system would backfire on them tremendously and that they shouldn't do it. But the democrats insisted that they should and the supporters here also backed at 100%

And this is the result. At least trump isn't hiding that he's asking for these people to be reigned in

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The problem here is that many US judges (Canadian ones too for that matter) have engaged in huge amounts of judicial activism. An easy one to remember was the judges in numerous states that tried to illegally bar trump's name from being on the ballot.

So now when trump claims that something is judicial activism whether it is or it isn't it is extremely easy for the public to believe that it is. They already know that this happens all the time, so how hard is it to believe that that's what's happening here.

As I said at the time and have repeated often since, the democrats were warned repetitively that eroding public confidence in the law and legal system would backfire on them tremendously and that they shouldn't do it. But the democrats insisted that they should and the supporters here also backed at 100%

And this is the result. At least trump isn't hiding that he's asking for these people to be reigned in

Trump has nothing to hide. He should be fighting these people every inch of the way.  

They act as if rule of law is activated AFTER migrants enter the country illegally; as if borders are just lines on maps and that's it. 

They really need to be removed from their benches. 

 

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The cry is that it is always a Constitutional Crisis the moment Trump criticizes having to follow a court order... but never when these left wing activist judges are clearly overstepping their power and jurisdiction.

 

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44 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Trump has nothing to hide. He should be fighting these people every inch of the way.  

 

Every politician has to be concerned about optics to a degree. If the people genuinely get mad at trump they can vote in democrats in the upcoming midterms who will inevitably impeach him and throw him out of office. That's a very real thing that could happen. So he can't just do whatever he wants haphazardly.

At the same time I think there's a lot of Intolerance and anger towards judges that are perceived to be activists rather than legalist and trump has made this claim in the past and been proven by the supreme court to be correct, so that lends a lot of credibility to him when he says these things

This is an age-old problem. It Harkens back to the old roman adage of who will guard these guardians. The courts are there to prevent the government from abusing its power on the citizenry, but who is there to prevent the courts from abusing its power on the government or the citizenry?

I think trump has to be cautious not to be seen as being out of control but I think he's going to get a lot of leeway from a lot of people who watched judges try and take his name off the ballot who believe that his criminal trial was completely faked up, and who believed that his treatment with the whole civil fraud issue was abominable and feel that the courts have been weaponized against the democrats political opponents.

Which is exactly what I and many others predicted would happen when all of that was going on. As long as he doesn't go too far he's probably going to get away with a lot

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Every politician has to be concerned about optics to a degree. If the people genuinely get mad at trump they can vote in democrats in the upcoming midterms who will inevitably impeach him and throw him out of office. That's a very real thing that could happen. So he can't just do whatever he wants haphazardly.

At the same time I think there's a lot of Intolerance and anger towards judges that are perceived to be activists rather than legalist and trump has made this claim in the past and been proven by the supreme court to be correct, so that lends a lot of credibility to him when he says these things

This is an age-old problem. It Harkens back to the old roman adage of who will guard these guardians. The courts are there to prevent the government from abusing its power on the citizenry, but who is there to prevent the courts from abusing its power on the government or the citizenry?

I think trump has to be cautious not to be seen as being out of control but I think he's going to get a lot of leeway from a lot of people who watched judges try and take his name off the ballot who believe that his criminal trial was completely faked up, and who believed that his treatment with the whole civil fraud issue was abominable and feel that the courts have been weaponized against the democrats political opponents.

Which is exactly what I and many others predicted would happen when all of that was going on. As long as he doesn't go too far he's probably going to get away with a lot

You've got a really good point about Trump going too far - it's his achilles - but I think he's doing more good than harm at this point. 

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4 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You've got a really good point about Trump going too far - it's his achilles - but I think he's doing more good than harm at this point. 

While he's slightly down in the opinion polls I see no sign of a collapse at this moment. But it's something he will want to keep in mind

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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8 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And CdnFox tells me its the libs that do the demonizing!

It is. The fact that the people you demonize occasionally get mad and yell back at you doesn't change that :) Go read one of Herbie's posts if you want to laugh

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It is. The fact that the people you demonize occasionally get mad and yell back at you doesn't change that :) Go read one of Herbie's posts if you want to laugh

Too late. Already laughing.

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39 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And CdnFox tells me its the libs that do the demonizing!

It's true. Libs are always demonizing good citizens. It's why we vote your asses out of office. ;) 

 

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1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Too late. Already laughing.

LOL ok, i'll admit, well played  :) 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

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5 hours ago, Hodad said:

You very obviously have no idea how America works. Not the faintest clue.

The entire farking purpose of a constitutional system (rather than a pure democracy or autocracy) is to create laws more durable than the whims of one election. That the whole point of this "nation of laws" business. The POTUS can set whatever goals they want, but they have to follow the law to pursue them. This is what the laws and courts are for, to prevent the tyranny of a tyrant or the tyranny of the majority.

then why are US Senators and former state attorney generals basically saying the same thing? 

 

5 hours ago, robosmith said:

^Whacky posters believing their OPINION of "overstep" means something.

When you keep PROVING you don't understand the US Justice system.

Your LEGAL OPINION means NOTHING.

Nor does Trump's WHINING about judges opposing HIS AGENDA.

He just KEEPS VIOLATING The Impoundment Control Act. One would think he would learn about that after being IMPEACHED for violating it.

 

It's not my legal opinion dummy. I only REACT to what Senators (and former state attorney general) is saying 

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28 minutes ago, West said:

then why are US Senators and former state attorney generals basically saying the same thing? 

 

 

It's not my legal opinion dummy. I only REACT to what Senators (and former state attorney general) is saying 

Josh Hawley is a ball-licking crap sack with no spine or conscience whatsoever. But setting that aside, just do the math. No president has EVER attempted faster or more widespread legally questionable (when not outright illegal) actions. What is happening now is wildly unprecedented. Of course those things are going to result in an equally large spike in injunctions. Action and reaction scale together. 

It's not a sudden outbreak of judges gone wild. It's just courts doing business as usual, dealing with a massive uptick in cases commensurate with Trump's actions.

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12 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Josh Hawley is a ball-licking crap sack with no spine or conscience whatsoever. But setting that aside, just do the math. No president has EVER attempted faster or more widespread legally questionable (when not outright illegal) actions. What is happening now is wildly unprecedented. Of course those things are going to result in an equally large spike in injunctions. Action and reaction scale together. 

It's not a sudden outbreak of judges gone wild. It's just courts doing business as usual, dealing with a massive uptick in cases commensurate with Trump's actions.

Lol.. considering the Obama administration took questionable FISA warrants out on Trump I would say you are stretching 

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2 hours ago, West said:

Lol.. considering the Obama administration took questionable FISA warrants out on Trump I would say you are stretching 

That's a complete non sequitur (nothing whatsoever to do with executive actions and injunctions) and there was never FISA warrant for Trump.

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