Barquentine Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 https://theconversation.com/how-trump-could-try-to-stay-in-power-after-his-second-term-ends-246722 He's gonna try. And Lindsey graham will cheer him on. Putin, Xi Jinping, now Trump. Quote
myata Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 2 hours ago, ironstone said: A double standard? It depends on an in-depth analysis of the issue. Perhaps he was able to find other ways that didn't contradict the law? It merits a good in depth analysis but probably in another topic. Should it be found that he openly defied a standing order of a court as in this case, it would certainly be a matter of concern. So on the balance: Trump's administration openly defied a standing court order. This is a fact now, and a precedent in the erosion of justice. Biden's acts and actions need further analysis specifically in understanding: has he defied a standing order? Or changed his policies in a way that complies with the law? This can be an essential difference. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
robosmith Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 11 hours ago, myata said: Judiciary, on its own will not stand the onslaught and would fold, opening a clear path to dictatorship. America doesn't have two years. Those were fairy tales by the scared, fools and/or corrupted. Democrat leadership failed to organize the resistance and is fading away. Mass citizen action is the only mean to halt the slide into tyranny; and it has to happen now. It may just be the final warning. What is your plan? Mass rioting and destruction daring Trump to commit genocide? Quote
User Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 59 minutes ago, myata said: Trump's administration openly defied a standing court order. This is a fact now, and a precedent in the erosion of justice. False. The only fact here is that you refuse to provide any specifics or actual arguments beyond baseless assertions. Quote
myata Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 11 hours ago, robosmith said: What is your plan? Mass rioting What an amazingly succinct illustration of the very core of the problem. The corruption has set in, and all healthy what still remains is weak and dumbfounded. What do we do? Where to run, who will help/save now? Bullsh*t. Just bull. Evolution doesn't work this way, it couldn't care less about excuses, all of them and to be zillions power. You have to face the challenge, get over it and overcome it. This is how it's done, but you forgot. No ways no squeaks and waving hands, nothing else works. Get over or fail those are the choices, in the evolution not squeaking and screaming. Nobody's listening std, but some are sure laughing. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Hodad Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 15 hours ago, ironstone said: A double standard? https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/17/remember-when-biden-bragged-about-defying-scotus-and-corporate-media-shrugged/ Former President Joe Biden openly admitted to defying the Supreme Court multiple times during his administration — and the media barely blinked. But when President Donald Trump challenges a lower court ruling by an activist judge, the media frames it as a “constitutional crisis.” The glaring double standard isn’t accidental; it’s part of a calculated effort by the left-wing corporate media to peddle the phony narrative that Trump is an authoritarian threat. Biden didn’t just defy the Supreme Court’s 2023 ruling on student debt — he bragged about it. “I promised to ease student debt for millions of folks. The Supreme Court blocked me, but it didn’t stop me,” Biden posted on X. “The Supreme Court tried to block me from relieving student debt. But they didn’t stop me.” Biden doubled down months later. “I’m going to keep going.” By Biden’s own admission, he was defying the Supreme Court. But the propaganda press’ response was nothing more than a shrug. Axios’ Sareen Habeshian downplayed the Supreme Court’s ruling as a mere “setback,” noting that Biden was able to provide “relief” by “circumventing the need for Congressional or court approval.” CNN’s Katie Lobosco reported how Biden “found ways” to continue canceling “student loan debt despite Supreme Court ruling.” This is another case where it's hard to tell if you are being disingenuous, or whether you really don't know how any of this works. The SCOTUS didn't rule on the virtue of an objective. Rather, they rule on the legality of the means of execution. Biden didn't "defy" or disregard their ruling, he applied other legal actions as a result of their ruling. Your argument is silly and self defeating. If he had defied the court he wouldn't have needed to find alternative ways to pursue his objective. Q.E.D. 1 Quote
User Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Hodad said: This is another case where it's hard to tell if you are being disingenuous, or whether you really don't know how any of this works. The SCOTUS didn't rule on the virtue of an objective. Rather, they rule on the legality of the means of execution. Biden didn't "defy" or disregard their ruling, he applied other legal actions as a result of their ruling. Your argument is silly and self defeating. If he had defied the court he wouldn't have needed to find alternative ways to pursue his objective. Q.E.D. Except, he did defy them, because he attempt to circumvent them was also ruled against. His plan b was abandoned as he was failing in the courts again. Pushing one obviously illegal debt forgiveness plan to immediately push another obviously illegal plan only to abandon it because it was bogged down in legal fights... is hardly anything to brag about Biden being some virtuous law abiding President. No, he kept pushing something illegal. 2 hours ago, myata said: What an amazingly succinct illustration of the very core of the problem. The corruption has set in, and all healthy what still remains is weak and dumbfounded. What do we do? Where to run, who will help/save now? Bullsh*t. Just bull. Evolution doesn't work this way, it couldn't care less about excuses, all of them and to be zillions power. You have to face the challenge, get over it and overcome it. This is how it's done, but you forgot. No ways no squeaks and waving hands, nothing else works. Get over or fail those are the choices, in the evolution not squeaking and screaming. Nobody's listening std, but some are sure laughing. The end is near! The end is near! Quote
robosmith Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 3 hours ago, Hodad said: This is another case where it's hard to tell if you are being disingenuous, or whether you really don't know how any of this works. The SCOTUS didn't rule on the virtue of an objective. Rather, they rule on the legality of the means of execution. Biden didn't "defy" or disregard their ruling, he applied other legal actions as a result of their ruling. Your argument is silly and self defeating. If he had defied the court he wouldn't have needed to find alternative ways to pursue his objective. Q.E.D. It is CLEAR that Canucks are profoundly IGNORANT about many areas of US governance. In part because the right wingers still believe FOS LIES. 🤮 1 Quote
myata Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 Several episodes today confirming factually that Maga/Republican hybrid cult has began an all-out assault on the independent judiciary. Where the rule of law is gone, what "elections"? It can be the last, final call to wake up. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 28 minutes ago, myata said: Several episodes today confirming factually that Maga/Republican hybrid cult has began an all-out assault on the independent judiciary. Where the rule of law is gone, what "elections"? It can be the last, final call to wake up. Like what? What episodes and how did the confirm this? Once again, you offer no substance. Quote
myata Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 Laws can be ignored with impunity. Checks are meaningless. The American Constitutional Republic is dead - done for. The fact and the precedent. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
CdnFox Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 On 3/17/2025 at 6:09 AM, User said: Your posts are little more than the crazed ramblings of a roadside doomsday preacher. You can't actually see it on the internet but he's actually naked and wearing nothing but a placard that says "the end is nigh" 3 hours ago, myata said: Several episodes today confirming factually that Maga/Republican hybrid cult has began an all-out assault on the independent judiciary. Where the rule of law is gone, what "elections"? It can be the last, final call to wake up. By 'episodes' you mean when the voices talk to you right? 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 1 hour ago, myata said: Laws can be ignored with impunity. Checks are meaningless. The American Constitutional Republic is dead - done for. The fact and the precedent. What are you talking about? Again, nothing of substance. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 11 hours ago, robosmith said: The SCOTUS didn't rule on the virtue of an objective. Rather, they rule on the legality of the means of execution. And with Doge, as far as I can see, that's all the judges are doing, which is their role, but Jabba the Hutt and his Maga miscreants can't understand this. 1 Quote
myata Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 "When...". The paradise is always somewhere in the hazy future, but now you have to let go of anything you kept sound and normal. This is how it worked. It's in the books. There are no naives this time around. This can very well be the last line, and warning. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Nationalist Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 What I find concerning, is the Libbie willingness to use violence in order to get their way. On 3/17/2025 at 8:57 AM, myata said: Mass citizen action is the only mean to halt the slide into tyranny; and it has to happen now. And provide excuses for their craving for violent revolution. On 3/17/2025 at 11:01 AM, Aristides said: The last barrier to dictatorship is being dismantled and it is being done without a peep from the nation that continually bragged about its constitution and checks. All a myth. @Michael Hardner - Hey Mike. Is this the endgame of the culture war? A real war started by the Libbies? The population put up with surrenders, draconian Rona rules, the POTUS inviting an invasion through the borders, the war on fuel and the resulting inflation, the lies and deception. Trump wins the Whitehouse handily, begins to enact his promised agenda, and the Libbies get violent. All rather...educational...eh Mike? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 hour ago, myata said: "When...". The paradise is always somewhere in the hazy future, but now you have to let go of anything you kept sound and normal. This is how it worked. It's in the books. There are no naives this time around. This can very well be the last line, and warning. No, this is the last last last line, really this time, it really is the last line! 1 Quote
Deluge Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 On 3/17/2025 at 7:50 AM, myata said: If Americans watch passively the demise of judicial independence, they can as well say farewell to their democracy, flawed and imperfect as it was. There are no such miracles in the entire universe. This may just be the final call. Judges want illegal aliens IN, not OUT. This is why Trump wants SCOTUS to step in. Quote
myata Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 This is an all-out assault on the rule of law. It's is not that they don't understand it, no. They will consciously and deliberately remove and dismantle all that stands in the way of an absolute, uncontested rule. Democrat leaders are beyond naive - their helpless complacency borders on plain, senile dementia, insanity. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 17 minutes ago, myata said: This is an all-out assault on the rule of law. It's is not that they don't understand it, no. They will consciously and deliberately remove and dismantle all that stands in the way of an absolute, uncontested rule. Democrat leaders are beyond naive - their helpless complacency borders on plain, senile dementia, insanity. The end is near! The end is near! Quote
CdnFox Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 1 hour ago, myata said: This is an all-out assault on the rule of law. It's is not that they don't understand it, no. They will consciously and deliberately remove and dismantle all that stands in the way of an absolute, uncontested rule. Democrat leaders are beyond naive - their helpless complacency borders on plain, senile dementia, insanity. The problem is the rule of law was defeated under the democrats and no longer really exists. So this isn't an assault on the rule of law, this is just stepping over its dead body Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
reason10 Posted March 20 Report Posted March 20 On 3/17/2025 at 8:57 AM, myata said: Judiciary, on its own will not stand the onslaught and would fold, opening a clear path to dictatorship. America doesn't have two years. Those were fairy tales by the scared, fools and/or corrupted. Democrat leadership failed to organize the resistance and is fading away. Mass citizen action is the only mean to halt the slide into tyranny; and it has to happen now. It may just be the final warning. Let's see. President Trump took a GANG of illegal aliens WHO WERE COMMITTING CRIMES IN THIS COUNTRY. He ordered them DEPORTED, which by law they are SUPPOSED TO BE. And the plane was outside of US airspace, headed to the El Salvador prison that those animals deserved. A judge tries to inferfere with US Foreign Policy, which is what Trump's actions amounted to. I agree there is a dictatorship on the horizon. It's coming from judges. 1 Quote
myata Posted March 20 Author Report Posted March 20 It's not that cultists wouldn't understand the notion of law, no. They really, genuinely want to get rid of it for them it's an obstacle, "nasty" unnecessary and troublesome thing. They want to make the law whatever their idol says today, and then tomorrow. This is what they want and work toward and it's as simple as that. You don't have two years. If everyone sits and waits patiently they'll bring it under in months. This is exactly what Germans did in 1933. 1 Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
User Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 51 minutes ago, myata said: It's not that cultists wouldn't understand the notion of law, no. They really, genuinely want to get rid of it for them it's an obstacle, "nasty" unnecessary and troublesome thing. They want to make the law whatever their idol says today, and then tomorrow. This is what they want and work toward and it's as simple as that. You don't have two years. If everyone sits and waits patiently they'll bring it under in months. This is exactly what Germans did in 1933. Now we have months! OMG, The end is near, this is really really really going to be the last line! 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 2 hours ago, User said: Now we have months! OMG, The end is near, this is really really really going to be the last line! The end is nigh-ish! 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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