PIK Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) This is nothing but a finger to Camadians. There is no need for this quick trip to Europe and back, he 1st trip should have been to the GG. He is not the elected PM. Trudeau 2.0 Edited March 16 by PIK 2 2 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 It's more proof that he would like to prolong the trade war with the US as long as it benefits his party. 1 1 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
PIK Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 Well it is his birthday, so i guess it's a gift from the taxpayers. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
herbie Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 Parliament doesn't resume until the 24th. Hopefully you can wait for a whole week until he can crush your dreams. 2 Quote
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 2 hours ago, PIK said: This is nothing but a finger to Camadians. There is no need for this quick trip to Europe and back, he 1st trip should have been to the GG. He is not the elected PM. Trudeau 2.0 He is going to Europe to see who our friends are before confronting trump Very wise move. Right, lets have a federal election for 36 to 51 days while Trump hammers us day in and day out while we wallow in a trade war. Gives him up to 2 more months to do what he wants without any backlash or counters from us. Cannot fight a war if the generals are all out glad handing and campaigning. Under our laws, he does not have to be elected to be PM. Has happened before. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
PIK Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: He is going to Europe to see who our friends are before confronting trump Very wise move. Right, lets have a federal election for 36 to 51 days while Trump hammers us day in and day out while we wallow in a trade war. Gives him up to 2 more months to do what he wants without any backlash or counters from us. Cannot fight a war if the generals are all out glad handing and campaigning. Under our laws, he does not have to be elected to be PM. Has happened before. Bad optics. And if he uses this to hold off on a election then he's is going to pay for it. People want change, this is not change. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 38 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: He is going to Europe to see who our friends are before confronting trump Very wise move. Well to be fair, Carney did say he was European. “I am European, actually,” he told a moderator in a World Economic Forum session posted to social media. “I am an Irish citizen. Speaking as a European …” https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-mark-carney-has-spoken-as-a-european-but-will-he-speak-as-canadas-pm 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 29 minutes ago, PIK said: Bad optics. And if he uses this to hold off on a election then he's is going to pay for it. People want change, this is not change. Might be but if one thinks about it....it is a very wise move. Find out who in the world supports you (Canada as opposed to a political party) and go into an election with some strength. People may want change but if you elect the wrong person, then you have committed Canada to an extended trade war. Also, if you stop acting on the trade war now, you just give an opportunity to your enemy take full advantage of your disarray. As I said, if you go into a as much as a 2 month election without any of the ministers or PM fighting for your position you are doomed to the fate you allow. If you believe all politicians should fight for their seats instead of fighting for Canada, well, you are blinded by your partisanship and shifted Canada to the back seat. I am not saying in any way we do not need an election but, lets take care of one crisis before making another. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 Just now, ironstone said: Well to be fair, Carney did say he was European. “I am European, actually,” he told a moderator in a World Economic Forum session posted to social media. “I am an Irish citizen. Speaking as a European …” https://torontosun.com/news/national/warmington-mark-carney-has-spoken-as-a-european-but-will-he-speak-as-canadas-pm Yes, back in 2015 . When he was over there he adopted a European position and hoping he can sell that to them. He made friends and had colleagues over there and is now calling in what he can. He is from Ft Smith NWT and raised in Edmonton. I am quite sure PP has no connections or friends or colleagues he can count on it Europe....Let alone in the US. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Yes, back in 2015 . When he was over there he adopted a European position and hoping he can sell that to them. He made friends and had colleagues over there and is now calling in what he can. He is from Ft Smith NWT and raised in Edmonton. I am quite sure PP has no connections or friends or colleagues he can count on it Europe....Let alone in the US. I seem to recall that a former Conservative leader having dual citizenship was an issue (Canada/US) with some in the media, but apparently Carney having also carrying UK and Irish citizenship is now an asset? 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, herbie said: Parliament doesn't resume until the 24th. Hopefully you can wait for a whole week until he can crush your dreams. What does that mean, does parliament need to be open before he sees trump and talks about tariffs...i don't think so... 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 18 minutes ago, ironstone said: I seem to recall that a former Conservative leader having dual citizenship was an issue (Canada/US) with some in the media, but apparently Carney having also carrying UK and Irish citizenship is now an asset? Keep up. Carney has renounced all but his Canadian citizenship Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Army Guy Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: He is going to Europe to see who our friends are before confronting trump Very wise move. Right, lets have a federal election for 36 to 51 days while Trump hammers us day in and day out while we wallow in a trade war. Gives him up to 2 more months to do what he wants without any backlash or counters from us. Cannot fight a war if the generals are all out glad handing and campaigning. Under our laws, he does not have to be elected to be PM. Has happened before. What do you think the UK and france are going to do to trump....nothing both are fighting their own trump sh1t right now... We have been dealing with this tariffs thing for how long now....most of time without justin even in the room....we still have a liberal cabinet in the house, unless your saying they can not handle doing both at once....the country does not just go on hold when an election is ongoing...This type of crises should be settled by the next elected PM...not some wanna be that inherited the seat.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
PIK Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 What i want to see is how much he pays for a glass of orange juice. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: What do you think the UK and france are going to do to trump....nothing both are fighting their own trump sh1t right now... We have been dealing with this tariffs thing for how long now....most of time without justin even in the room....we still have a liberal cabinet in the house, unless your saying they can not handle doing both at once....the country does not just go on hold when an election is ongoing...This type of crises should be settled by the next elected PM...not some wanna be that inherited the seat.... Don't know but I am glad a Canadian PM (or any politician ) is going to gather support....or even make deal to be more of a trade partner. Yes, I am saying running in an election and trying to deal with Trump and a trade war is too much to do either proper justice.. How can the PM or his cabinet run their campaigns and deal with Tyrant Trump at the same time? I disagree, we cannot afford to be kicked around and in the nuts by Trump for another 2 or so months it takes for the election to run it's course. Too many Canadians can suffer greatly in the next few months and may not be able to recover. You OK to stop all actions for that time and let trump run us over?? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
PIK Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 Just now, ExFlyer said: Don't know but I am glad a Canadian PM (or any politician ) is going to gather support....or even make deal to be more of a trade partner. Yes, I am saying running in an election and trying to deal with Trump and a trade war is too much to do either proper justice.. How can the PM or his cabinet run their campaigns and deal with Tyrant Trump at the same time? I disagree, we cannot afford to be kicked around and in the nuts by Trump for another 2 or so months it takes for the election to run it's course. Too many Canadians can suffer greatly in the next few months and may not be able to recover. You OK to stop all actions for that time and let trump run us over?? Trudeau should have stepped down in Oct. They knew all about the tariffs and the craziness from Trump. It's been nothing but lib incompetence that has got us to this point. The country needs a election now. No more stalling. 1 Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) 32 minutes ago, PIK said: What i want to see is how much he pays for a glass of orange juice. Old, old news (2012). Time to move on. Besides you know that Bev Oda was a conservative minister. 27 minutes ago, PIK said: Trudeau should have stepped down in Oct. They knew all about the tariffs and the craziness from Trump. It's been nothing but lib incompetence that has got us to this point. The country needs a election now. No more stalling. Back in October trump was just a politician making threats and telling lies every day. No one, including you ,knew what was coming down the pike. His own party members are shook up by his actions. You really are not thinking straight. Calling an election now will leave no one to fight for us. Ya think trump will put a pause on his crap while we sort out who to fight with him?? LOL Edited March 16 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Keep up. Carney has renounced all but his Canadian citizenship You were the one implying his multiple citizenships were an asset. And if a Conservative leader was on record as saying 'I am European, actually...' he would have gotten more pushback. Edited March 16 by ironstone Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 55 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: How can the PM or his cabinet run their campaigns and deal with Tyrant Trump at the same time? No election until the tariff situation is resolved? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 25 minutes ago, ironstone said: You were the one implying his multiple citizenships were an asset. And if a Conservative leader was on record as saying 'I am European, actually...' he would have gotten more pushback. Nope did not. Show me where. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
ExFlyer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 14 minutes ago, ironstone said: No election until the tariff situation is resolved? I cannot say that but getting the tariffs off our back would only make sense. Or at the very least, getting Trump to pause them. I think an election will be called but in my opinion, we will regret it as Trump is one that takes advantage of every situation and an election will have no clear leaders so,.. he will take us to the bank...literally. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
500channelsurfer Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 For the good of our country: Can Carney call the election, and then re-open parliament for limited seatings where the parties can agree to propose and pass legislation dealing only with these tariff issues and related? (no no confidence motions because the election is already called) Is there a parliamentary convention in which the election is called but parliament can still pass laws? Quote
herbie Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 (edited) Good god Flyer you're talking with people claiming the guy's some kind of criminal because he won't immediately commit suicide just to please them. The Wit brothers Half, Dim, and Nit think he should go without meeting Trump or Cdn allies and instead go to the GG and call an election for the sole reason that they want him to. Mad as hatters and blaming someone else, as usual. Quite obvious they're scared PP's ineptness will cost them by the day. Someone's already noticed him spewing out Tory ad dollars to America's FB and YouTube, even making brand new Singh's only in it for the pension ads because the can't address the real issues of the moment. Unable to grasp Canadians don't want a f*cking MiniMe who's always 2 months late and a dollar short. Edited March 16 by herbie 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) 5 hours ago, PIK said: Bad optics. The optics are perfect. Canada needs buddies in Europe right now worse than ever. But complaining about the PM taking a trip to Europe? Really? How petty can you get? I don’t think PP would even be this petty. Edited March 17 by TreeBeard 1 Quote
PIK Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 10 hours ago, TreeBeard said: The optics are perfect. Canada needs buddies in Europe right now worse than ever. But complaining about the PM taking a trip to Europe? Really? How petty can you get? I don’t think PP would even be this We are not having a trade war with Europe. He should be at home dealing with Trump and China. And what little ti.e he would have over there ( back tomorrow) he would be better off using thd phone. This is just a expensive victory lap. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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