Nationalist Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: What was the whole quote? Can we talk about what he actually said? Ok... " Stay up to date with notifications from The Independent Notifications can be managed in browser preferences. Not nowYes please Jump to content Independent Support Now Menu News Sports Voices Culture Lifestyle Travel Climate Premium NewsWorldAmericasUS politics Trump accuses the press of ‘illegal’ reporting in Justice Department remarks Trump argues that press criticism of judges should be criminalized despite the president and his allies’ ongoing attacks against the judiciary Alex Woodward in New York Friday 14 March 2025 18:39 EDT 8Comments Trump calls news outlets 'illegal' in remarks to Justice Department Your support helps us to tell the story Read more Support Now From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it's investigating the financials of Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, 'The A Word', which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging. At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story. The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it. Your support makes all the difference. Read more Donald Trump continued his assault on the press in front of the nation’s top federal law enforcement officials on Friday while taking a victory lap against a justice system that failed to hold him to account. In remarks at the Department of Justice, which presidents typically avoid to preserve the independence of the work of law enforcement agencies, Trump labelled news outlets with adversarial coverage of his administration “political arms of the Democratic party.” CNN and MSNBC “literally write 97.6 percent bad about me” and are “political arms of the Democrat Party,” Trump said. “In my opinion they’re really corrupt and they’re illegal. What they do is illegal,” he said. open image in gallery Donald Trump aired bitter grievances and raged against his political enemies in an address to the Department of Justice March 14 (Getty Images) He also listed off a list of what he called “fake news” outlets including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, baselessly alleging they are conspiring with Democratic officials to influence prosecutions and investigations against him. “It’s totally illegal what they do,” he said. He suggested that press coverage that criticized judges influenced their decisions in cases against him and should be “illegal.” Trump himself, however, continues to rage against judges that have blocked parts of his agenda, while his allies call for their impeachment and removal from the bench. Newspapers “are really no different than a highly paid political operative,” Trump said. “And it has to stop. It has to be illegal,” he said. “It’s influencing judges. It’s really changing law. And it just cannot be legal. I do not believe it is legal.” He's hoping it's illegal but...pretty uphill climb. I still say the endgame is to discredit the msm media out of existence. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, Aristides said: Sieg Heil Tweenkie. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Somewhat. The government tells the media what to print and day, and the media oblige. Oh and...the public catches on and the ratings plummet. Somehow I doubt your take, but IF true, that explains your cynicism and FALSE BELIEFS about America. 🤮 Professional reporters HERE have a code of journalistic ETHICS. But NOT the political PUNDITS on FOS LIES. spj-code-of-ethics.pdf Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › pdf › spj-code-of-ethics PDF The highest and primary obligation of ethical journalism is to serve the public. Journalists should: ▷ Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose ... 1 page SPJ's Code of Ethics Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › spj-code-of-ethics Sep 6, 2014 — The SPJ Code of Ethics is a statement of abiding principles supported by explanations and position papers that address changing journalistic practices. 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Tweenkie. ^BANKRUPT AGAIN Quote
robosmith Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ok... " Stay up to date with notifications from The Independent Notifications can be managed in browser preferences. Not nowYes please Jump to content Independent Support Now Menu News Sports Voices Culture Lifestyle Travel Climate Premium NewsWorldAmericasUS politics Trump accuses the press of ‘illegal’ reporting in Justice Department remarks Trump argues that press criticism of judges should be criminalized despite the president and his allies’ ongoing attacks against the judiciary Alex Woodward in New York Friday 14 March 2025 18:39 EDT 8Comments Trump calls news outlets 'illegal' in remarks to Justice Department Your support helps us to tell the story Read more Support Now From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it's investigating the financials of Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, 'The A Word', which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging. At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story. The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it. Your support makes all the difference. Read more Donald Trump continued his assault on the press in front of the nation’s top federal law enforcement officials on Friday while taking a victory lap against a justice system that failed to hold him to account. In remarks at the Department of Justice, which presidents typically avoid to preserve the independence of the work of law enforcement agencies, Trump labelled news outlets with adversarial coverage of his administration “political arms of the Democratic party.” CNN and MSNBC “literally write 97.6 percent bad about me” and are “political arms of the Democrat Party,” Trump said. “In my opinion they’re really corrupt and they’re illegal. What they do is illegal,” he said. open image in gallery Donald Trump aired bitter grievances and raged against his political enemies in an address to the Department of Justice March 14 (Getty Images) He also listed off a list of what he called “fake news” outlets including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, baselessly alleging they are conspiring with Democratic officials to influence prosecutions and investigations against him. “It’s totally illegal what they do,” he said. He suggested that press coverage that criticized judges influenced their decisions in cases against him and should be “illegal.” Trump himself, however, continues to rage against judges that have blocked parts of his agenda, while his allies call for their impeachment and removal from the bench. Newspapers “are really no different than a highly paid political operative,” Trump said. “And it has to stop. It has to be illegal,” he said. “It’s influencing judges. It’s really changing law. And it just cannot be legal. I do not believe it is legal.” He's hoping it's illegal but...pretty uphill climb. He's OUTRIGHT saying it's ILLEGAL and then using double talk, and weasel words, to back track out of both sides of his mouth. AKA LYING HIS ASS OFF. 🤮 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I still say the endgame is to discredit the msm media out of existence. Only FOOLS believe Trump will succeed more than he already has. More and more are discovering he's a charlatan every day. Quote
Legato Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: Somehow I doubt your take, but IF true, that explains your cynicism and FALSE BELIEFS about America. 🤮 Professional reporters HERE have a code of journalistic ETHICS. But NOT the political PUNDITS on FOS LIES. spj-code-of-ethics.pdf Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › pdf › spj-code-of-ethics PDF The highest and primary obligation of ethical journalism is to serve the public. Journalists should: ▷ Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose ... 1 page SPJ's Code of Ethics Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › spj-code-of-ethics Sep 6, 2014 — The SPJ Code of Ethics is a statement of abiding principles supported by explanations and position papers that address changing journalistic practices. ^BANKRUPT AGAIN 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 51 minutes ago, robosmith said: Somehow I doubt your take, but IF true, that explains your cynicism and FALSE BELIEFS about America. 🤮 Professional reporters HERE have a code of journalistic ETHICS. But NOT the political PUNDITS on FOS LIES. spj-code-of-ethics.pdf Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › pdf › spj-code-of-ethics PDF The highest and primary obligation of ethical journalism is to serve the public. Journalists should: ▷ Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose ... 1 page SPJ's Code of Ethics Society of Professional Journalists https://www.spj.org › spj-code-of-ethics Sep 6, 2014 — The SPJ Code of Ethics is a statement of abiding principles supported by explanations and position papers that address changing journalistic practices. ^BANKRUPT AGAIN Ethics? Like Don LeMon? Joy Reid Pfft. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 45 minutes ago, Legato said: Wow! You is UGLY. 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ethics? Like Don LeMon? Joy Reid Pfft. You GOT ANY EVIDENCE? ^These are pundits and commentators, like those on FOS LIES without the PROVEN LIES. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, robosmith said: He's OUTRIGHT saying it's ILLEGAL and then using double talk, and weasel words, to back track out of both sides of his mouth. AKA LYING HIS ASS OFF. 🤮 Only FOOLS believe Trump will succeed more than he already has. More and more are discovering he's a charlatan every day. As with pretty much everything you post, I'll take this whiney drivel with a grain of salt. 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Wow! You is UGLY. You GOT ANY EVIDENCE? ^These are pundits and commentators, like those on FOS LIES without the PROVEN LIES. Lol...too funny. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 Trump's correct, in that it is a disservice to Americans and to their democracy that the MSM there is so openly dishonest and biased. Should they be allowed to lie and still hold a broadcast license saying "News" on it in a modern, civilized society? I think that 85% of Canadians would admit that CBC is completely biased in favour of the LPOC, and 65% would admit that the CBC lies on a regular basis. Right? Be real: the Conservatives couldn't openly talk about defunding the CBC if the majority of Canadians didn't know they were fake news because it would be political suicide. Most Canadians inherently know that what the CPC are saying makes sense for this country. Sure, it's hard to imagine sticking the last fork in the CBC's turkey given their history of promoting the film and radio industries in Canada, providing service to far-flung regions that wouldn't have had any TV or radio service in the 1900s, and the cultural identity that they helped forge over decades of service, but I think they're way too far gone to come back again. And as bad as the CBC is, they look like paragons of virtue next to MSNBC. You need to be an America-hating racist to watch that drivel. Even dogs get dumber from watching MSNBC: This is a golden retriever that watched Rachel Maddow once: Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: “It’s totally illegal what they do,” he said. 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: As with pretty much everything you post, I'll take this whiney drivel with a grain of salt. Thanks for proving YOUR detachment from REALITY, AGAIN. LMAO 20 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Lol...too funny. ^Says the BANKRUPT CLOWN. LMAO Quote
West Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Somewhat. The government tells the media what to print and say, and the media oblige. Oh and...the public catches on and the ratings plummet. The most disgraceful thing was the censorship involved with anybody daring to question "experts" Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ok... " Stay up to date with notifications from The Independent Notifications can be managed in browser preferences. Not nowYes please Jump to content Independent Support Now Menu News Sports Voices Culture Lifestyle Travel Climate Premium NewsWorldAmericasUS politics Trump accuses the press of ‘illegal’ reporting in Justice Department remarks Trump argues that press criticism of judges should be criminalized despite the president and his allies’ ongoing attacks against the judiciary Alex Woodward in New York Friday 14 March 2025 18:39 EDT 8Comments Trump calls news outlets 'illegal' in remarks to Justice Department Your support helps us to tell the story Read more Support Now From reproductive rights to climate change to Big Tech, The Independent is on the ground when the story is developing. Whether it's investigating the financials of Elon Musk's pro-Trump PAC or producing our latest documentary, 'The A Word', which shines a light on the American women fighting for reproductive rights, we know how important it is to parse out the facts from the messaging. At such a critical moment in US history, we need reporters on the ground. Your donation allows us to keep sending journalists to speak to both sides of the story. The Independent is trusted by Americans across the entire political spectrum. And unlike many other quality news outlets, we choose not to lock Americans out of our reporting and analysis with paywalls. We believe quality journalism should be available to everyone, paid for by those who can afford it. Your support makes all the difference. Read more Donald Trump continued his assault on the press in front of the nation’s top federal law enforcement officials on Friday while taking a victory lap against a justice system that failed to hold him to account. In remarks at the Department of Justice, which presidents typically avoid to preserve the independence of the work of law enforcement agencies, Trump labelled news outlets with adversarial coverage of his administration “political arms of the Democratic party.” CNN and MSNBC “literally write 97.6 percent bad about me” and are “political arms of the Democrat Party,” Trump said. “In my opinion they’re really corrupt and they’re illegal. What they do is illegal,” he said. open image in gallery Donald Trump aired bitter grievances and raged against his political enemies in an address to the Department of Justice March 14 (Getty Images) He also listed off a list of what he called “fake news” outlets including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal, baselessly alleging they are conspiring with Democratic officials to influence prosecutions and investigations against him. “It’s totally illegal what they do,” he said. He suggested that press coverage that criticized judges influenced their decisions in cases against him and should be “illegal.” Trump himself, however, continues to rage against judges that have blocked parts of his agenda, while his allies call for their impeachment and removal from the bench. Newspapers “are really no different than a highly paid political operative,” Trump said. “And it has to stop. It has to be illegal,” he said. “It’s influencing judges. It’s really changing law. And it just cannot be legal. I do not believe it is legal.” He's hoping it's illegal but...pretty uphill climb. I still say the endgame is to discredit the msm media out of existence. Oh good. A long diatribe with quotes out of context. How about this: So what is he saying? He's saying that CNN and MSNBC are nothing more than propaganda arms of the DNC. Now, would it be a stretch to say that their total dedication to the DNC is a violation of FEC rules? Willy Law Under the content prong of the FEC's two-part test, a communication must be one of the following types in order to be subject to the coordination analysis: An electioneering communication Express advocacy Republication, redistribution, and dissemination of campaign materials A public communication that refers to a political party or a clearly identified candidate for federal office and is disseminated within 120 days of an election, convention or caucus One of the other FEC references I found goes like this: FEC Coordination defined Coordinated means made in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, a candidate’s authorized committee, or their agents, or a political party committee or its agents. The three prongs of the test consider: The source of payment (payment prong) The subject matter of the communication (content prong) The interaction between the person paying for the communication and the candidate or political party committee (conduct prong) ---‐---------------------------- Based on those portions of the law, it would be illegal for the news media to disseminate DNC talking points with the purpose of influencing the electorate. Even if the media did it without an expressed request, the "in concert with" implies that expressed requests are not required. To be illegal, there would have to be some evidence of intent to influence the electorate. This would be one small example: Is there an intention to influence people by using approved DNC talking points? It might be. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 2 hours ago, West said: The most disgraceful thing was the censorship involved with anybody daring to question "experts" Very disgraceful. The "experts" have not been fairing well lately. They're wrong more often than not. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Very disgraceful. The "experts" have not been fairing well lately. They're wrong more often than not. And your gold standard by which you judge is ^YOUR IGNORANCE, which is just NOT CREDIBLE. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Oh good. A long diatribe with quotes out of context. How about this: So what is he saying? He's saying that CNN and MSNBC are nothing more than propaganda arms of the DNC. Now, would it be a stretch to say that their total dedication to the DNC is a violation of FEC rules? Willy Law Under the content prong of the FEC's two-part test, a communication must be one of the following types in order to be subject to the coordination analysis: An electioneering communication Express advocacy Republication, redistribution, and dissemination of campaign materials A public communication that refers to a political party or a clearly identified candidate for federal office and is disseminated within 120 days of an election, convention or caucus One of the other FEC references I found goes like this: FEC Coordination defined Coordinated means made in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, a candidate’s authorized committee, or their agents, or a political party committee or its agents. The three prongs of the test consider: The source of payment (payment prong) The subject matter of the communication (content prong) The interaction between the person paying for the communication and the candidate or political party committee (conduct prong) ---‐---------------------------- Based on those portions of the law, it would be illegal for the news media to disseminate DNC talking points with the purpose of influencing the electorate. Even if the media did it without an expressed request, the "in concert with" implies that expressed requests are not required. To be illegal, there would have to be some evidence of intent to influence the electorate. This would be one small example: Is there an intention to influence people by using approved DNC talking points? It might be. Agreed. But it's a tough sell. I'd like to see this tried by the SCOTUS. The collaboration is obvious. There is ample evidence to bring a case. We'll see if it ever gets to court. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Agreed. But it's a tough sell. I'd like to see this tried by the SCOTUS. The collaboration is obvious. There is ample evidence to bring a case. We'll see if it ever gets to court. IF any media news org acts as the political arm of a Party it is FOS LIES, so you agreeing with BULLSHIT that cites "DNC" is a complete NON-STARTER and you are a FOOL to not understand that. Duh. Quote
Legato Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 31 minutes ago, robosmith said: IF any media news org acts as the political arm of a Party it is FOS LIES, so you agreeing with BULLSHIT that cites "DNC" is a complete NON-STARTER and you are a FOOL to not understand that. Duh. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 15 minutes ago, Legato said: Thanks for admitting you're a FOOL & TROLL who doesn't understand that. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 28 minutes ago, robosmith said: Thanks for admitting you're a FOOL & TROLL who doesn't understand that. Thanks for admitting you're as clueless as ever kiddo 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 8 hours ago, robosmith said: And your gold standard by which you judge is ^YOUR IGNORANCE, which is just NOT CREDIBLE. Here's you "experts" robo... https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-experts-are-almost-always-wrong-9997024/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Here's you "experts" robo... https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-experts-are-almost-always-wrong-9997024/ No, she's YOUR "expert." And apparently you believe what she says: Quote The moral here? We really have no idea what’s going to happen, ever. Meanwhile everyone else knows ^this is just BLATANTLY FALSE. We do KNOW that the sun will rise tomorrow. Duh Along with a whole host of things which EXPERTS KNOW but you DON'T. I'll bet you believe you DO KNOW how computers will behave when you write code for them. LMAO But that's about it. Quote
Hodad Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 20 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Oh good. A long diatribe with quotes out of context. How about this: So what is he saying? He's saying that CNN and MSNBC are nothing more than propaganda arms of the DNC. Now, would it be a stretch to say that their total dedication to the DNC is a violation of FEC rules? Willy Law Under the content prong of the FEC's two-part test, a communication must be one of the following types in order to be subject to the coordination analysis: An electioneering communication Express advocacy Republication, redistribution, and dissemination of campaign materials A public communication that refers to a political party or a clearly identified candidate for federal office and is disseminated within 120 days of an election, convention or caucus One of the other FEC references I found goes like this: FEC Coordination defined Coordinated means made in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate, a candidate’s authorized committee, or their agents, or a political party committee or its agents. The three prongs of the test consider: The source of payment (payment prong) The subject matter of the communication (content prong) The interaction between the person paying for the communication and the candidate or political party committee (conduct prong) ---‐---------------------------- Based on those portions of the law, it would be illegal for the news media to disseminate DNC talking points with the purpose of influencing the electorate. Even if the media did it without an expressed request, the "in concert with" implies that expressed requests are not required. To be illegal, there would have to be some evidence of intent to influence the electorate. This would be one small example: Is there an intention to influence people by using approved DNC talking points? It might be. Holy shit! Joy everywhere! So the media was reporting--almost verbatim--the words the candidates used to describe the tone and approach of the campaign? Well, I suppose basic reporting is deeply confusing to the Fox news crowd. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: Holy shit! Joy everywhere! So the media was reporting--almost verbatim--the words the candidates used to describe the tone and approach of the campaign? Well, I suppose basic reporting is deeply confusing to the Fox news crowd. That's not what was going on, is it? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Nationalist Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 22 minutes ago, robosmith said: No, she's YOUR "expert." And apparently you believe what she says: Meanwhile everyone else knows ^this is just BLATANTLY FALSE. We do KNOW that the sun will rise tomorrow. Duh Along with a whole host of things which EXPERTS KNOW but you DON'T. I'll bet you believe you DO KNOW how computers will behave when you write code for them. LMAO But that's about it. Yes Dear. The sun will rise tomorrow... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Hodad Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: That's not what was going on, is it? Yes, that's EXACTLY what's going on. Look at that stupid tweet--because apparently some whackjob calling herself "Sandra Freedom" is all the source you need. Actually look at it. The Google screenshot of the NY times even references the quote from Walz's debut speech: “Thank you, Madam Vice President, for the trust you put in me. But maybe more so, thank you for bringing back the joy.” The campaign set the tone and explicitly made "joy" a talking point for the tone and tenor of the campaign. This isn't evidence of a conspiracy where all the news organizations got together to decide to describe the campaign as joyful--though that's certainly what you intend to imply. It's evidence of news organizations doing the basic job of reporting WTF is happening in the campaign. 1 Quote
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