Trump Pulls the Plug on Further Aid to Ukraine | Larry Johnson

[ironstone]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're talking about ^stereotypes. I'm talking about individuals who state bad intentions or wishes online.

People are being arrested in Europe for posting opinions that are not about encouraging violence or any bad intentions.

 

[herbie]

[robosmith]

53 minutes ago, ironstone said:

People are being arrested in Europe for posting opinions that are not about encouraging violence or any bad intentions.

Like what?

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Like what?

This mom was arrested because she posted her opinion on the transgender agenda. She is Catholic and an easy target. I have my doubts that they would charge a Muslim for posting a similar opinion.

https://ewtn.co.uk/article-uk-social-media-arrest-one-minute-catholic-mom-was-roasting-chicken-the-next-she-was-off-to-jail/

https://www.theregister.com/2016/06/02/social_media_arrests_up_37pc_london_section_127_communications_act/

In Germany one can be arrested for insulting a politician.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/21/world-news/germans-cant-insult-politicians-which-is-why-we-need-to-protect-free-speech-in-the-us/

 

[robosmith]

14 minutes ago, ironstone said:

This mom was arrested because she posted her opinion on the transgender agenda. She is Catholic and an easy target. I have my doubts that they would charge a Muslim for posting a similar opinion.

https://ewtn.co.uk/article-uk-social-media-arrest-one-minute-catholic-mom-was-roasting-chicken-the-next-she-was-off-to-jail/

https://www.theregister.com/2016/06/02/social_media_arrests_up_37pc_london_section_127_communications_act/

In Germany one can be arrested for insulting a politician.

https://nypost.com/2025/02/21/world-news/germans-cant-insult-politicians-which-is-why-we-need-to-protect-free-speech-in-the-us/

 

It seems like ALL of ^these things are gratuitous HOSTILITY. When that becomes normalized, more and more see it as license to mistreat the targeted minority.

I don't see how you can defend such hostility. Maybe instead of jail they should just face hefty fines.

Which is what I suspect will happen in most cases.

[ironstone]

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It seems like ALL of ^these things are gratuitous HOSTILITY. When that becomes normalized, more and more see it as license to mistreat the targeted minority.

I don't see how you can defend such hostility. Maybe instead of jail they should just face hefty fines.

Which is what I suspect will happen in most cases.

No surprise, I disagree. It's not necessarily hostility to express concerns about something, whether it's the transgender agenda or violence from a certain religion.

It should not be considered a crime either, unless they cross the line by calling for violence.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

No surprise, I disagree. It's not necessarily hostility to express concerns about something, whether it's the transgender agenda or violence from a certain religion.

It should not be considered a crime either, unless they cross the line by calling for violence.

Perpetrating a trend toward greater violence is just as bad. Like when Trump did that on Jan 6th. 

[ironstone]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Perpetrating a trend toward greater violence is just as bad. Like when Trump did that on Jan 6th. 

Jan 6 violence was bad. Antifa/BLM violence was worse. But did anyone on the left complain about them?

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Jan 6 violence was bad. Antifa/BLM violence was worse. But did anyone on the left complain about them?

So, how was it worse? Yes a lot on the left don't support violence no matter who is doing it.

That's why there was  a peaceful transition of power in 2024, unlike you Aholes in 2020.

Edited March 5 by Aristides

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I dunno what people are saying in Ukraine, but they're definitely blaming Trump over here. 

There's a 'rumour', or whatever you wanna call it, going on around here that Zelenski called Trump or Vance a b1tch under his breath, in Ukrainian, at the WH, and if that's true, that might have been a billion-dollar word. 

Around here...WTF does that mean?

They're definitely blaming a rumour you say...definitely even? I'm almost definitely certain you've got squat or whatever you wanna call it to corroborate WTF you mean.

An honest to God quote rumour unquote

LMAO!

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Jan 6 violence was bad. Antifa/BLM violence was worse. But did anyone on the left complain about them?

Worse for property damage, sure. But not worse for POLITICAL DAMAGE; esp if it had succeeded with Trump's goals to overturn the results of the election by disrupting the EC vote count. 

Which do you believe had more noble goals? Fighting racist police policies, or disenfranchising the will of the voters?

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Worse for property damage, sure. But not worse for POLITICAL DAMAGE; esp if it had succeeded with Trump's goals to overturn the results of the election by disrupting the EC vote count. 

Which do you believe had more noble goals? Fighting racist police policies, or disenfranchising the will of the voters?

It was literally voter intimidation. It was jury intimidation. It had far greater impact on our republic. J6 had zero impact.

[gatomontes99]

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Trump announces he received letter from Zelensky asking to come to ‘negotiating table’ again after Ukraine prez was booted from White House 

https://nypost.com/2025/03/04/us-news/trump-announces-he-received-letter-from-zelensky-asking-to-come-to-negotiating-table-again-after-ukraine-prez-was-booted-from-white-house/

Well looky there. Z didn't have the cards. He did have to fold. It's time to end the war and Trump has both sides at the table. Something Biden couldn't or wouldn't do.

Edited March 5 by gatomontes99

[Gaétan]

Trump should put senators and representatives in jail, they are corrupt people who promote poisons like vaccines and bombs

[User]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

So, how was it worse? Yes a lot on the left don't support violence no matter who is doing it.

That's why there was  a peaceful transition of power in 2024, unlike you Aholes in 2020.

It was worse in every quantifiable way. 

Vastly more property damage. 

Vastly more federal property destruction. 

More people hurt. More people dead. Vastly more LEO harmed. 

More vandalism, more violence, rape, on and on and on. 

[ironstone]

16 hours ago, Aristides said:

So, how was it worse?

Hard to believe you don't know the answer, but it was worse because of the sheer scale of the violence and dollar amount in damages. Not to mention the fact that those doing the rioting were bailed out by the actions of people like Kamala Harris. She pretty much encouraged them to riot. To claim she didn't encourage violence is undermined by the fact she actively worked to get violent protesters bailed out ASAP.

Sen. Harris’ remarks came during an appearance on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert” on June 17. At the time, nationwide protests were underway following the death of George Floyd, a Black man, in Minneapolis police custody.

“They’re not going to stop,” Harris said at the time. “This is a movement, I’m telling you. They’re not going to stop and everyone beware, because they’re not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before Election Day in November and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. Everyone should take note of that on both levels. They’re not going to let up and they should not and we should not.”

[ironstone]

15 hours ago, robosmith said:

Which do you believe had more noble goals? Fighting racist police policies, or disenfranchising the will of the voters?

Burning down a police station when they knew there were people inside(lucky enough to get out with their lives) accomplished what exactly?

What did looting, and then burning down black owned businesses accomplish?

[robosmith]

19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Burning down a police station when they knew there were people inside(lucky enough to get out with their lives) accomplished what exactly?

I would say it showed cops that there were consequences to killing unarmed blacks. Many were NOT "LUCKY to get out with their lives."

19 minutes ago, ironstone said:

What did looting, and then burning down black owned businesses accomplish?

How many and where did "burning down black owned businesses" happen?

You believe "black owned businesses" were targeted, or just collateral damage?

Do you know how long blacks suffered under Jim Crow until the riots of the '60s conveyed the message that there were huge costs for INJUSTICE?

That is the COST of INACTION on INJUSTICE.

[ironstone]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I would say it showed cops that there were consequences to killing unarmed blacks.

That statement speaks volumes about your moral compass, or lack thereof.

You think it was perfectly acceptable for violent thugs to torch a police station, no matter if anyone is inside or not.

And it also shows how you are still misinformed if you think cops run around targeting blacks for no reason.

[ironstone]

34 minutes ago, robosmith said:

How many and where did "burning down black owned businesses" happen?

You believe "black owned businesses" were targeted, or just collateral damage?

https://fee.org/articles/here-are-just-10-of-the-many-minority-owned-businesses-destroyed-in-the-riots/

Here are 10 examples from the seemingly endless reports of minority-owned businesses suffering at the hands of rioters and looters:

Private Stock Premium Boutique, a black-owned clothing store based in Austin, Texas, was looted and left in ruins during the riots.
Bole Ethiopian Cuisine, an ethnic restaurant in Saint Paul, Minnesota, was burnt, vandalized, and destroyed during rioting.
Guns and Roses Boutique, a Dallas, Texas boutique, was started by a black businesswoman who built her fashion enterprise from the ground up. It was looted and left in ruins during riots.
Go Get It Tobacco, a black-owned tobacco store in St. Paul, Minnesota, was vandalized, robbed, and left in tatters.
King’s Fashion, a Philadelphia boutique, was burned and left layered in soot. Its minority owners had “built the business over two decades, working seven-day weeks.”
MN Fashion and Jewelry, a jewelry store in Minneapolis, Minnesota was raided and looted, leaving its owner, Masum Siddiquee, to pick up the pieces.
Scores Sports Bar, a Minneapolis sports bar, was the brainchild of a black firefighter who used his life savings to start it. He had planned to open it in June. Rioters burned it to the ground, and the owners did not have insurance.
Healing Path Wellness Services, a South Minneapolis minority-owned mental health clinic, was burned, looted, and destroyed.
Ihman’s Hair Studio, a Philadelphia hair salon, was looted and ransacked. The owner wrote that she is “hurt and angry that my people would vandalize and destroy a black-owned business.”
Kane’s Barbershop and Altatudes, a minority-owned barbershop in Austin, Texas, was burned during riots and extensively damaged.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-29/minneapolis-minority-business-owners-awake-to-destruction

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

That statement speaks volumes about your moral compass, or lack thereof.

You "think" wrong. What I stated is factual, NOT MORAL NOR IMMORAL judgement.

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

You think it was perfectly acceptable for violent thugs to torch a police station, no matter if anyone is inside or not.

I didn't say that. IF I did, you WOULD NOT HAVE TO FALSELY INTERPRET what I DID SAY.

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

And it also shows how you are still misinformed if you think cops run around targeting blacks for no reason.

I THINK SOME COPS DO. Probably very few. Many more act recklessly in ways they would not when dealing with whites.

You know what proves that? That many cops will lie to cover up the illegal actions of their fellow cops, like the 16 cops who lied about what happened to Laquan McDonald, even though only one cop shot him several times in the back.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

https://fee.org/articles/here-are-just-10-of-the-many-minority-owned-businesses-destroyed-in-the-riots/

Here are 10 examples from the seemingly endless reports of minority-owned businesses suffering at the hands of rioters and looters:

Private Stock Premium Boutique, a black-owned clothing store based in Austin, Texas, was looted and left in ruins during the riots.
Bole Ethiopian Cuisine, an ethnic restaurant in Saint Paul, Minnesota, was burnt, vandalized, and destroyed during rioting.
Guns and Roses Boutique, a Dallas, Texas boutique, was started by a black businesswoman who built her fashion enterprise from the ground up. It was looted and left in ruins during riots.
Go Get It Tobacco, a black-owned tobacco store in St. Paul, Minnesota, was vandalized, robbed, and left in tatters.
King’s Fashion, a Philadelphia boutique, was burned and left layered in soot. Its minority owners had “built the business over two decades, working seven-day weeks.”
MN Fashion and Jewelry, a jewelry store in Minneapolis, Minnesota was raided and looted, leaving its owner, Masum Siddiquee, to pick up the pieces.
Scores Sports Bar, a Minneapolis sports bar, was the brainchild of a black firefighter who used his life savings to start it. He had planned to open it in June. Rioters burned it to the ground, and the owners did not have insurance.
Healing Path Wellness Services, a South Minneapolis minority-owned mental health clinic, was burned, looted, and destroyed.
Ihman’s Hair Studio, a Philadelphia hair salon, was looted and ransacked. The owner wrote that she is “hurt and angry that my people would vandalize and destroy a black-owned business.”
Kane’s Barbershop and Altatudes, a minority-owned barbershop in Austin, Texas, was burned during riots and extensively damaged.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-29/minneapolis-minority-business-owners-awake-to-destruction

So by your failure to answer the question, you don't know whether black businesses were specifically targeted.

That is the consequence of decades of unmitigated racial injustice. AKA, didn't happen in the vacuum that you pretend.

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

I would say it showed cops that there were consequences to killing unarmed blacks. Many were NOT "LUCKY to get out with their lives."

Wow. You NEVER get to talk to anyone here ever again about any norms, laws, or act like you care one bit about LEO. 

You are outright condoning and being glib about violence against police here. 

 

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

I THINK SOME COPS DO. Probably very few. Many more act recklessly in ways they would not when dealing with whites.

You know what proves that? That many cops will lie to cover up the illegal actions of their fellow cops, like the 16 cops who lied about what happened to Laquan McDonald, even though only one cop shot him several times in the back.

Just sheer unmitigated ignorant drivel. 

You can find more examples of white people being abused, killed while unarmed (wrongly), and police lying to cover it all up. 

 

 

[ironstone]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

So by your failure to answer the question, you don't know whether black businesses were specifically targeted.

I realize that a lot of the BLM/Antifa thugs rioting may not all be locals, but just how freaking stupid are these people that they just set every building in sight ablaze without for one second stopping to see who actually owns the business?

And it is totally unjustifiable to be burning everything in sight in the first place. Doesn't matter who owns the business, white, black, big corporation...it is just flat out wrong.