robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I simply said it was not a democratic process which freed the Ukrainians I never said there was anything wrong with that it was not a democratic process which freed America from the British Crown neither Zelenskyy was elected in their DEMOCRATIC PROCESS after Yanukovych was IMPEACHED by unanimous vote and FLED TO MOSCOW.. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: MAGA Republicans prefer to side with Russia Russia is ultra right wing & Orthodox Christian Russia is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP and Putin is the world's biggest KLEPTOCRAT. Nothing legitimate about any of it. 🤮 23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: while Ukraine is a proxy for the lunatic leftist Woke Progressive Marxist Democrats Nothing but ^BULLSHIT from an asshat. 23 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: too bad so sad that the Ukraine bet on the wrong horse You SAID you don't even like Russia so you've bet on the wrong horse, too. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Zelenskyy was elected in their DEMOCRATIC PROCESS after Yanukovych was IMPEACHED by unanimous vote and FLED TO MOSCOW.. after the American backed overthrow of the elected government, the local proxies consolidated power then several Oblasts in the Donbass revolted against the that regime in Kiev 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: because most people get their information from the media which is whom invented the term MAD because the media wanted to invoke hysteria about nuclear deterrence and "MAD!" was scarier Doesn't matter what you say, MV was never widely used. I never heard about it until YOU brought it up. Congrats on your use of irrelevant TRIVIA. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 Just now, robosmith said: Russia is a FASCIST DICTATORSHIP and Putin is the world's biggest KLEPTOCRAT. as opposed to the regimes we do business with in China, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela & Turkey ? Just now, robosmith said: Doesn't matter what you say, MV was never widely used. I never heard about it until YOU brought it up. Congrats on your use of irrelevant TRIVIA. doesn't matter what you say, since you lost the election and now Trump is blowing your world up with impunity Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: no, David Frum was a W Bushie speech writer whom vehemently advocated for the Iraq War Sure. He was ASSIGNED to write speeches for Bush and did his job. Then he came to his senses and you still haven't. Quote
West Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 It was good to see. Zelinskyy should hand over the evidence on the Democrats racket in Eastern Europe before demanding more money 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: You SAID you don't even like Russia so you've bet on the wrong horse, too. I haven't bet on the Russians I simply note that they are unable to invade and occupy Ukraine hence they are not actually a threat to invade nor occupy Western Europe so no reason to invoke the Domino Theory all over again Just now, robosmith said: Sure. He was ASSIGNED to write speeches for Bush and did his job. Then he came to his senses and you still haven't. no, he admits that he supported the Iraq War at the time 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 24 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: yes you are and now you are going to burn in a fire of your own making, Woke Progressive Marxist lunatics You saying ^this does NOT make it true. You can't even address, let alone refute, the reason I've given why you're LYING. Quote
eyeball Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 Just now, robosmith said: Sure. He was ASSIGNED to write speeches for Bush and did his job. Then he came to his senses and you still haven't. I get the sense David Frum doesn't sleep well at night. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, robosmith said: You saying ^this does NOT make it true. You can't even address, let alone refute, the reason I've given why you're LYING. lying about what ? Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: They're playing a game of Risk. I expect we'll soon be treated to some sort of galvanizing event that triggers a flurry of annexations. I'm sure I heard some wag say Americans voted to change the world too. Promise kept I guess. Lots of wags say that, but there's NO reason to believe that, when Trump denied EVERYTHING he's following from Project 2025. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 1 minute ago, eyeball said: I get the sense David Frum doesn't sleep well at night. the point is that he was all in favour of invading and occupying a country to steal its resources, until he wasn't Quote
West Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: To publicly bully and humiliate a man fighting for the life of his country is despicable in the extreme (especially when you are supposed to be on the side of democracy). This show will only play well with the most die-hard of Trump’s cult members. History is watching, and will lump Trump and Vance in with the bad guys. Zelensky has suspended all elections under the guise of national emergency. His ratings are in the tubes 1 Quote
Scott75 Posted February 28 Author Report Posted February 28 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: this is simply fighting fire with fire I actually think Trump is trying to cut off the oxygen of this fire, which is definitely a good thing. I just finished watching a 47 minute talk wherein Deep Dive Youtuber Daniel Davis interviewed Professor John Mearsheimer to hear his thoughts on Trump and Vance's tussle with Zelensky today, I think it was well worth my time. It can be seen here: Edited February 28 by Scott75 Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Domino Theory 2.0 Exhibit A Nope. Putin has stated and demonstrated his commitment to reassemble the USSR. "Greatest tragedy of the 20th century" -Putin Quote
West Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Especially after dragging his witch-hunt grievance into it - lots of orange meat got fed to MAGA today. Probably. Trump lost some credibility with the Epstein debacle yesterday and this was his shot at quickly turning the media cycle to something that will quiet the base momentarily. Lots of MAGA are disgusted that there's been no arrests when there's all this talk about pedos Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 18 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: not "made", merely provoked STILL ^NO EVIDENCE. LMAO Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 (edited) Maybe they could have a press conference in the WhiteHouse with Putin in attendance so Putin can take questions from the press and explain the invasion of a sovereign country? Edited February 28 by TreeBeard Quote
I am Groot Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 3 hours ago, Dougie93 said: at the end of the day, the MAGA base does not want to fight Russia for Ukraine and views Zelesnky as a bad actor essentially, Ukraine became the cause celebre of the international Woke Progressive left now Ukraine is simply caught in the inevitable Go Woke Go Broke effect therein Are you suggesting Zelensky is 'woke' because he stood up to Russia? The MAGA base can suck a bag of dicks. They're ignorant yokels who worship a man with less morality than a pimp, less maturity than a four-year-old, and less intelligence than the pig Trump resembles. 1 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the Obama Administration made no secret of the fact that they were backing the revolution which part of the federal government does that sort of thing ? ^STILL NO EVIDENCE the CIA was working in Ukraine. You know who was working in Ukraine? Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort worked for Yanukovych for years. As well as Russian oligarch Deripaska. 19 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: America was founded by treason ; Declaration of Independence Preamble IT'S not treason when there's no other way to secede. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 2 hours ago, Radiorum said: To publicly bully and humiliate a man fighting for the life of his country is despicable in the extreme (especially when you are supposed to be on the side of democracy). This show will only play well with the most die-hard of Trump’s cult members. History is watching, and will lump Trump and Vance in with the bad guys. Especially given the US persuaded Ukraine to give its nukes back to Russia by guaranteeing its borders. Now that push comes to shove Trump is thrusting his fat, greasy palm out and demanding he be paid off. 3 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 5 minutes ago, West said: Zelensky has suspended all elections under the guise of national emergency. His ratings are in the tubes The UK didn’t have an election during WWII until the European part of the war was done. Is it realistic to expect Ukraine to be able to hold elections during a war? Quote
robosmith Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 16 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: after the American backed overthrow of the elected government, the local proxies consolidated power then several Oblasts in the Donbass revolted against the that regime in Kiev No American voted to impeach Yanukovych unanimously. Quote
Dougie93 Posted February 28 Report Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Scott75 said: I actually think Trump is trying to cut off the oxygen of this fire, the fire I refer to is simply that the right has learned its lesson from losing for decades and has now started to adopt the leftists policies right back against the left in this case, Trump has simply stolen the Democrats Peace Now platform of the 1970's Detente 2.0 and Ukrainian South Vietnam gets thrown under the bus 1 Quote
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