xul Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 He said EU had $230 billion frozen Russian assets. As long as the war continues EU have the money in their pockets. Even if the wars ends, as long as Russia is identified as the aggressor, they will still keep the money or maybe use the money under the name of rebuilding Ukraine, to buy goods only from EU companies with far higher price than market price, so they will virtually have the money in their pocket. In short, they won't directly give these money to Ukraine so Ukrainian can use them freely to buy goods from anywhere they wants. I guess this is why EU insists to continue the war and identify Russia as the aggressor. If Russia wasn't the aggressor, they would have no excuses to seize these assets but have to return them to the rightful owner once the war was ended. US on the other hand, doesn't have many Russian assets within their grasp. This is why Trump wants Ukraine to pay the bill for US aid but European always say "Russia should pay for it". 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 19 minutes ago, xul said: He said EU had $230 billion frozen Russian assets. As long as the war continues EU have the money in their pockets. Even if the wars ends, as long as Russia is identified as the aggressor, they will still keep the money or maybe use the money under the name of rebuilding Ukraine, to buy goods only from EU companies with far higher price than market price, so they will virtually have the money in their pocket. In short, they won't directly give these money to Ukraine so Ukrainian can use them freely to buy goods from anywhere they wants. I guess this is why EU insists to continue the war and identify Russia as the aggressor. If Russia wasn't the aggressor, they would have no excuses to seize these assets but have to return them to the rightful owner once the war was ended. US on the other hand, doesn't have many Russian assets within their grasp. This is why Trump wants Ukraine to pay the bill for US aid but European always say "Russia should pay for it". Do you have ANY evidence for your (bolded) claim? Or just SPECULATION. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Do you have ANY evidence for your (bolded) claim? Or just SPECULATION. The EU i9s a cancer in Europe.! The only ones who have benefited are the French, German and British corporations. Central Europe has been shat upon endlessly. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: The EU i9s a cancer in Europe.! The only ones who have benefited are the French, German and British corporations. Central Europe has been shat upon endlessly. STILL ^NO EVIDENCE for ANYTHING. LMAO Quote
Aristides Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 (edited) Russian assets in Europe have been frozen, they haven't been confiscated. They should be used as leverage in peace negotiations. US arms manufacturers are making shit load of money out of this war. US right wingers had a hemorrhage when frozen Iranian assets were returned. Edited February 25 by Aristides Quote
Nationalist Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: STILL ^NO EVIDENCE for ANYTHING. LMAO Jack-ass...I lived there when the EU took hold and have family over there telling me daily about the crap the EU is dishing out. How 'bout you Tweenkie-Poo? Any real and practical experience you'd care to share? Or are you just gonna quote MSM for us... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 28 minutes ago, robosmith said: STILL ^NO EVIDENCE for ANYTHING. LMAO robomarx is dying to know, because he's a euroslut, first, and he hates opposition to the global oligarchs. Quote
Deluge Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Jack-ass...I lived there when the EU took hold and have family over there telling me daily about the crap the EU is dishing out. How 'bout you Tweenkie-Poo? Any real and practical experience you'd care to share? Or are you just gonna quote MSM for us... Just MSM, thanks. It's all robomarx has. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 31 minutes ago, Aristides said: US right wingers had a hemorrhage when frozen Iranian assets were returned. And where do you think that money went when Iran got it? How much went to funding terrorism in Gaza and elsewhere? Iranians convert dollars to deaths more efficiently than even Planned Parenthood. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 16 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Jack-ass...I lived there when the EU took hold and have family over there telling me daily about the crap the EU is dishing out. How 'bout you Tweenkie-Poo? Any real and practical experience you'd care to share? Or are you just gonna quote MSM for us... So ^you SAY, with NO EVIDENCE, jack ass. Quote
Aristides Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: And where do you think that money went when Iran got it? How much went to funding terrorism in Gaza and elsewhere? Iranians convert dollars to deaths more efficiently than even Planned Parenthood. Where do you think Russia's money woul go if it was returned? My point was, Europe has not been repaid any more than the US benefited from Iran's frozen assets. Quote
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: And where do you think that money went when Iran got it? How much went to funding terrorism in Gaza and elsewhere? Iranians convert dollars to deaths more efficiently than even Planned Parenthood. The FACT is, Iran misbehaved and the money which was in a trust was never spent on ANYTHING. Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE once again. U.S. and Qatar agree to prevent disbursal of recently ... NPR https://www.npr.org › 2023/10/13 › u-s-and-qatar-agre... Oct 13, 2023 — "None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran," Secretary of State Antony Blinken told .. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 24 minutes ago, Aristides said: Where do you think Russia's money woul go if it was returned? Ummmmm, Russia Quote My point was, Europe has not been repaid any more than the US benefited from Iran's frozen assets. So what? Who gets their money back from a proxy war? And since when were reparations a great idea? 41 minutes ago, robosmith said: The FACT is, Iran misbehaved and the money which was in a trust was never spent on ANYTHING. Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE once again. U.S. and Qatar agree to prevent disbursal of recently ... NPR https://www.npr.org › 2023/10/13 › u-s-and-qatar-agre... Oct 13, 2023 — "None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran," Secretary of State Antony Blinken told .. Thanks for once again proving how gullible and stupid you are. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Thanks for once again proving how gullible and stupid you are. YOUR MERE CLAIMS corroborate my POSTED EVIDENCE. If you had real evidence you could have posted that, but you do not. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 (edited) 22 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOUR MERE CLAIMS corroborate my POSTED EVIDENCE. If you had real evidence you could have posted that, but you do not. So who do you believe, dummy? Qatar, NPR, or Blinken? OMG, THE COMBO OF THE THREE OF THEM MEANS... nothing 🤣 F'ing dummy. https://apnews.com/united-states-government-fd4113419276444eba1d2a46d5c29752 The Obama administration acknowledged late Tuesday that its transfer of $1.7 billion to Iran earlier this year was made entirely in cash, using non-U.S. currency But robo, a congenital liar from a Canadian online forum, says that Iran never accessed the money. (J/K, this bullet point wasn't from the AP article. I'm not sure if you knew that) Edited February 25 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
xul Posted February 25 Author Report Posted February 25 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Do you have ANY evidence for your (bolded) claim? Or just SPECULATION. Of course it is a speculation since it hasn't happened yet and I'm not James Bond who has the ability to sneak into little Napoleon, little Hitler and litter Churchill's offices to see what they are up to. But I think it is a reasonable speculation from the facts which we have known. Anyway there are few countries which used to use their own taxpayer's money to buy brand new American missiles for Ukraine like Canada. 😜 Quote
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 6 minutes ago, xul said: Of course it is a speculation since it hasn't happened yet and I'm not James Bond who has the ability to sneak into little Napoleon, little Hitler and litter Churchill's offices to see what they are up to. But I think it is a reasonable speculation from the facts which we have known. Anyway there are few countries which used to use their own taxpayer's money to buy brand new American missiles for Ukraine like Canada. 😜 Really? What facts do you have that show EU has confiscated money to buy military hardware at greatly inflated prices? Quote
Aristides Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Ummmmm, Russia So what? Who gets their money back from a proxy war? And since when were reparations a great idea? Thanks for once again proving how gullible and stupid you are. You keep going on with this proxy BS. Russia was the aggressor and they are no one’s proxy. Quote
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: So who do you believe, dummy? Qatar, NPR, or Blinken? OMG, THE COMBO OF THE THREE OF THEM MEANS... nothing 🤣 F'ing dummy. https://apnews.com/united-states-government-fd4113419276444eba1d2a46d5c29752 The Obama administration acknowledged late Tuesday that its transfer of $1.7 billion to Iran earlier this year was made entirely in cash, using non-U.S. currency But robo, a congenital liar from a Canadian online forum, says that Iran never accessed the money. (J/K, this bullet point wasn't from the AP article. I'm not sure if you knew that) You're the lDIOT who believes your article about $1.7B of Iran's frozen assets returned in 2016 is the same money as my article from 2023. LMAO They are completely different. Quote
ironstone Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Russian assets in Europe have been frozen, they haven't been confiscated. They should be used as leverage in peace negotiations. US arms manufacturers are making shit load of money out of this war. US right wingers had a hemorrhage when frozen Iranian assets were returned. No denying that Russia is bad, but Iran is even worse. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
xul Posted February 25 Author Report Posted February 25 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: Really? What facts do you have that show EU has confiscated money to buy military hardware at greatly inflated prices? All military hardware made-by-USA, France, UK, Germany....Canada are at greatly inflated prices. This is why nowadays almost all NATO's wars have become unwinnable. These weapons are so expensive that even a small scaled war will likely become unaffordable to these richest nations in the world if it is lasted more than a few years. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 25 minutes ago, Aristides said: You keep going on with this proxy BS. Russia was the aggressor and they are no one’s proxy. Of course Russia isn't a proxy. Ukraine is America's proxy. Don't they have a dictionary on your internet? 😎 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Aristides Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Of course Russia isn't a proxy. Ukraine is America's proxy. Don't they have a dictionary on your internet? 😎 Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. You would not help any country that was invaded by Russia. Quote
robosmith Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 25 minutes ago, xul said: All military hardware made-by-USA, France, UK, Germany....Canada are at greatly inflated prices. This is why nowadays almost all NATO's wars have become unwinnable. These weapons are so expensive that even a small scaled war will likely become unaffordable to these richest nations in the world if it is lasted more than a few years. Show me the money! If they're ALL "inflated" then that is just the price for high end hardware. AKA not inflated. Have you seen the invoices? If not, you're just guessing. Quote
Deluge Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 2 hours ago, robosmith said: The FACT is, Iran misbehaved and the money which was in a trust was never spent on ANYTHING. Thanks for revealing your IGNORANCE once again. U.S. and Qatar agree to prevent disbursal of recently ... NPR https://www.npr.org › 2023/10/13 › u-s-and-qatar-agre... Oct 13, 2023 — "None of the funds that have now gone to Qatar have actually been spent or accessed in any way by Iran," Secretary of State Antony Blinken told .. It doesn't matter whether the money was spent, comrade. It was stolen from tax payers to sit in a trust fund. Go sell some onions on the corner. Quote
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