robosmith Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Yes Dear... You keep on LYING when you say ^this and keep on posting IGNORANT BULLSHIT. LMAO Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 32 minutes ago, herbie said: That's why they elected him, the thought of a female President scared the living daylights out of them. So they continue to remain 50 years behind the times socially and politically. LOL Republicans have elected female Governors, females to serve in Congress, female to lead the RNC, but yeah sure, we are scared of women. Generaly speaking, we have females in these leadership positions across America. Maybe... we just didn't like Harris. Tell us, when was the last time you Canadians elected a female as PM? Oh yeah, never. I guess you are all scared to death too. Quote
eyeball Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 56 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Toxic misinformation? Like 'Biden's sharp as a tack?' Please, that was just an opinion. By toxic I mean, Ukraine started it, Jewish space lasers cause wildfires, vaccines spread disease, and AGW is a scam. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 (edited) Yeah it's totally insane to expect people with $400 billion to pay taxes when you can hose the kid at Wendys instead. And offering to help you start a business when you should claw yourself up the rocks if Daddy didn't hand it to you is completely unAmerican. Almost as bad as electing someone stupid enough to believe the govt=business mantra of 50 years ago be trusted with fixing the economy that wasn't broken. Edited February 23 by herbie Quote
User Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 1 hour ago, herbie said: Yeah it's totally insane to expect people with $400 billion to pay taxes when you can hose the kid at Wendys instead. And offering to help you start a business when you should claw yourself up the rocks if Daddy didn't hand it to you is completely unAmerican. Almost as bad as electing someone stupid enough to believe the govt=business mantra of 50 years ago be trusted with fixing the economy that wasn't broken. Who are you talking to? People with 400 billion do pay taxes. Perhaps things are different there in Canada, like, do you guy only tax kids at Wendys? 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 20 hours ago, eyeball said: Consistent with President @realDonaldTrump’s instructions, all federal employees will be degraded and assumed to be lazy until proven otherwise. He sure revels in being a miserable old qunt. They can always quit. Quote
eyeball Posted February 23 Report Posted February 23 (edited) 26 minutes ago, User said: Who are you talking to? People with 400 billion do pay taxes. Perhaps things are different there in Canada, like, do you guy only tax kids at Wendys? No it's the same in Canada. The kids working at Wendy's pay a higher tax rate and a far bigger share of their income than Wendy's owners. Like Warren Buffett and his secretary. "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts." Edited February 24 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 10 minutes ago, Deluge said: They can always quit. They probably will and the general quality of life in America will suffer greatly as a result. There's a reason what Trump is doing to your federal government is compared to a Jenga game. And now he's applying the very same approach to the layers of international institutions that have likewise made the world a better place too. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 21 minutes ago, eyeball said: No it's the same in Canada. The kids working at Wendy's pay a higher tax rate and a far bigger share of their income than Wendy's owners. Like Warren Buffett and his secretary. This is just ignorance of Warren Buffet vs the vast majority of other people. They are comparing apples to oranges as his secretary pays more because she is paying payroll taxes for Social Security, Medicaid on top of federal income tax, but even then, Buffet is not earning an income, he is making profit off of his investments. His secretary is also in the top income tax bracket because Buffet was paying her somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 a million dollars a year. Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, User said: This is just ignorance of Warren Buffet vs the vast majority of other people. This is Warren Buffet saying this. In the context of taxes ffs... "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts." Avoiding context the way you do is what's particularly ignorant here. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, eyeball said: This is Warren Buffet saying this. In the context of taxes ffs... "I have never had it so good. … What has happened in recent years, we were told a rising tide would lift all boats, but the rising tide has lifted all yachts." Avoiding context the way you do is what's particularly ignorant here. You complete ignored everything I just said. As usual. Most people do not derive all of their income from investments and pay a secretary almost half a million dollars a year. You are comparing two absurd extremes to one another, when this started out talking about someone at Wendys. Warrent Buffet was not paying his secretary the same amount someone was making at Wendy's flipping burgers. Quote
Deluge Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 29 minutes ago, eyeball said: They probably will and the general quality of life in America will suffer greatly as a result. There's a reason what Trump is doing to your federal government is compared to a Jenga game. And now he's applying the very same approach to the layers of international institutions that have likewise made the world a better place too. I didn't quite get that, comrade: Why, exactly, is Trump playing Jenga with the federal government? Also, how, exactly, are we going to suffer? I mean, the government has gotten so f*cking big, that there's been hardly any room to breathe. So explain how we citizens are going to suffer by getting more room to breathe. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 21 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: I love it. Actually making government workers responsible and accountable is just what we need. This stuff has been so amazing! That's not what's happening here. I mean let's get real, there's millions of federal employees are you seriously suggesting somebody is sitting down reading all of these and somehow based on this email making a decision if this person is valuable or not? Now that would be an insane waste of money This is about fear. He's making people worried about their jobs through uncertainty and threat. He believes that this will make them work harder because they don't know what's expected of them exactly so they better do everything they possibly can to make sure they've done enough. Well it can work in some specific examples I don't find employee motivations for fear to be successful in the long run. Very quickly it turns to creating the illusion of work and making busy rather than actual productivity games. It also tends to promote support for unions and more aggressive Union Behavior. We can have some small positive impact in the short term but long term it creates more problems than it solves. There are more effective approaches to maximizing employee contributions Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, User said: You complete ignored everything I just said. As usual. Most people do not derive all of their income from investments and pay a secretary almost half a million dollars a year. 🙄 Buffet is not earning an income, he is making a profit off of his investments. My time is an investment I profit from and if I could afford it I bet I'd be able to employ my accountants, lobbyists and lawyers to prove it so I could pay less tax too. That's what's really floating the yachts - a wealth protection industry that employs thousands making the world safe for capitalism. 11 minutes ago, User said: You are comparing two absurd extremes to one another, when this started out talking about someone at Wendys. No, I'm comparing the taxes people pay that you're portraying or implying are the same everywhere between these two extremes. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
gatomontes99 Posted February 24 Author Report Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's not what's happening here. I mean let's get real, there's millions of federal employees are you seriously suggesting somebody is sitting down reading all of these and somehow based on this email making a decision if this person is valuable or not? Now that would be an insane waste of money This is about fear. He's making people worried about their jobs through uncertainty and threat. He believes that this will make them work harder because they don't know what's expected of them exactly so they better do everything they possibly can to make sure they've done enough. Well it can work in some specific examples I don't find employee motivations for fear to be successful in the long run. Very quickly it turns to creating the illusion of work and making busy rather than actual productivity games. It also tends to promote support for unions and more aggressive Union Behavior. We can have some small positive impact in the short term but long term it creates more problems than it solves. There are more effective approaches to maximizing employee contributions Or it's a wellness check to see if anyone responds. Plus, AI can analyze all the responses to see who put something worthwhile and who didn't. So feed the returns to a computer and let the results speak for themselves. For now, this is a shake up. Break it then rebuild it better than new. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, Deluge said: I didn't quite get that, comrade: Why, exactly, is Trump playing Jenga with the federal government? Well to be more precise, he's playing Jenga with America by pulling out the institutions that have helped keep it standing tall from underneath. It's shit and corruption running downhill that's fùcking your country up. It's not bubbling up from below. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Deluge Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well to be more precise, he's playing Jenga with America by pulling out the institutions that have helped keep it standing tall from underneath. It's shit and corruption running downhill that's fùcking your country up. It's not bubbling up from below. What institutions have helped keep America standing tall, that Trump's going after? Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, Deluge said: What institutions have helped keep America standing tall, that Trump's going after? Here are all the agencies that Elon Musk and DOGE have been trying to dismantle so far A comprehensive look at DOGE’s firings and layoffs so far Note both these articles say so far. Stay tuned. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 26 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I don't find employee motivations for fear to be successful in the long run. Very quickly it turns to creating the illusion of work and making busy rather than actual productivity games. Except the triumphant chuds who voted for this are under the illusion it's the Deep-state being handed its well deserved pink slip. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 37 minutes ago, eyeball said: My time is an investment No, your time is not an investment in the sense of you risking your money and getting returns on it. 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, I'm comparing the taxes people pay that you're portraying or implying are the same everywhere between these two extremes. No, you are not. You were comparing one of the wealthiest men in the worlds capital gains rates to his rich secretary paying in the highest tax bracket because she is earing more than almost everyone else on the planet a year in salary. 34 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well to be more precise, he's playing Jenga with America by pulling out the institutions that have helped keep it standing tall from underneath. It's shit and corruption running downhill that's fùcking your country up. It's not bubbling up from below. What country are you from? You spend an awful lot of time making ignorant comments about ours. Quote
Nationalist Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Please, that was just an opinion. By toxic I mean, Ukraine started it, Jewish space lasers cause wildfires, vaccines spread disease, and AGW is a scam. You can mean whatever you like. When I think of toxic misinformation I mean "The border is secure...Biden is mentally and physically sharp...Biden did not surrender to the Taliban...and of course this, 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 minute ago, User said: No, your time is not an investment in the sense of you risking your money and getting returns on it. Sure it will be once my wealth protection team convinces the politicians to declare. 3 minutes ago, User said: No, you are not. You were comparing one of the wealthiest men in the worlds capital gains rates to his rich secretary paying in the highest tax bracket because she is earing more than almost everyone else on the planet a year in salary. Only to point out that even billionaires admit they're not paying their share. I note Buffet at least tried to help float his employees boat by paying them more. 7 minutes ago, User said: What country are you from? You spend an awful lot of time making ignorant comments about ours. I'm from your 51st State. I spend a lot more time pointing out how ignorant the other 50 are about the country. Why do you always act surprised when people pay attention to the spectacle you make of yourselves? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You can mean whatever you like. When I think of toxic misinformation I mean "The border is secure...Biden is mentally and physically sharp...Biden did not surrender to the Taliban...and of course this, These are just grievances over opinions you don't share. It's not even close to being like medical misinformation for example that resulted in a COVID death rate that was 2.5 times higher where misinformation was consumed like mothers milk. How many people did your girlfriend here kill? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Only to point out that even billionaires admit they're not paying their share. I note Buffet at least tried to help float his employees boat by paying them more. No, one specifically, who is comparing apples to oranges. You are here pushing this crap in response to a comment about a Wendy's employee. 9 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm from your 51st State. I spend a lot more time pointing out how ignorant the other 50 are about the country. Why do you always act surprised when people pay attention to the spectacle you make of yourselves? No, just pointing out your ignorance here on this subject. Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 30 minutes ago, User said: You are here pushing this crap in response to a comment about a Wendy's employee. That you made in the context of billionaires and taxes. 32 minutes ago, User said: No, just pointing out your ignorance here on this subject. Seriously? You've made it clear you've forgotten what the subject even is. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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