Why you can’t win with MAGA

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I agree with most of what you said before that, but I think it's already serious. 

Calling the PMOC a governor is beyond insulting. 

Yeah I probably phrase that pretty poorly, it's very serious for us and it is serious for many of them but I think for a lot of them they just see it as some sort of weird game or something that will blow over soon and do they really want to get worked up every time trump says something insulting or stupid, because this could be a very long 4 years if they do  

And honestly i think a lot don't realize how much it p*sses us off or how much it'll affect america, i think they think "meh, its' canada they'll forgive us tomorrow once this is over."

but if tariffs start getting very serious, as in 25 percent for everything, and the situation deteriorates further, americans may wake up and realize that the relationship may be permanently damaged and that's not good. 

[eyeball]

21 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Calling the PMOC a governor is beyond insulting. 

Compared to you and so many other Canadians calling him a fascist? It's no wonder Trump feels empowered talking about annexing us.

What would you do if you lived next door to a country where half the country maintained Nazis were over running it?

That's why you people defended Putin when said he needed to invade Ukraine as I recall.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Compared to you and so many other Canadians calling him a fascist? It's no wonder Trump feels empowered talking about annexing us.

What would you do if you lived next door to a country where half the country maintained Nazis were over running it?

That's why you people defended Putin when said he needed to invade Ukraine as I recall.

One is an insult to the man the other is an insult to the office. There's a difference

And we do live next door to a country where half the country maintains Nazis have overrun it

And we live in a country where people like you seem to suggest that a Nazi should run it   

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

And we live in a country where people like you seem to suggest that a Nazi should run it   

And it's got retards like you who believe it.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And it's got retards like you who believe it.

LOL ohhh so clever, so witty    Don't blame me that your despot of a gov't has been shamed and is in the process of being thrown out, that's what happens to nazis and facists who declare emergency acts and run over old women with horses  

 

[eyeball]

57 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL ohhh so clever, so witty    Don't blame me that your despot of a gov't has been shamed and is in the process of being thrown out, that's what happens to nazis and facists who declare emergency acts and run over old women with horses  

Ah, sounds like you have the collaborator narrative down pat that explains Trump is riding to our rescue.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Ah, sounds like you have the collaborator narrative down pat that explains Trump is riding to our rescue.

Don't be silly, I don't think of you as a collaborator. I think of you as the source of the problem along with the others of your ilk who prefer ideology over lives and virtue signaling over results. I do frequently Brian Harper for Trudeau's corruption while insisting that voting is meaningless.

Sorry, you can't blame trump for your own scummy Behavior  

[Matthew]

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Ah, sounds like you have the collaborator narrative down pat

Yup. If you guys were in Poland in the late 30s you know CF would be wetting his tongue to lick some nazi boots.

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, Matthew said:

Yup. If you guys were in Poland in the late 30s you know CF would be wetting his tongue to lick some nazi boots.

You're only daydreaming about that because you would be the Nazis and having people lick your boots gets you excited

[Radiorum]

18 hours ago, User said:

OK, so, the point of discussion was the numbers being made up, not that you think they are being used falsely. 

I discovered some new information (which does not excuse Musk but damns him) and added it to the discussion. You should try it sometimes. It’s called progress.

 

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Musk never said that any of these people were receiving government assistance. The article starts off by saying his numbers are absolutely correct. It then goes on to say but it doesn't prove something he never said.

Honest to god. You have to learn to read and think about what you're reading. It took two seconds to realize your source proves what he said was correct and then it went on to try and disprove something he never claimed. But it is 100% true even according to your article that some or more of these people could be receiving checks and the system wouldn't know.

What a massive misrepresentation of my post.

[Radiorum]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And yet nowhere did he say that all of the people on that list are collecting welfare.

Now you are just being disingenuous 

 

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So this started off with you just being wrong. Then instead of admitting that you've now tried to double down and are into the point where you just lying your ass off to try and recover some validity.

this kind of reply actually proves that I was right - that you would rather "get me" than discuss in good faith

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Must never claimed that the numbers you presented are the numbers of people that are committing fraud.

More disingenuity

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In order to try and win

More proof of what drives you

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

I discovered some new information (which does not excuse Musk but damns him) and added it to the discussion. You should try it sometimes. It’s called progress.

If this was a one off... maybe, but this is what you consistently do, where you make one point, are challenged, ignore that challenge and change the subject. 

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Compared to you and so many other Canadians calling him a fascist? It's no wonder Trump feels empowered talking about annexing us.

What would you do if you lived next door to a country where half the country maintained Nazis were over running it?

That's why you people defended Putin when said he needed to invade Ukraine as I recall.

Trudeau is a fascist.

If he was being hanged tomorrow for treason I'd volunteer to kick the stool out from under him, but Canada still has a PM, just like the US still had a "president" even in the moments when Joe didn't know it. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Radiorum said:

What a massive misrepresentation of my post.

It was 100% accurate and oh look, you're doing that thing again where you know you've lost so you basically just run away and stick your head in the sand instead of coming up with a useful or meaningful answer.

Kid you absolutely screwed this up entirely. You absolutely look like a completely retarded twat. Doubling down on the twat does not make you look better.

Take the loss. Next time do better.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Now you are just being disingenuous 

That's not even remotely disingenuous, he absolutely never even suggested that all of those people were collecting welfare never mind defrauding anyone. Like at all. You 100% made that up.

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this kind of reply actually proves that I was right - that you would rather "get me" than discuss in good faith

And again you lie. I never said anything about getting you. I pointed out that when someone calls you on your absolute bullshit which is what happened here You go on to full line mode and say any stupid thing that pops into your head to try and salvage your ego.

And in reply you went on to lie and say any stupid thing that popped into your head to salvage your ego. Talk about proving me right

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More disingenuity

It is the simple truth. It is 100% factual and accurate and completely disproves your previous statement. There's nothing remotely disingenuous about it. Once again you stick your head in the sand

 

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More proof of what drives you

Cutting a sentence fragment off and posting it out of context shows what drives me?

What were you saying about dishonest debate little boy?

You screwed up so bad that it's almost impossible to believe and now you're so mad at yourself that you wanted to be everyone else's fault.

Musk did not say what you said he said and what he did say was 100% accurate and relevant. Have fun crying yourself to sleep tonight

[Radiorum]

On 2/20/2025 at 3:29 PM, CdnFox said:

Musk did not say what you said he said and what he did say was 100% accurate and relevant.

You are clearly ignorant of Musk

 

On 2/20/2025 at 3:29 PM, CdnFox said:

Have fun crying yourself to sleep tonight

The only thing I cry for is America. 

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Radiorum said:

You are clearly ignorant of Musk

Aww sweetie,  sticking your head in the sand again?

The quotes are there to see, i've provided additional facts and there's your own source. The only one being ignorant here is you

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The only thing I cry for is America. 

And your wittew feewings it would seem  

As you grow up you're going to have to learn to deal with truth that you don't like in a more constructive fashion. Unless you can get a job on the view. 

[Nationalist]

You can't win with MAGA because the mentality and goals are absolutely necessary at this point in time.

The loser in all this fray will be the globalist agenda. Which includes the climate religion and the erasure of borders. 

So you can't win with MAGA, or any other Nationalist movement because humanity needs a correction and we all feel it...we all know it.

Edited February 22, 2025 by Nationalist

[Deluge]

On 2/18/2025 at 1:34 PM, Radiorum said:

You can’t win with MAGA because they don’t care whether they are wrong or right. They have abandoned truth in favour of the fight. All that matters to them is “getting” the other side. (I’ve seen this attitude in these forums.)

That’s why they respond so favourably when Trump posts something hate-inciting like this:

Jul 20th 2024 - 10:12:25 PM EST

Consider Musk’s recent post below

 

 

Musk’s claim that these people are collecting social security is so obviously untrue (to anyone with a grain of intelligence, which I assume Musk has) and easily disproved. Simple math with these figures shows that if these payments in the table were being made, Social Security would cost about $1 trillion dollars more a year than it actually does. The numbers just don’t work.

 

 

 

So why is Musk lying? And not caring if he does? Because he knows MAGA will respond, without regard to whether it’s true or not. Musk baits MAGA, who will use this as ammunition in their manufactured “fight.”

They don’t care if the numbers are wrong - just like they don’t care if Trump is a dictator. The outrage of the “other side” is the goal. (As one MAGA member here said – it’s about freaking them out.)

Like Trump, Musk manipulates with lies, and it causes me great concern for the country that many are susceptible to this manipulation.  

 

No, you just can't beat MAGA. Trump won, not what's her name, and for good reason. Americans are sick of the woke bullshit, and Trump has answered the call. 

You woketards really need to stop crying and join the right side.  

[Radiorum]

8 hours ago, Deluge said:

Americans are sick of the woke bullshit

 

8 hours ago, Deluge said:

You woketards

Yes, this is what Trump used to pull the wool over your eyes.

Can you not see that American democracy, and its pluralistic nature, is threatened if key government positions are filled with loyalists and power is concentrated in the hands of a small group of ideologically aligned individuals?

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Can you not see that American democracy, and its pluralistic nature, is threatened if key government positions are filled with loyalists and power is concentrated in the hands of a small group of ideologically aligned individuals?

Lol pot, meet kettle.    

It is exactly what the democrats have been doing for ages and now there's backlash. The only thing that the republicans have been trying to do up to this point was try to have more control over who gets appointed to many of the judicial positions and even that is fairy recent. The democrats have been stacking ideologically aligned loyalists in every government position they can find, creating brand new government positions to accommodate additional ones and then using that to reach out to other groups like teaching groups and so on and so forth to help them stack their positions.

Where was all of your concern about this threat during those days?  It's far too late to complain about it now

[gatomontes99]

The irony of the whole thread is that he can't argue with MAGA because he doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Yes, this is what Trump used to pull the wool over your eyes.

Can you not see that American democracy, and its pluralistic nature, is threatened if key government positions are filled with loyalists and power is concentrated in the hands of a small group of ideologically aligned individuals?

What I see is a streamlined government for the People. 

What you want is 10 million pronoun users f*cking American banks and citizens. 

The choice is clear, and it's not what you want.  

[User]

15 hours ago, Radiorum said:

Yes, this is what Trump used to pull the wool over your eyes.

Can you not see that American democracy, and its pluralistic nature, is threatened if key government positions are filled with loyalists and power is concentrated in the hands of a small group of ideologically aligned individuals?

Once again... what country are you from?

You have a real lack of understanding for our countries Separation of Powers and Federalism, as well as how the Executive branch functions. 

If you are now proclaiming yourself to be a small government Conservative who wants to see the power of the federal government reduced, OK, lets do it!