America is one step away from falling into fascism. Factually

[taxme]

On 2/18/2025 at 4:17 PM, robosmith said:

I don't have to make FOS LIES look bad, they did that ALL BY THEMSELVES.

Except they did a great job of HIDING IT FROM YOU, cause your sources are SO LIMITED and you buy their EXCUSES. Duh

Well, why don't you tell us some of the things that CNN has said in the past that got them sued? I mean cone on, eh? Let's try and be fair here, eh bozo the 🤡. I am pretty sure that CNN has hidden plenty of libel stories from you. Gawd, were you born stunned or what? WOW. 

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, taxme said:

Fox News has already told me about the corruption and incompetence of Joe BiDumb. He was one of the most disliked and dishonest presidents America ever had. No matter what method BiDumb used, he still is an sob. 👎

Thanks for admitting fair and squared doesn't matter to you; your opposition is based solely on HATE of leaders who look out for the lower economic class.

35 minutes ago, taxme said:

Well, why don't you tell us some of the things that CNN has said in the past that got them sued? I mean cone on, eh? Let's try and be fair here, eh bozo the 🤡. I am pretty sure that CNN has hidden plenty of libel stories from you. Gawd, were you born stunned or what? WOW. 

Nothing CNN reported got them sued for anywhere NEAR $800M PAID. A lot of CNN lawsuits were for extravagant amounts but settled for what they were: NUISANCE LAWSUITS.

[ironstone]

Even Judge Judy(Democrat) defends Trump.

 

[myata]

So justice (in the Magans understanding) can hinge on an opinion, hearsay? Abiding the law is no longer a thing for some at least? Amazing how mental corrosion can spread in just weeks isn't it? Unless they never understood it in the first place.

[Aristides]

Don't know who wrote this but it pretty much sums  Trump up.

Quote

"The first time I heard that Donald Trump wanted to annex Canada, I thought maybe he’d finally decided to flee the country and was just making the paperwork easier. But no—this wasn’t a retirement plan or some late-night Fox News hallucination. He was serious. The man who spent his life bankrupting everything he touched had decided that Canada—polite, frostbitten, maple-drenched Canada—was next on the chopping block. Not for its culture, its people, or its poutine, but for its rocks.

Not just any rocks, of course. Critical minerals. The kind that keep the world turning—lithium, cobalt, nickel—the building blocks of electric cars, missile systems, and whatever dystopian tech they’re cooking up to replace human workers. And Canada, with all its vast, unassuming wilderness, just happens to be sitting on a mountain of them. To Trump, that makes it less of a country and more of a mineral buffet that he has every right to plunder.

So now, like a cartoon villain with a brain injury, Trump has taken to calling Canada the “51st state” and referring to Justin Trudeau as “Governor,” because in his tiny, misshapen view of the world, foreign leaders are just middle managers waiting to be fired. You could practically hear Trudeau’s soul leave his body when he had to address this lunacy. The man already looks like he’s been awake for three years straight, and now he has to deal with a belligerent casino owner threatening to carve up his country like a well-done steak at Mar-a-Lago.

And yet, somehow, Canada isn’t even the biggest victim of Trump’s shakedown diplomacy. That honor belongs to Ukraine. Because while Canada is just being threatened with takeover, Ukraine is getting its legs broken in the alley behind the restaurant—and Trump’s demanding they hand over their wallet while it’s happening.

See, Trump has decided that the United States should no longer just give Ukraine military aid out of some old-fashioned sense of “supporting democracy” or “not letting Russia steamroll an entire nation.” No, no—that’s socialism. Instead, he’s proposing a much more refined system: the War-Time Pawn Shop, where Kyiv trades its natural resources for weapons like a desperate gambler handing over his watch to cover one more hand of blackjack.

Trump’s logic, if you can call it that, is that the U.S. has given Ukraine “close to” $375 billion in aid, and now it’s time for collateral. Because in his mind, every relationship is just another sleazy business deal waiting to be leveraged. If your house is on fire and Trump throws you a bucket of water, don’t be surprised when he demands your kidney in return.

Zelenskyy, who has spent the past few years dealing with a literal war criminal, now has to sit through negotiations with a metaphorical one. And like any man cornered in a room full of lunatics, he’s trying to smile through the madness. “We are open to investment,” he said, which is diplomatic code for “I am saying words so I don’t get shot.”

Meanwhile, the rest of the world is watching this with the exhausted disbelief of a man realizing his plane is being piloted by a chimpanzee in a red tie. Even Germany, a country that rarely reacts to anything stronger than a sternly worded statement, called Trump’s demands “very self-centered.” Which is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer “a little hungry.”

And of course, Vladimir Putin is loving every second of it. You think he’s worried about Trump’s scheme? No—he’s thrilled. The entire Kremlin is probably watching this play out like a reality show, laughing their asses off as Trump does their propaganda work for them. Oh, Ukraine doesn’t even get free aid anymore? Oh, it’s just another American business deal? That’s the exact kind of narrative Russia wants—proof that the West doesn’t actually care about Ukraine, just its resources.

And the scariest part? This won’t stop with Ukraine. If Trump pulls this off, every alliance turns into a transaction. Taiwan better start shipping semiconductors to Mar-a-Lago if they want U.S. protection. NATO might have to Venmo Trump a few billion just to stay relevant. Hell, don’t be surprised if he tries to sell Montana to the Saudis and then claims it was a “terrific deal, the best deal, nobody’s ever seen a deal like this.”

This isn’t foreign policy. This is a mob shake-down. This is Trump flipping through a catalog of world resources and pointing at the ones he wants. This is a corrupt real estate developer treating entire nations like distressed properties.

And the worst part? The world is actually entertaining it.

We’re through the looking glass, folks. Diplomacy is dead, and the Art of the Deal has been replaced with the Art of the Mugging. And the only thing more terrifying than watching Trump shake down the world like a two-bit gangster is realizing that nobody seems willing to stop him. " 

 

[myata]

There's much shorter and older summary of this reality: "the sleep of reason produces monsters". Interestingly, almost to a year the contemporary of the (now former) American constitution (1797).

It was a merry dumb sleep of many too. Many hands made their generous contribution to this fiasco that will now reverberate in generations.

[myata]

The m0ronic crowd came up with another bizarre revelation today: "JD Vance warns US will only be friends with countries that share Donald Trump's values". Please note: not the American (former) constitution; not the values of liberty, democracy and the rule of law. That seems to be in the past, in that crowd's minds.

One can interpret it as either: "Donald Trump" who defines the country's values now is here to stay for a long, long time, confirming the end of the constitutional period. Or else, America's friend list will change with each new administration (the end of credibility and sanity). And so, as of now and right here America is on the threshold of letting go of her sanity, credibility in the sane world and democracy. Tell me please how would it be an exaggeration?

[User]

32 minutes ago, myata said:

The m0ronic crowd came up with another bizarre revelation today: "JD Vance warns US will only be friends with countries that share Donald Trump's values".

It helps if you actually quote what Vance says instead of what biased news outlets label their articles. 

 

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, User said:

It helps if you actually quote what Vance says instead of what biased news outlets label their articles. 

 

I don't think he knows english. I think he's using Google Translate. So I don't think he has access to the actual quote.

[myata]

You have shared values" as we dictate them or you don't have our friendship. You only have our friendship if you understand "shared values" our way. Only a dead brain would get it any other way but what could be the hope for the m- crowd?

Trump's vision for America has no interest is shared values which are defined via a free and equal discussion and dialogue. No, he wants to dictate them on every whim and desire of the master. Today "shared values" mean give us a part of your territory. Tomorrow, we want to own you. That's "shared", right? In what language? Only in that f-d up, corrupt to the core Vlad's, Kim's and now Trump's world.

"So the point that I try to make to our European friends, and I think that they’re our friends, I believe that, I know President Trump does, is that friendship is based on shared values.

You do not have shared values if you’re jailing people for saying we should close down our border.

You don’t have shared values if you cancel election because you don’t like the result, and that happened in Romania.

You don’t have not have shared values if you’re so afraid of your own people, you silence them and shut them up.

So let’s have shared values."

Edited February 23 by myata

[User]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

You have shared values" as we dictate them or you don't have our friendship. You only have our friendship if you understand "shared values" our way. Only a dead brain would get it any other way but what could be the hope for the m- crowd?

Its amazing how when you actually quote what he says, it is not anything that others frame it up as being. 

[myata]

"He who dictates": know that word? Remember it? It's that or that piece of paper you used to pledge to. Can't be both, no dumb naivete here, doesn't exist. Of course you knew.

Edited February 23 by myata

[User]

Just now, myata said:

"He who dictates": know that word? Remember it?

You scream into the void... who are you talking to here? 

[myata]

"Free speech" in magaspeak (compare "1984") means of course free license to pump grotesque and outrageous lies unchecked and without any responsibility. We say so it has to be true. Reality doesn't matter.

This is what corrupted and ruined U.S. democracy and now they insist on toppling it throughout the free world. That's what "friends" do, in magaspeak.

[Venandi]

If it weren't so sad, watching progressive heads explode would be fun.

Incredibly though, there's still no thought being given to answering the one question they really need to be asking themselves... "If you're going to be bat sH%$ crazy, WTF did you think was going to happen?"

Seems to me that even Bill gets it:

 

[Scott75]

On 2/16/2025 at 1:08 AM, myata said:

The implosion has been unfolding lightening fast, unprecedented in history. And the last line is here: if/when he begins to openly defy court orders, with no consequence: the first episode would mark and signify the formal end of American democracy and the rule of law. Yes you made it all the way here, laughing and watching sitcoms under incessant droning of lying propaganda drowning thinking, integrity and morality.

"Where the law ends, tyranny begins". America can travel back in time decades or centuries but she won't discover anything new here.

I was initially dismissive of your claim. However, today Chris Hedges published the following article:

Chris Hedges: The Purge of the Deep State and the Road to Dictatorship | Scheerpost

I'm hoping he's wrong or at least greatly exagerating the danger, but he's a very good writer. Quoting from his introduction:

**

The Trump administration’s war with the deep state is not a purgative. It is not about freeing us from the tyranny of intelligence agencies, militarized police, the largest prison system in the world, predatory corporations or the end of mass surveillance. It will not restore the rule of law to hold the powerful and the wealthy accountable. It will not slash the bloated and unaccountable spending — some $1 trillion dollars — by the Pentagon.

All revolutionary movements, on the left or the right, dismantle the old bureaucratic structures. The fascists in Germany and the Bolsheviks in the Soviet Union, once they seized power, aggressively purged the civil service. They see in these structures, correctly, an enemy that would stymie their absolute grip on power. It is a coup d’état by inches. Now we get our own.

Rearguard battles — as in the early years of the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany — are taking place in the courts and media outlets openly hostile to Trump. There will be, at first, pyrrhic victories — the Bolsheviks and the Nazis were stalled by their own judiciaries and hostile press — but gradually the purges, aided by a bankrupt liberalism that no longer stands or fights for anything, ensures the triumph of the new masters.

The Trump administration has expelled or fired officials who investigate wrongdoing within the federal government, including 17 inspectors general. Federal law enforcement and intelligence agencies, such as the FBI and Homeland Security, are being purged of those deemed hostile to Trump. Courts, as they are stacked with compliant judges, will be mechanisms for the persecution of state “enemies” and protection rackets for the powerful and the rich. The Supreme Court, which has granted Trump legal immunity, has already reached this stage.

“The original purge after the Shah’s fall sought to rid the ministries of senior-level holdovers from the former regime and to provide the revolutionary faithful with jobs,” reads a declassified CIA memo, dated Aug. 28, 1980, on the then newly formed Islamic Republic of Iran. “The second wave of purges began last month after a series of Khomeini speeches. Lower-level individuals who had been part of the Shah’s bureaucracy, those with Western training, or those who were deemed to lack full Revolutionary fervor have been retired or fired on an increasingly large scale.”

We are repeating the steps that led to the consolidation of power by past dictatorships, albeit with our own idiom and idiosyncrasies. Those naively lauding Trump’s hostility towards the deep state — which I concede did tremendous damage to democratic institutions, eviscerated our most cherished liberties, is an unaccountable state within a state and orchestrated a series of disastrous global interventions, including the recent military fiascos in the Middle East and Ukraine — should look closely at what is being proposed to take its place.'

The ultimate target for the Trump administration is not the deep state. The target is the laws, regulations, protocols and rules, and the government civil servants who enforce them, which hinder dictatorial control. Compromise, limited power, checks and balances and accountability are slated to be abolished. Those who believe that the government is designed to serve the common good, rather than the dictates of the ruler, will be forced out. The deep state will be reconstituted to serve the leadership cult. Laws and the rights enshrined in the Constitution will be irrelevant.

**

[Scott75]

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

If it weren't so sad, watching progressive heads explode would be fun.

Incredibly though, there's still no thought being given to answering the one question they really need to be asking themselves... "If you're going to be bat sH%$ crazy, WTF did you think was going to happen?"

Seems to me that even Bill gets it:

 

His last lines were particularly piercing in my view, start at 7:00:

**

I will conclude by saying the reason I'm so mad at the Democrats, is because as a voter, the issues that were important to me were democracy and the environment.

And now, there's no one to champion or defend either of them, because you, with your aggressively anti-common sense agenda and shitty exclusionary attitude, blew it.

You lost everything. House, Senate, White House, Supreme Court, and left us completely unprotected and ready to be violated.

**

[User]

9 hours ago, myata said:

"Free speech" in magaspeak (compare "1984") means of course free license to pump grotesque and outrageous lies unchecked and without any responsibility. We say so it has to be true. Reality doesn't matter.

This is what corrupted and ruined U.S. democracy and now they insist on toppling it throughout the free world. That's what "friends" do, in magaspeak.

You are the one who regularly pushes lies here.

And yeah, guess what, that is part of free speech. 

[myata]

2 hours ago, Scott75 said:

The target is the laws, regulations, protocols and rules, and the government civil servants who enforce them, which hinder dictatorial control.

And that is one of the last remaining obstacles, along with the judicial that still stand on the path to an all-out dictatorship. And none is impregnable. The fate of democracy in the U.S. really and factually hangs on a thin, half-broken thread.

Edited February 24 by myata

[Aristides]

 

[myata]

A short take: there are no innocents and naives, this time around. No credible explanations, nowhere to stretch fingers to. Every single one knew exactly what they were doing. Every single one chose it consciously and freely.

[User]

28 minutes ago, myata said:

A short take: there are no innocents and naives, this time around. No credible explanations, nowhere to stretch fingers to. Every single one knew exactly what they were doing. Every single one chose it consciously and freely.

OK. And?

[taxme]

On 2/21/2025 at 5:37 PM, robosmith said:

Thanks for admitting fair and squared doesn't matter to you; your opposition is based solely on HATE of leaders who look out for the lower economic class.

Nothing CNN reported got them sued for anywhere NEAR $800M PAID. A lot of CNN lawsuits were for extravagant amounts but settled for what they were: NUISANCE LAWSUITS.

Your dear left wing leader Joey BiDumb could not give a shit about the lowly economic class that he always lied to and stole their tax dollars from. BiDumb was the most lying and thieving president America has ever had. Progressives like you are a bunch of lying thieves and crap spreaders. Trump is doing more for the economic class than your dear leader BiDumbhas has ever done for they the people.  

Fox News is still the best source for truth in news. I see that Joy the white hating racist biotch Reid got fired from MSNBC, MSNBC being just another CNN, full of lying lemons and Cuomo imbeciles who got canned for lying too much. They probably were no doubt fired or quit before they get libeled for the many lies that they reported on air every day about Trump.  Still can't get away from the $800 million libel, eh? It's all you really got, eh lefty? Poor little lefty imbecile. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Your dear left wing leader Joey BiDumb could not give a shit about the lowly economic class that he always lied to and stole their tax dollars from. BiDumb was the most lying and thieving president America has ever had. Progressives like you are a bunch of lying thieves and crap spreaders. Trump is doing more for the economic class than your dear leader BiDumbhas has ever done for they the people.  

Fox News is still the best source for truth in news. I see that Joy the white hating racist biotch Reid got fired from MSNBC, MSNBC being just another CNN, full of lying lemons and Cuomo imbeciles who got canned for lying too much. They probably were no doubt fired or quit before they get libeled for the many lies that they reported on air every day about Trump.  Still can't get away from the $800 million libel, eh? It's all you really got, eh lefty? Poor little lefty imbecile. 

It's MUCH MUCH MORE than what you got, which is JUST ^THIS BULLSHIT. But keep on embarrassing YOURSELF, cause NOTHING is all YOU GOT. LMAO

[taxme]

20 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's MUCH MUCH MORE than what you got, which is JUST ^THIS BULLSHIT. But keep on embarrassing YOURSELF, cause NOTHING is all YOU GOT. LMAO

You forgot to add to your reply about the $800 million libel bullshit suit against Fox News. Slipping, are we 🤡?