NAME REMOVED Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 (edited) 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: How so, i mean if your in love with this family please explain to us what this loyalty gave this nation...other than free pot...it's your turn ... You remind me of the one oddball veteran, who is usually found one any given street corner, or homeless shelter, who is convinced that he is "owed" a great life, and brags about carrying an M-16, while others do all they can to avoid him. Most Canadian veterans I respect, but then again, they aren't disgruntled fools, who never advanced much during their service. Edited February 9 by DUI_Offender 1 2 Quote
suds Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 On 2/8/2025 at 3:07 PM, eyeball said: You're expecting the impossible. How can anyone who seeks public office avoid not putting themselves first on their road to power? This dilemma could best be addressed by governing ourselves with citizen's assemblies - where representatives are essentially drafted and vetted like jurors. With no strings attached right from the get go. Political parties should be afforded no more status, importance or influence than a social club. Instead of all this political restructuring (which in itself carries a host of other problems), why not simply demand a 'Canada first' policy by our elected representatives (especially at the federal level)? Or better yet, encourage more Independents to run on Canada first policies? It's just not good enough putting 'Canada first' fighting U.S. tariffs, when it's a policy we should demand be exercised at every turn and have our politicians held accountable. At the very least it should be a question put to every candidate running for office. Those running for office (or voted into office) at the Provincial level should be cut some slack as they are representatives of the the Province where duties to Province and Country may conflict. In their particular case, Province first or Canada first policies would also rise above party politics. Poilievre has some interesting ideas about Canada first policies but he just doesn't go far enough to my liking. Canada first policies should be made an election issue. Quote
herbie Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 22 hours ago, eyeball said: Trudeau probably felt much the same way about that biatch Jody Wilson-Raybould. The gall of the woman. not even relevant to the conversation. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 I've never seen anything like this, since Kim Campbell and the PC Party imploded in 1993. Quote
eyeball Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 3 hours ago, herbie said: not even relevant to the conversation. Why not, we're conversing about Canada's interest aren't we? JWR must have felt what Trudeau wanted for SNC wasn't in Canada's interest. She didn't think his political interference in a criminal prosecution was in Canada's interests. If Trudeau genuinely believed it was he could have said so publicly - transparently IOW. Trudeau apparently doesn't believe transparency is in our interest either. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Oh FFS it was a minor fooferall not a matter of national interest like sovereignty, she was the one that refused to take instruction from above. We're discussing loyalty during a time of actual existential threat here, not everyday political scandals. You have to be nuts to call either Trudeau disloyal to the country. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Trump is the major factor. He can seriously damage Poilievre’s chances if he goes all out against us. In that case, there’ll be support for the Libs right across the political spectrum including from many who haven’t voted in a while and disillusioned Liberal voters who might have sat this one out. Plus Danielle Smith might be a little preoccupied with events closer to home to play at Trump whisperer again. Best case for PP is that this round of tariffs is the last, the whole disgraceful story peters out and he glides in on what’s left of his lead. Has anybody asked Trump about the political effect he is having up here? 3 Quote
eyeball Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, herbie said: Oh FFS it was a minor fooferall not a matter of national interest like sovereignty, It's just another patch of rust, spreading, never sleeping, doing what rust does. 1 hour ago, herbie said: We're discussing loyalty during a time of actual existential threat here, not everyday political scandals. You have to be nuts to call either Trudeau disloyal to the country. He's certainly looks a lot less rusty than Trump, I'll give him that. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Trump is the major factor. He can seriously damage Poilievre’s chances if he goes all out against us. In that case, there’ll be support for the Libs right across the political spectrum including from many who haven’t voted in a while and disillusioned Liberal voters who might have sat this one out. Plus Danielle Smith might be a little preoccupied with events closer to home to play at Trump whisperer again. Best case for PP is that this round of tariffs is the last, the whole disgraceful story peters out and he glides in on what’s left of his lead. Has anybody asked Trump about the political effect he is having up here? Just as I had envisioned. Canadians are seeing PP and the Conservatives are appeasers, and not very patriotic. People can say what they want about Canada "being broken" but it will antagonise most Canadians when they are staring down the threat of Trump, and his weird fixation about making us the 51st state. There are major scandals in regards to Danielle Smith, that could possibly see her doing jail time, especially with contracts with Turkish pharmaceutical companies. Also she has done some very sketchy things in regards to the health care system. Edited February 10 by DUI_Offender Quote
eyeball Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 58 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Best case for PP is that this round of tariffs is the last, the whole disgraceful story peters out and he glides in on what’s left of his lead. I guess you haven't seen the news today. Trump's tripled down on annexation - he's confirmed what Trudeau said it's a real thing and 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium go into effect tomorrow. 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Has anybody asked Trump about the political effect he is having up here? Most Americans appear to be oblivious. I wonder if we can count on Britain? Dougie suggested we buy a couple of nuclear subs from them but I'm wondering if maybe leasing a couple in the short term would get America's attention. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: I wonder if we can count on Britain? Dougie suggested we buy a couple of nuclear subs from them but I'm wondering if maybe leasing a couple in the short term would get America's attention. I would be careful about buying anything that Trump may perceive as a threat to the US. I would increase military spending, but do so in a way it appears from the outside we are living up to our end of the bargain. However, we should really be emphasising Guerrilla war techniques, and combat battle in the Rocky Mountains, and the northern wilderness. I think the best outcome, will be to lay low, and wait. Trump is going to implode the United States, and the Pentagon. their intelligence community will be gutted, and the military, as great as the weapons they possess, will be of limited use, if they have a bunch of inexperienced dolts running things, considering Trump is purging general he believes will be disloyal to him, in favor of inferior leaders who proclaim 100% loyalty to the Trump administration. I keep thinking of how Stalin purged his military, and went to battle Finland, a country they outnumbered 50:1, and still took an absolute bloodbath against the disciplined Finns. A 3 day "special military operation" turned into a 3 1/2 full battle, with 350,000 Russian casualties. Edited February 10 by DUI_Offender Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I guess you haven't seen the news today. Trump's tripled down on annexation - he's confirmed what Trudeau said it's a real thing and 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium go into effect tomorrow. Most Americans appear to be oblivious. I wonder if we can count on Britain? Dougie suggested we buy a couple of nuclear subs from them but I'm wondering if maybe leasing a couple in the short term would get America's attention. They are the tariffs I was referring to. Trying to explain trade deficits to him would be like convincing Emperor Joseph II that Mozart’s works don’t have too many notes. The annexation talk is the same as before and at some point we are going to have to start believing him. PP better hope Trump finds another focus for his ire and just forgets about Canada for a while. Nobody in the West will seek to antagonize this ignorant thug by supporting us. The UK is in enough trouble already with its support of the ICC and other Israel-related matters. Quote
eyeball Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: PP better hope Trump finds another focus for his ire and just forgets about Canada for a while. I suppose, I don't think Canada will forget in time for the next election though and sure as shit nothing will draw Trump's attention back faster than an election in another country where he's the issue. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) The only positive thing Trump has ever done for Canada, is expose PP for the worthless piece of garbage that he is. At this point, I would not be the least surprised If behind the scenes the Conservative Party is in full-fledged panic mode. It may even be beneficial to outright fire Poilievre, and replace him with someone more in touch with the current political situation. This is the worst collapse of any Canadian political party in Canadian history, Edited February 10 by DUI_Offender Quote
Army Guy Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 22 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: You remind me of the one oddball veteran, who is usually found one any given street corner, or homeless shelter, who is convinced that he is "owed" a great life, and brags about carrying an M-16, while others do all they can to avoid him. Most Canadian veterans I respect, but then again, they aren't disgruntled fools, who never advanced much during their service. You remind me of an old karen who really has nothing to do but chirp, about nothing really, a person who has taken advantage of everything this country has to offer and has done absolutely nothing to help benefit this nation, your a taker nothing more , well lets add a chirper as well. Our military veterans have sacrificed so much for this nation physical health as well as mental health and your hero has publicly told a vet we are asking for more than we can give, just before going on the largest expenditure this country has seen in its history.... Don't sit there and tell me you respect vets, when you have shown nothing but disdain for those vets on this very forum..All i've done is told anyone that will listen is our country has not treated its vets with any kind of respect all the vets' want is to be treated like any other Canadian but some how thats is to much for you and other to wrap their tiny minds around... F*ck you and all those that supported your post... Edited February 10 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Don't sit there and tell me you respect vets, I have great respect for veterans. I just do not have any for you. No offence. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Liberals are really closing the gap. PP is the most unlikable leader in Canadian history. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 Sure, you do you....how could you respect anyone , when you don't even respect yourself...your just looking for attention, why in gods good name would you admit to getting a DUI , like you thought that was a cool thing to do....like i said your looking for attention....your a sad little boy pretending to be a grown up.... PS i'm deeply sadden to hear you don't respect me...really it hurts me to no end, i feel bad when i collect my pension check, ...then it all goes away when i read your posts...thanks .... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
NAME REMOVED Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: I AM REALLY ANGRY Settle down, soldier. Maybe talk to a therapist. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: Settle down, soldier. Maybe talk to a therapist. Says the guy who has to make up fake quotes Because he can't argue with the truth. Speaking about respect, Everyone here recognizes you as a drunk loud with no brains and an inability to cope mentally with when he loses an argument. Do you really think anybody cares what you think about them respect-wise? It would be like being highly concerned with a dung beetle thought of you 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Speaking about respect, Everyone here recognises me as a guy who needs a carrot up my ass, as it will prove my loyalty to my Orange God. I have no brains and an inability to cope mentally with when I lose an argument. I really think nobody cares what I think about them, and I have no respect. I will now overdose on NyQuil. Shoving a carrot up your ass, to show dedication to Trump? That is impressive. Disgusting, yet impressive. Edited February 11 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 On 2/9/2025 at 10:01 PM, eyeball said: I guess you haven't seen the news today. Trump's tripled down on annexation - he's confirmed what Trudeau said it's a real thing and 25% tariffs on steel and aluminium go into effect tomorrow. Most Americans appear to be oblivious. I wonder if we can count on Britain? Dougie suggested we buy a couple of nuclear subs from them but I'm wondering if maybe leasing a couple in the short term would get America's attention. No one is going to spend billions on subs for a short term lease. Maybe some old ones that they are retiring. If not the British, maybe the French. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 7 hours ago, Aristides said: No one is going to spend billions on subs for a short term lease. Maybe some old ones that they are retiring. If not the British, maybe the French. Because we did not learn from the last time we bought used Subs... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 14 hours ago, NAME REMOVED said: I use to strip and perform sexual acts for cigarettes and pocket change... Oh i have talked to therapists, put my life back on track......i went from the lowest i've ever been in my life to today able to talk to whackdoodles like yourself, you should try might even make you some what normal again, and take some of your liberal friends with you god know maybe you'll get a group discount... Edited February 11 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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