Scientists call for more research into Covid vaccine side effects after unexplained spike in heart conditions

[CdnFox]

Scientists call for more research into Covid vaccine side effects after unexplained spike in heart conditions | Daily Mail Online

Canadian experts are calling for more research into heart damage linked to Covid vaccines.

They fear the scale of the issue remains 'under-documented' because they say studies have been too narrow and haven't looked at the risk of these injuries months and years after receiving the shot. 

In rare cases, mRNA shots have been shown to cause myocarditis, inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis, inflammation of the sac-like lining surrounding the heart. 

The side effect is rare but exactly how rare is still being debated. A major 2021 study in Israel put the rate at one in 50,000.

They are calling for further research, noting that rates of the heat conditions globally have increased nearly 40 percent since the vaccines were rolled out in 2021 which needed to be explored for public health reasons. 

 

 

The scientists are all antivaxxers who deny the science.  Stupid anti science scientists!!!  Vote liberal! 

Edited January 28 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

LOL i guess moonbox thinks it's funny that he was wrong all this time    I do remember when you tried to argue with me when i posted proof the shot was more dangerous for young men than covid was and you posted your OWN study that said....  the shot was more dangerous for young men than covid was      LOL good times    

As it turns out the shot may well have been even more dangerous than previously believed 

[Moonbox]

I think it's funny how one little reaction was enough to send you spiraling into your boiler-plate tantrum, complete with gratuitous re-imaginings of past debates you clowned yourself in.  🤣👍

[eyeball]

Alberta doctors criticize provincial COVID-19 report as harmful 'anti-science'.

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I wonder when their provincial UFO report is due to come out?

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I think it's funny how one little reaction was enough to send you spiraling into your boiler-plate tantrum, complete with gratuitous re-imaginings of past debates you clowned yourself in.  🤣👍

LOL  oh dear.  Did we get triggered  by our past failures little guy ?   

Simple truth I'm afraid. We actually had that discussion and you actually did provide proof that the original proof that I had provided was accurate   And me laughing at you about it isn't actually a tantrum LOL.  Your reaction is a Little Closer, although I would probably say meltdown is more accurate.

In any case during that exchange we learned that the shot was considerably more dangerous than covid itself and if you got the shot and didn't get covid you were really taking an unnecessary risk. Now it looks like that situation may be even worse.

It says there's been a 40% increase in cardiac issues and they're very worried it's tied to covid shots and vaccines.

Looks like I may have been even more right at the time than we thought. Which is fairly disturbing.

Well it's disturbing to us normal people anyway. I'm sure you will put your fractured ego ahead of this issue  

That wasn't too long for you was it? You didn't get tired reading that and have to take a nap or anything did you?

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It says there's been a 40% increase in cardiac issues and they're very worried it's tied to covid shots and vaccines.

As well as, uh, COVID.

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The researchers wrote: 'Evidence indicates cardiovascular disease risk in those who previously had COVID-19 is substantial.' 

They called for increased research on the subject with more long-term criteria for diagnosing postvaccine myocarditis.

The experts wrote: 'Patients with postvaccine myocarditis may face cardiovascular outcomes influenced by both COVID-19 and vaccine-related myocarditis, complicating management and underscoring the need for further studies.'

Anyway, no idea what the gotcha here is, myocarditis post vaxx has long been known to be a risk and more research is never a bad thing.

Edited January 29 by Black Dog

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

As well as, uh, COVID.

 

Which the doctors are saying isn't accounting for it.

Why do you on the left always refuse to follow the science?

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Anyway, no idea what the gotcha here is, myocarditis post vaxx has long been known to be a risk and more research is never a bad thing.

There's really no gotcha. Well there was for moonbox a little bit because we got to relive one of his more stupid moments in the past but that's not really a gotcha

As you say the dangers of the vaccine were already known, this is news that it might be worse than we previously believed and that more research is necessary.

That's not a gotcha that's just an interesting point for discussion and ties into the concerns many have shared about trusting untested medical technology out of hand. We probably should not have forced people to take the vaccine as much as we did and it's worth having that discussion for the next time we face that particular circumstance. But it's just a discussion there's no gotcha

[Black Dog]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Which the doctors are saying isn't accounting for it.

I don't know for sure if that's what they're saying but the Daily Mail is a piece of shit source that doesn't actually have a link to the piece they're quoting from which is a letter to the editors of JAMA.

[eyeball]

From the OP article

The side effect is rare but exactly how rare is still being debated. A major 2021 study in Israel put the rate at one in 50,000.

And about 150 out of every 100,000 people who get COVID develop myocarditis or pericarditis.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

From the OP article

The side effect is rare but exactly how rare is still being debated. A major 2021 study in Israel put the rate at one in 50,000.

And about 150 out of every 100,000 people who get COVID develop myocarditis or pericarditis.

Uhhh  one in 50,000 is a lot higher than 1 in 150 thousand. 

I know. Math is hard for you. 

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Uhhh  one in 50,000 is a lot higher than 1 in 150 thousand. 

I know. Math is hard for you. 

It can be caused by flu and common colds too...the point being it's not as uncommon as you think and you can bet the vast VAST majority of doctors and experts will tell you to keep getting your COVID jabs.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

It can be caused by flu and common colds too..

But this time it seems to be caused by the covid shots according to the experts.

It's amazing how fast you on the left throw science in the garbage bin as soon as it says something you don't like.

 

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the point being it's not as uncommon as you think and you can bet the vast VAST majority of doctors and experts will tell you to keep getting your COVID jabs.

There are literally medical experts right now saying that the problem is the covid shot And insisting that more research be done to assess the risk

Once again, science goes in the garbage the moment the left doesn't like what it says

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But this time it seems to be caused by the covid shots according to the experts.

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Did you know you can get COVID just from standing beside a vaccinated person? Apparently we shed vaccine cooties. Go ask Goddess if you don't believe me.  

[herbie]

Of course being already decided on such matters, sitting on your duff stuffing your face under lockdown couldn't possibly have anything to do with it. We know you spent all that time jogging with your mask on or working out on your Pelotron.

Couldn't be inflation causing you obsess the last few over not being able to afford $19,99 Big Mac meal deals either.
Or any oter factor like an aging demographic. Nah! Had to be the vax.

Edited January 30 by herbie

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, eyeball said:

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Did you know you can get COVID just from standing beside a vaccinated person? Apparently we shed vaccine cooties. Go ask Goddess if you don't believe me.  

I believe that's your signature way of admitting you were wrong but that you're angry enough about it that as a defense you try to pass it off as some sort of bad attempt at humour  

Yes, you were wrong again and you were wrong because you decided to follow your hatred and bigotry and ideology instead of facts. Which is exactly why people are abandoning the left these days and probably will for at least a generation. 

But hey, if we pretend to laugh about it maybe the truth won't sting so much right big guy?  

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Of course being already decided on such matters, sitting on your duff stuffing your face under lockdown couldn't possibly have anything to do with it.

The experts say no.  They're looking at the covid shot. 

As eyeball noted it was already established that the covid shot caused this problem. they're now saying it could be worse than previously expected and this needs to be investigated so that we know how bad it is. It may be far worse than we thought. 

Why are you ignoring the experts?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As eyeball noted it was already established that the covid shot caused this problem.

Sure kid, even you can't believe your own shit.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I believe that's your signature way of admitting you were wrong.

LMAO

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Sure kid, even you can't believe your own shit.

 

I was quoting you. So I guess what you're really saying is you can't believe YOUR own shit   LOLOLOL

It's always fun watching you have these little meltdowns where you realize you're wrong and start lashing out without thinking   

 

 

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4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I believe that's your signature way of admitting you were wrong.

 

Yep, as we just seen I'm right   You say something stupid, you get it pointed out, you get angry and then you start making stupid posts

[Moonbox]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I was quoting you. So I guess what you're really saying is you can't believe YOUR own shit   LOLOLOL

No you weren't:

Reading is hard for you, apparently.  

Let's see if you can spot the difference.  🤡

[Aristides]

No problem with more research into it, as long as it is real research. 

[Moonbox]

Don't worry, rag tabloids like the Daily Mail have got it covered.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

No you weren't:

Whoops you're right,  i was quoting blackdog.  He said "myocarditis post vaxx has long been known to be a risk "     Mistook him for Eyeball. Sometimes you lefties all kind of blur to me  
 

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Reading is hard for you, apparently.  

Let's see if you can spot the difference.  🤡

 

What?!? What the hell is that,  that's not even what we were talking about, that was something completely different.  I was referencing the statement that this medical situation was already acknowledged, my only error was attributing it to Eyeball instead of Black dog 

ROFLMAO!!! OH MY GOD YOU QUOTED THE WRONG THING ENTIRELY   LOLOLOL!!!!!

Holy shit kid,  even when you're right  you somehow find a way to be wrong   LOL!  That's Classic Moonbox right there!

[Moonbox]

This isn't going for you the way you're trying to convince yourself it is.  Once again you've clowned yourself, and the only response you have is your automated spaz-out.  🤡

 

[CdnFox]

Just now, Moonbox said:

This isn't going for you the way you're trying to convince yourself it is. 

Talking to that mirror of yours again i see  

For 2 years you've chased me around losing argument after argument desperate as hell to try to SOMEhow catch  me out in an error or the like and FINALLY! FINALLY i make a small mistake you can point to and cry "AHA!" and you screwed it up       i think that's one of the saddest things i've seen in ages   And i watched Harris's speeches.

Whenever you start to lose we see the same things. You will begin by calling a normal response a spaz out because you're spazzing out and you are projecting that on to others.

You then usually start claiming that a particular word or another doesn't mean what everybody knows that particular word or other does mean.  You'll try to focus the argument on that to cover up your failures

when that fails you go from semi melt down to full on melt down and suddenly your stupidity will be the fault of my post count or how long my posts are  LOLOLOL

Then you just go nuts and follow me around for weeks trying to take cheap shots wherever you can and looking stupid. 

 

This is going EXACTLY as i think it is and always does   I'll fetch some popcorn, you carry on. 

That wasn't too long for you was it?

[Moonbox]

The irony of a fragile man-child insisting people take him seriously via useless, longwinded tantrum-rants nobody reads...it's beautiful.  🤣👌

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

The irony of a fragile man-child insisting people take him seriously via useless, longwinded tantrum-rants nobody reads...it's beautiful.  🤣👌

The hilarity of a broken man crybabing that opposed that would take an average grade school student less than 15 seconds to read is just too long for him is freaking awesome  

And I see you're well into the semi meltdown mode exactly as predicted  

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

No problem with more research into it, as long as it is real research. 

Well that seems to be what the experts are calling for. Honestly I have no idea why the concept is driving moon box and eyeball insane like this, I think most people would say that given that there are new concerns additional research by professionals is probably a pretty good idea